I think it's actually a fairly good album overall. Certainly better as a whole piece than ARTPOP anyway.

There was a time I listened to it a lot, even more than her other work, but now there's been a bit of a break... since our last listening party I think? Time to revisit!

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I've been listening to this today and it's a cute listen. My issue with it is that even the very best moments of the album (Diamond Heart et al), don't really compare to the highs of her career as a whole. But then as a complete listen through it's nice, it's just without those huge highlights.

 

And of course it features some of her very worst too~ Come to Mama and Just Another Day :puke:

Cooome to Mamaaaaa

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A stan account!

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A stan account!

Cool but where were they when the song needed them? I hate fake love.

I've been listening to this today and it's a cute listen. My issue with it is that even the very best moments of the album (Diamond Heart et al), don't really compare to the highs of her career as a whole. But then as a complete listen through it's nice, it's just without those huge highlights.

 

And of course it features some of her very worst too~ Come to Mama and Just Another Day :puke:

 

Your description of Joanne is how I feel about the ARTPOP era :lol:

 

Joanne is so much better than that at least for me. I like this album vocally and it contains so many nice moments too Coachella, Superbowl we’re connected to this era :wub:

 

I think there was more that should’ve been pushed from the album single wise for sure but as an album I think it’s a special listen.

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I bought it the day it came out. Obviously it was very different compared to what had come before - The Fame/Fame Monster/BTW/ARTPOP but it's still a good album and one that I warmed to over time.

 

I can't believe it's been 5 years already.

Your description of Joanne is how I feel about the ARTPOP era :lol:

 

Joanne is so much better than that at least for me. I like this album vocally and it contains so many nice moments too Coachella, Superbowl we’re connected to this era :wub:

 

I think there was more that should’ve been pushed from the album single wise for sure but as an album I think it’s a special listen.

Coachella and Superbowl and the TOUR (which was leagues ahead of the artRAVE) do help this era to be remembered a lot more fondly than ARTPOP's. I think I return to the latter album more but I do have a soft spot for this album and the era that came with it.

She should have sold polaroids with photos from the album's photoshoot along with a special edition of the album. I know Taylor has done this before but Joanne has an aesthetic that goes really well with polaroids.

I hope she prepares a 10th anniversary edition of the album with polaroids, posters and other goodies.

Also, the biggest pop albums in history have one thing in common: their aesthetic stays true to the initial purpose from the beginning to the end of the era. Gaga kicked off the Joanne era with a song that is totally off the record visually and soundly. The album was successful but didn't get the warm reception it should have had, and it wasn't the audience's fault but Gaga and her team's fault. If she had started the era with A-YO or Diamond Heart, keeping the era's aesthetic in the upcoming singles and investing a bigger budget in videos and playlists, the fate of this album would have been different.

In theory that could be the case, but in practice I can't see it. She needed the Super Bowl to make Million Reasons a hit even though she performed it and A-Yo several times in late 2016. Radio didn't liked either of them.

 

The critics liked Joanne from the start, it was the phase of her career that hurted the commercial response to an extent. It is still a platinum album so could've been way worse.

Edited October 27, 20213 yr by Sour Candy

In the era of streaming, radio only plays what is emerging on streaming platforms. We’re no longer in 2010, performances at awards shows only impacted iTunes and by 2016/2017 this platform was already outdated and with little impact on the charts. Gaga's label and team hadn't adapted to the streaming era like Bruno, Rihanna, Weeknd, Ariana, Bieber and Sheeran's record labels and staff did. They wasted time and money investing where it wouldn't bring results for the album and its singles on the charts. Joanne has had little or no investment at all on streaming platforms and this is suicide in the streaming era.

 

Thankfully, it seems, since ASIB they finally understood, however nasty, that the label's budget for the album and its singles should be put on streaming platforms via playlists. Now all that's left is for them to wake up and start focusing on the radio because she needs them on her side for her longevity on the charts, beyond just high peaks and then just drastic dips.

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The Dive Bar Tour never forget

There was still 1 show to be done, she postponed it and to this day she still hasn't rescheduled the show. Gaga being Gaga. :hithead:

Imgine Dive Bar Tour returning for one night only :cheeseblock:

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