legendary early 80's indie... thats REAL indie, group are releasing a 'greatest hits of', id highly recomend you young buggers BUYING it. these are the real mccoy, one of the bands who help create the genre that is currently being copied by todays bands...

I heartily agree with this, in particular fans of Coldplay, The Automatic, Editors or Snow Patrol need to hear this excellent updated 'Best Of...' from this legendary Liverpool band, which is called "More Songs To Learn and Sing".... Then, they should go out and get "Ocean Rain", which was one of the ten greatest albums of the 1980s IMO...

 

Thing is though, it's hard to really call Echo an "Indie" (as in 'independent', which was what "Indie" was originally all about...) band as such, like Jesus and Mary Chain they were on bloody Warner Brothers/WEA.... :lol: :lol:

I've only heard of them because of The Young Ones lol.

Already got their previous Best of album. I agree they're a good band.

Great band - they were one of the best bands I saw last year at Oxegen. Tiny little crowd too cos I think the Killers were on the main stage. I know who got the best deal.

Good call, excellent band :)

Already got their previous Best of album. I agree they're a good band.

 

I do as well somewhere, but it's got stuff off the most recent three or four albums that aint on the "Ballyhoo" compilation, so I reckon it's worth getting this one....

I should get their GH and listen to their songs. I like all the bands Grimly Fiendish listed.

Jesus and Mary Chain they were on bloody Warner Brothers/WEA.... :lol: :lol:

 

i don't give a flying f--k* what label JAMC** were on... they were indie through and through and are a perfect example that 'indie' is not just what label you are on...

 

 

*their last album was on sub-pop don't forget

** one of my top 5 life long groups

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whole heartedly agree abou e&tb. Have all their albums and while some are only decent, some are absolute classics. Much of their recent offerings I've enjoyed a lot as well...

I only have Evergreen and it's a good album but from what I've heard people say, it's not their best..

i don't give a flying f--k* what label JAMC** were on... they were indie through and through and are a perfect example that 'indie' is not just what label you are on...

*their last album was on sub-pop don't forget

** one of my top 5 life long groups

 

Sorry mate, "Indie" = 'Independent' no matter how leftfield and totally frazzled JAMC were, they were not on an Indie label and in the 80s and most of the 90s would NOT have appeared on an Indie Chart, same as Echo and the Bunnymen, same as House of Love, same as Nirvana; thems the rules mate, and should always be so IMO, because now we have every two-bit Corporate slag proclaiming themselves "Indie" when they're nothing of the fukkin' sort...

 

True, much later on JAMC went over to an Indie label, but it was Creation, not Sub Pop, but you're based in the US, yeah? So maybe "Munki" was distributed by Sub Pop over the pond, here it was deffo Creation who distributed it, I'm sure of it...

I only have Evergreen and it's a good album but from what I've heard people say, it's not their best..

 

It's a solid album, but no, not their best - "Ocean Rain", "Crocodiles" and "Heaven Up Here" are all great albums. The most recent one "Siberia" is also very good.... "More Songs To Learn and Sing" would be a very good purchase for you indeed....

 

Sorry mate, "Indie" = 'Independent' no matter how leftfield and totally frazzled JAMC were, they were not on an Indie label and in the 80s and most of the 90s would NOT have appeared on an Indie Chart, same as Echo and the Bunnymen, same as House of Love, same as Nirvana; thems the rules mate, and should always be so IMO, because now we have every two-bit Corporate slag proclaiming themselves "Indie" when they're nothing of the fukkin' sort...

 

we'll just get into an arguement of what 'indie' is i suppose... but indie is a style, a type of of sound if you will (to me). There are plenty of examples of bands on indie labels that are not indie than vice verca. All the bands you listed above were indie - i simply refuse to worry about a label. Nirvana was sup-pop until after nevermind was released, that makes them indie even for you. I can also assue you that all the above groups were on the college radio charts (the us indie charts back then) at the time as well.

 

 

True, much later on JAMC went over to an Indie label, but it was Creation, not Sub Pop, but you're based in the US, yeah? So maybe "Munki" was distributed by Sub Pop over the pond, here it was deffo Creation who distributed it, I'm sure of it...

 

yeah - never thought about what label they were in the UK for munki. I was at the sub-pop record release party for munki in seattle in fact, one of those friends of a friend situation to get the ticket for myself and my older bro (a fan from the beginning). A small bar with 100 people or so and was pretty funny as true to form they were very drunk (if not wasted on drugs). Just the 2 of them and i don't think they got through one song with out restarting or simply mumbling the words at parts as they didn't konw them... just realized that was 10 years ago! ykes!

we'll just get into an arguement of what 'indie' is i suppose... but indie is a style, a type of of sound if you will (to me).

 

 

scott is 100% correct, 'indie' = independant record lable. that IS where the term derived from and came about when new wave/punk/ guitar based contemporary groups of the late 70's 'did their own thing'

 

punk was about doing your own thing, and independant record labels blossomed to cater for the new generation of guitar based pop groups in order for them to play their own music.... ie, not dictated to by the likes of emi etc on what they could release.

 

that is where the term derived from, i know, i was there.

I only have Evergreen and it's a good album but from what I've heard people say, it's not their best..

 

one of their weaker ones for sure... i'll pick up 'What Are You Going To Do With Your Life' 9 out of 10 times over Evergreen... (both of similar ilk)

Jesus and Mary Chain began and ended on Creation. They wouldn't have been able to sustain the demand for them post-Upside Down on Creation though and I think McGee actually sorted out the deal with WEA for them.

 

By the time they returned for Munki, Creation had become big through Oasis but were inevitably crippled by the MBV album that would never come.

Jesus and Mary Chain began and ended on Creation. They wouldn't have been able to sustain the demand for them post-Upside Down on Creation though and I think McGee actually sorted out the deal with WEA for them.

 

By the time they returned for Munki, Creation had become big through Oasis but were inevitably crippled by the MBV album that would never come.

 

wasnt creation the record label that had oasis on it originally? if so like Emi's mute it will have been bankrolled by Sony for many years secretly without telling people who might be upset.

 

and i think i read that Jesus and Many Chain were to do with Rough Trade's Geoff Travis on his record label. think that Warner funded a label of his. this might be it as think rough trade kept going bust over and over again.

 

dont know if this might be at the time Rough Trade had a distribution firm which collapsed and lost the Smiths catalogue to Warners. havent read the book, would like to get it looks interesting.

 

 

oh read the word magazine for its are you indie feature

 

 

By the time they returned for Munki, Creation had become big through Oasis but were inevitably crippled by the MBV album that would never come.

 

It was actually MBV's "Loveless" album that crippled Creation to the tune of its £250,000 recording fees. MBV actually signed up to Island records after "Loveless" and built a recording studio on Island's tab for the, as you say, the third album that never came.....