Azerbaijan came 14TH on the televote in the semi final! :o

 

I could, and shall, be looking at these stats all day. :wub:

The Azeri entry was piss weak, they've never sent anything as bad before. It really should have fallen in the semi.

Drip Drop is the best thing they've EVER sent.

'Drip Drop' is the only Azerbaijan song I've liked in the years I've watched Eurovision (2009-present), very happy that they failed this time as they've been consistently one of the worst countries and yet one of the most successful.

LOL at Malta being fifth with juries and 25th with televoting.

I wouldn't be averse to scrapping the big 5 actually. I think having 12 qualifiers from each semi would be fine, Molly would have qualified out of it anyway by the looks of it. And the semi exposure would definitely be worth it, especially as the UK keep sending growers to the contest and not instant songs.

 

It's only stuff like Josh Dubovie and Engelbert which wouldn't have qualified at all for us, and it would have hardly been a sad loss.

 

Maybe failing to qualify a couple of times and qualifying other times would give the UK some perspective.

Yep I think I agree that the big 5 should be dropped and also think no jury should be used. Bring back live music too.

But I doubt the bbc want to risk losing 10.5 million viewers - they wouldn't let the big 5 go without a fight haha

I was sure about juries and Greek song. It seems that viewers/voters always like Greek songs but the juries didn't vote them. I think that the same happens about politics to my country. European people like Greece as a country but European politics seems to hate us because they never support us with the problems that we have with our neighbours as well (Probably personal advantages). Besides, history can support this and I don't mean the last years (financial problems)..

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LOL at Malta being fifth with juries and 25th with televoting.

 

I mean it IS horrifically worthy, but very surprised it didn't at least come top 15/20 on televotes. Very PLEASED, however.

Apparently Georgia's jury votes were declared invalid as all 5 had the exact same top 10.

 

The juries in Azerbaijan and Belarus (possibly amongst others) didn't have exactly the same positions for each country, but for every country all five jurors only had variations of a couple of positions for each which surely suggests that their votes had been pre-decided or definitely wasn't independent. Therefore, they should've been declared invalid too as that level of coincidence is just impossible.

The juries in Azerbaijan and Belarus (possibly amongst others) didn't have exactly the same positions for each country, but for every country all five jurors only had variations of a couple of positions for each which surely suggests that their votes had been pre-decided or definitely wasn't independent. Therefore, they should've been declared invalid too as that level of coincidence is just impossible.

 

Montenegro definitely had that as well, very perculiar.

Those jury ranks in Armenia, Azerbaijan and Belarus look incredibly fishy. There's not much you can do if every jury member pretends to have nearly the same personal taste but the corruption that's clearly rife throughout those countries is saddening. I hope that as they're made public the EBU feels pressured to do something about that. No collusion between the jurors perhaps, although I have no idea how one would even begin to go about policing that.

So the countries that came last on the Armenian jury vote happened to be the other favourites. They had Austria, Sweden, Hungary, UK and Ukraine as their bottom 5 (I'm excluding Azerbaijan as every juror put them last and probably would have to), interesting votes tho, eh?

On French TV last night there was a huge TV special/debate about the contest - It really wouldn't surprise me if 1 of the Big 5 pulled out soon - France and the UK are struggling year after year.

To be honest the French haven't sent a song that sounded like a hit since I started watching the contest. Much as I enjoyed stuff like 'Echo' and 'L'enfer et moi', they were never going go to do well and even the French all hated their entry this year. And they were top 10 in 2009, regardless. They just need the right song and they're sorted.

Those jury ranks in Armenia, Azerbaijan and Belarus look incredibly fishy. There's not much you can do if every jury member pretends to have nearly the same personal taste but the corruption that's clearly rife throughout those countries is saddening. I hope that as they're made public the EBU feels pressured to do something about that. No collusion between the jurors perhaps, although I have no idea how one would even begin to go about policing that.

 

A good argument for not having juries. Even though on the whole they mark down cheesey entries and mark up the better ones, music should be democratic. If people want to vote for Poland it should be reflected, even if poor Molly would have done worse :o

I think having juries is mostly a good thing as it has seen the quality of entries increase compared to those before 2009 and a large decrease in 'novelty entries'. It's just a shame that a small minority of the juries don't seem to be acting fairly but I'd still rather have the juries than not have them I think.

I'm nowhere near a Eurovision expert but, to me, the quality has drastically improved since the introduction of juries. Regarding novelty entries, it enables only the best to get through - ie the Russian grannies! It's only a handful of juries that aren't fair, Azerbaijan is ridiculous. The UK weren't exactly voting mainly for Poland's song now were they? If they had, they would be riding high on iTunes right now.

I feel like the juries unfairly dubbed Poland a novelty song, it's really not! It's a great song and was like nothing else in the contest this year.

Out of curiosity, does a song being tagged a "novelty" get penalised heavily by the juries? If I recall, Buranovskiye Babushki who represented Russia in 2012 were a novelty act but yet came second with 259 points so perhaps not all novelty songs/acts gets penalised..? :unsure:

Out of curiosity, does a song being tagged a "novelty" get penalised heavily by the juries? If I recall, Buranovskiye Babushki who represented Russia in 2012 were a novelty act but yet came second with 259 points so perhaps not all novelty songs/acts gets penalised..? :unsure:

 

The juries massively marked it down, on televoting alone the grannies were actually only a few points behind Loreen!