Hmmm

Halloween

Poltergiest

SAW 1 & 2

The Others (more thriller but ho hum)

The Omen(Orginal)

Exorcist

American Physco

Scream

Childs Play, love all the Chucky films :cheer:

has anyone mentioned the descent yet? but the british version not the usa version as that has the ending cut.

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/The_Descent_film.jpg

I really enjoyed "new nightmare" up untill a point. I didn't mind the slower paceing, it was very suspensfull - then the end was pathetic. Never have I seen such an anticlimatic ending before (well I have really).

 

I would have to admit I kind of wondered if the ending was taken from a different film entirely.... Everything up until that point had been set in the real, physical world and had a sense of reality about it, albeit rather off-kilter (but that's cool, I like films with an off-kilter sense of reality, like David Lynch's stuff or "Donnie Darko"..) and you sort of wonder if it's all just happening in the character's mind, then all of a sudden, it's off to a pretty ropey-looking CGI Hell, and all the ambiguity the film builds up so well is just shot to sh!t and subtlelty thrown totally out the window...

I liked the concept of where they were at the end. That "freddy" was this ancient thing and that was his sort of relm - instead of the freddy charactors boiler room. But yes, all realism and pace went out the window. The ending was a mismatch to the movie. Worst film ending since Poltergeist 3

Worst film ending since Poltergeist 3

 

 

Ohhhh, dear, dont get me started on that one mate..... Truly abysmal film....

true but the ending used in the actual film is a re-shoot ending featuring a body double of the young girl Heather. the director claims this was not a re-shoot but the only ending filmed. he insists heather died before they could shoot the ending. YET everybody else involved in the film says this is bull and that a much bigger ending was shot with Heather in it. publicity stills, production dates and all sorts prove this. yet the director still to this day lies.

 

if you are interested? visit: http://www.poltergeistiii.com

 

This "myserty" ending has gotten allot of attention over the years. I would love to see it. and would love to know why the director is a big liar.

Edited October 11, 200618 yr by Ozmead

true but the ending used in the actual film is a re-shoot ending featuring a body double of the young girl Heather. the director claims this was not a re-shoot but the only ending filmed. he insists heather died before they could shoot the ending. YET everybody else involved in the film says this is bull and that a much bigger ending was shot with Heather in it. publicity stills, production dates and all sorts prove this. yet the director still to this day lies.

 

if you are interested? visit: http://www.poltergeistiii.com

 

This "myserty" ending has gotten allot of attention over the years. I would love to see it. and would love to know why the director is a big liar.

 

Hmmm, interesting. I've heard all sorts of bizarre rumours surrounding this film over the years, and yes it's true that there is very serious doubt over Gary Sherman's honesty in how he dealt with things. I cant even begin to guess as to his motives over lying about something that is so obviously a fact... I'd like to see this 'original' ending too, because the one they went with was profoundly unsatisfying.... Mind you, I dunno if I'd want to sit through the rest of the film again though.... :lol:

 

Nightmare On Elm Street watched it when i as about 10 and couldn't sleep for days :( closely followed by The Shining great film!

I think that the best Elm Street sequels are 4 & 3. I actually kinda prefer Dream Master to the original...it really is better. Of course, having a huge crush on Tuesday Knight (and Brooke Theiss) did help. Also, the music is good, The Divinyl's, Dramarama, Go West, Sinead O'Connor, and, of course, Tuesday Knight's opening theme are all good ones. I think that there are a whole buch of horror sequels better than the originals. Aliens is one of the really obvious ones, but I did also prefer Friday the 13th 4 to the original and there are some other ones also.

 

Also Texas Chainsaw Massacre remake was miles better than the original (I have to quote my sister who when watching the original said she had to turn off the sound since half of the film was just this chick running around and screaming - boring and way too loud)

 

By the way, anyone seen My Little Eye? Starts of slowly but eventually ends up being quite good one. And the other day I watched again the Argento classic Deep Red and that reminded me how good the Italian horror were back in the day. A whole bunch of Argento flicks, Demons, Stage Fright and so on. Hopefully the final chapter of the Argento's three mother's trilogy will give new lift for the Italian horror film genre.

 

By the way, anyone seen My Little Eye? Starts of slowly but eventually ends up being quite good one. And the other day I watched again the Argento classic Deep Red and that reminded me how good the Italian horror were back in the day. A whole bunch of Argento flicks, Demons, Stage Fright and so on. Hopefully the final chapter of the Argento's three mother's trilogy will give new lift for the Italian horror film genre.

 

 

I honestly dont know how someone who is such a fan of Dario Argento (therefore someone who clearly understands the genre..) could possibly say that the TCM remake is better than the original, but well, never mind..... -_- The whole point of the 'annoying sound' was that the girl was making the sort of sound that the animals made just before they were slaughtered, the sound of a slaughterhouse is deafening and terrifying, so the sound effects were done "annoying" on purpose to put that across... Your sister clearly didn't get that aspect at all, and, frankly it's pretty damned important to an overall understanding of the film itself.... The family in TCM were all former slaughterhouse workers who had basically been rendered redundant by modern technology and modern society and therefore decided to slaughter humans and cannibalise them... A very important factor that the remake just TOTALLY ignores, thus robbing the family of their actual reason for killing....

 

And, by the way, Argento only produced and wrote "Demons", it was Lamberto Bava who actually directed it... "Stage Fright" isn't an Argento film either, it was written and directed by Michele Soavi (who was himself an Argento prodigy for sure, but still....). I know that we all like to think of Argento as the one-man Italian Horror Machine, such is his influence, but the guy can't do ALL the horror films Italy ever made.... :lol:

 

Apparently, the third of the "Three Mothers" films is in production....

 

In the meantime, here's a few more Italian horror maestros for you to check out.....

 

Lamberto Bava, Michele Soavi, Lucio Fulci, Umberto Lenzi, Ruggero Deodato, Antonio Margheriti (aka 'Anthony Dawson'), Antonio Bido, Pupi Avati, Mario Bava....

 

Some of my favourite, more obscure Italian Giallo films.....

 

What Have You Done To Solange, The Leech Conducts the Dance, Cat in the Brain, Curse of the Scorpions Tail, Torso, Hatchet for a Honeymoon, Don't Torture a Duckling, The Cat's Victims, Bloodstained Shadow, Bay of Blood, Blood and Black Lace, Mask of Satan, Black Sabbath, House on the Edge of the Park, Ghosthouse, House of Clocks, Five Dolls for an August Moon, Lisa and the Devil, House of the Laughing Windows, Dellamorte Delamore

(evident very clearly in Romero's commentary on the Consumerist Society in "Dawn of the Dead")

Which version is that on? the one i've got has commentary from Tom Savini and some other guy, not Romero.

 

Have yu heard plans for aq remake of Day Of The Dead? it's most likely going to be shockingly poor compared to the original. -_- :(

 

will the new one out be even more naff?

[flash=450,350]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgOraHnBgDE.swf

yes it will, it just looks like a repeat of the remake <_< not only that but they have the nerve to us the sound effect from the original in that trailer <_< it looks TERRIBLE!

Which version is that on? the one i've got has commentary from Tom Savini and some other guy, not Romero.

 

 

Nah, not 'commentary' as in 'director's commentary'; I'm referring to the themes within the film itself... You know with all the zombies wandering around the Mall not really knowing why, but they just do it anyway... Bit like most Mall Rats that I've ever seen.... :lol: :lol:

 

I honestly dont know how someone who is such a fan of Dario Argento (therefore someone who clearly understands the genre..) could possibly say that the TCM remake is better than the original, but well, never mind..... -_- The whole point of the 'annoying sound' was that the girl was making the sort of sound that the animals made just before they were slaughtered, the sound of a slaughterhouse is deafening and terrifying, so the sound effects were done "annoying" on purpose to put that across... Your sister clearly didn't get that aspect at all, and, frankly it's pretty damned important to an overall understanding of the film itself.... The family in TCM were all former slaughterhouse workers who had basically been rendered redundant by modern technology and modern society and therefore decided to slaughter humans and cannibalise them... A very important factor that the remake just TOTALLY ignores, thus robbing the family of their actual reason for killing....

 

And, by the way, Argento only produced and wrote "Demons", it was Lamberto Bava who actually directed it... "Stage Fright" isn't an Argento film either, it was written and directed by Michele Soavi (who was himself an Argento prodigy for sure, but still....). I know that we all like to think of Argento as the one-man Italian Horror Machine, such is his influence, but the guy can't do ALL the horror films Italy ever made.... :lol:

 

Apparently, the third of the "Three Mothers" films is in production....

 

In the meantime, here's a few more Italian horror maestros for you to check out.....

 

Lamberto Bava, Michele Soavi, Lucio Fulci, Umberto Lenzi, Ruggero Deodato, Antonio Margheriti (aka 'Anthony Dawson'), Antonio Bido, Pupi Avati, Mario Bava....

 

Some of my favourite, more obscure Italian Giallo films.....

 

What Have You Done To Solange, The Leech Conducts the Dance, Cat in the Brain, Curse of the Scorpions Tail, Torso, Hatchet for a Honeymoon, Don't Torture a Duckling, The Cat's Victims, Bloodstained Shadow, Bay of Blood, Blood and Black Lace, Mask of Satan, Black Sabbath, House on the Edge of the Park, Ghosthouse, House of Clocks, Five Dolls for an August Moon, Lisa and the Devil, House of the Laughing Windows, Dellamorte Delamore

 

 

 

Nah dude, you misread me (or maybe I wasn't clear enough :-) ), but anyway, as a Italian horror fan I certainly know which film is Argento's and which isn't. What I meant saying was that there are great films as several Argento films and other films such as Demoni etc. From your favourite list above some of the flicks are a little too out of date for me but I still think films such as Don't Torture The Duckling are quite good even thou the special effects look soooo fake (and it is a seriously made flick as far as I know and not a Scary Movie prequel).

 

And for the original TCM, the running around and screaming was taking just too long. Just like a Friday the 13th flick where you would have all other teens killed during the first 30 mins and then have the virginal heroine running around for the remaining 50 mins. That just doen's work for me.

Nightmare On Elm Street 1 and 3 are classic!! just the idea that when you sleep you have a bad dream and if you die in your dream you die in real life is so so clever and terrorfrying :o i love nancy too alot :wub: and the journey she goes on

From your favourite list above some of the flicks are a little too out of date for me but I still think films such as Don't Torture The Duckling are quite good even thou the special effects look soooo fake (and it is a seriously made flick as far as I know and not a Scary Movie prequel).

 

 

Well, most are from the 70s, the same era as "Deep Red" and most are proto-"Slasher" films, only with better plots.... :lol: As for the effects, well, of course they're a bit naff, what do you want...? The Italian film industry doesn't exactly have the resources of Hollywood.....

 

Just like a Friday the 13th flick where you would have all other teens killed during the first 30 mins and then have the virginal heroine running around for the remaining 50 mins. That just doen's work for me.

 

Huh?? Well I dont really see your logic, that's pretty much what happens in the TCM remake..... :huh: How is it any different.....?

 

Scream me thinks :D or Halloween

Huh?? Well I dont really see your logic, that's pretty much what happens in the TCM remake..... :huh: How is it any different.....?

Well, yea...quite good point but at least she wasn't as annoyingly loud in the remake. And she seemed to be more determined IMO. In the original it seems that she is like a total moron running in circles and screaming. At least in the sequel she doesn't scream that much (and it kinda feels logical...a killer chasing you, what do you do in the middle of nowhere...scream as loud as you can to make sure you will be found or just run quietly...).

 

 

Well, yea...quite good point but at least she wasn't as annoyingly loud in the remake. And she seemed to be more determined IMO. In the original it seems that she is like a total moron running in circles and screaming. At least in the sequel she doesn't scream that much (and it kinda feels logical...a killer chasing you, what do you do in the middle of nowhere...scream as loud as you can to make sure you will be found or just run quietly...).

 

I think I kinda explained the reason the film-makers had behind the screaming in the original... Sorry, but you will never convince me that any remake can improve, or even match up to, an original (even "The Hills Have Eyes, which is the one remake I do actually rate, has its flaws - namely the OTT prosthetics on the 'mutants'...)... The original is where the creator and their collaborators (in this case Tobe Hooper and his team) form the ideas and concepts, there's a certain amount of creativity involved, and the film-making process itself had an edginess and roughness about it, it resembles a home movie in many respects, there's a 'realism' and an honesty to a low-budget film that some glossy big-budget remake will never ever have.

 

The remake was made purely for reasons of commercialism and not creativity.... And when you take into account that Michael Bay is involved as well, who is hardly a producer/director on first-name terms with the words 'realism', 'creativity' or 'edginess' judging by his frankly awful, trashy cinematic input.....

 

Several remakes do improve the original. The original Hills is actually quite dull and even thou there are too many survivors in the sequel it still beats the original every way. The Grudge remake is better in some ways also...while the original has the violence, the pg-13 rated American remake does have more atmospehere. Dawn of the Dead is a bit harder one. Both versions are very good IMO but because of different things. I like the social commentary from the original but then the remake is better for tons of good straight horror action. And with Ringu there is no competition, the original is such a borefest. But most of the time the original is better, for example, The Fog remake from last year was quite abyssmal even thou the original isn't all that great neither.