June 2, 201510 yr Didn't the experience of Japan/South Korea in 2002 put FIFA off xo-hosting? Apparently felt like two separate tournaments, a criticism also levelled at Euro 2012. Euro 2000 and Euro 2008 were more positive experiences though, so the idea can work. Uruguay are bound to host some part of the 2030 World Cup, probably co-hosting with Argentina.
June 2, 201510 yr About time he had. Isn't this 6 days too late though. As this congress isn't set to take place until December at the earliest. Obviously the first small step to a new era for FIFA.
June 2, 201510 yr Didn't the experience of Japan/South Korea in 2002 put FIFA off xo-hosting? Apparently felt like two separate tournaments, a criticism also levelled at Euro 2012. Euro 2000 and Euro 2008 were more positive experiences though, so the idea can work. Uruguay are bound to host some part of the 2030 World Cup, probably co-hosting with Argentina. They said they didn't want any more co-hosts. That didn't stop some countries (Spain / Portugal) putting in a joint bid. The biggest problem with joint hosts is that it takes two qualifying places. That isn't too bad if at least one country is an almost certain qualifier anyway. It is more of a problem if they are both borderline qualifiers. It also helps if there is an open border between the two countries.
June 2, 201510 yr Uruguay are bound to host some part of the 2030 World Cup, probably co-hosting with Argentina. I read that somewhere, its to mark the 100 years of the World Cup, Uruguay and Argentina were both finalists, and Uruguay won, it could still happen. I rather have Uruguay hosting the whole tournament since they actually won it. I don't particularly like Joint hosts.
June 3, 201510 yr He was a senior person within FIFA for the whole of the time the alleged corruption was going on. If he really didn't know anything about it, that makes him incompetent. Both decisions on 2018 and 2022 should be revisited, although Russia and Qatar should both be able to state their case for keeping the tournament. allegations have been circulating in print for years and he had plenty of opportunity to clean up the house and do his job. Power corrupts and all that, if not subject to checks and balances, so I would imagine being found utterly incompetent is the least worst option for him now.... Tournaments? depends on how much evidence there is or not that the nations paid off officials to get them. If there is any hard evidence money exchanged hands then any country involved in that at an official level is highly suspect and should be disqualified from holding it. In which case it should go to the next best bid that is proven clean (or at least not proven guilty). The Americans don't muck about with corruption....! :o
June 3, 201510 yr Blatter is under investigation by the US over corruption. Even if they redo the voting process for the 2018 & 2022 World Cup. It's very likely that Qatar & Russia would sue FIFA. EDIT: South Africa have denied paying $10 bribe to secure the 2010 World Cup.
June 3, 201510 yr From the BBC.. The guilty pleas of former top Fifa official Chuck Blazer have been detailed with the release of papers from a 2013 hearing in New York. He says that he and others on Fifa's executive committee agreed to accept bribes in conjunction with the choice of South Africa as 2010 World Cup host. The American says he also accepted bribes over the 1998 event. The US has launched a wide-ranging criminal case that engulfed Fifa and led President Sepp Blatter to resign. The US prosecutors last week indicted 14 people on charges of bribery, racketeering and money laundering. Four others had already been charged, including Mr Blazer. The US justice department alleges they accepted bribes and kickbacks estimated at more than $150m (£97m) over a 24-year period. The details of Mr Blazer's guilty pleas came as prosecutors unsealed the transcript of the 2013 hearing in the Eastern New York District Court. The admissions are part of a sentencing deal with prosecutors. Mr Blazer was the second highest official in Fifa's North and Central American and Caribbean region (Concacaf) from 1990 to 2011 and also served on Fifa's executive committee between 1997 and 2013. Mr Blazer says: "Beginning in or around 2004 and continuing through 2011, I and others on the Fifa executive committee agreed to accept bribes in conjunction with the selection of South Africa as the host nation for the 2010 World Cup." Earlier on Wednesday, South Africa denied paying a $10m bribe to secure the hosting of the 2010 event. Mr Blazer also says: "I and others agreed to accept bribes and kickbacks in conjunction with the broadcast and other rights to the 1996, 1998, 2000, 2002 and 2003 Gold Cups (the regional championship for national teams)." Absolutely crazy.
June 4, 201510 yr Former FIFA vice-president Jack Warner has said in a TV address that he will revel all he knows about corruption at the world football body. He also said that he has feared for his life. Furthermore according to a British government minister, England would be ready and able to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup if it was stripped from Qatar. However this is unlikely to happen as Russia are staging the 2018 tournament.
June 4, 201510 yr According to the Football Association of Ireland. FIFA paid them 5 million Irish euros to stop them taking legal action over Thierry Henry's handball in Ireland's 2010 World Cup play-off defeat to France.
June 4, 201510 yr According to the Football Association of Ireland. FIFA paid them 5 million Irish euros to stop them taking legal action over Thierry Henry's handball in Ireland's 2010 World Cup play-off defeat to France. It's crazy. Going by the rumours, as has long been suspected, there might have been some match-fixing in 2002. Not sure who would want to lead FIFA after all this comes out.
June 5, 201510 yr Furthermore according to a British government minister, England would be ready and able to host the 2022 FIFA World Cup if it was stripped from Qatar. However this is unlikely to happen as Russia are staging the 2018 tournament. If Qatar was stripped from hosting, it could still swing to a European host if a European country is ready to host, also there is plenty of time to sort Qatar's Big Mess, personally I can't see Qatar hosting it now surely officials will start digging to see if bribes were taken for Qatar to host, not sure about Russia, but I think its too late to do anything about that one.
June 5, 201510 yr It's crazy. Going by the rumours, as has long been suspected, there might have been some match-fixing in 2002. Not sure who would want to lead FIFA after all this comes out. I bet it was that South Korea Italy match, the amount of wrong decisions in that one was perplexing and angers Italians to this day. Swear the ref got caught match-fixing later too. Worst thing for the English to say is that we'd step in and host the 2022 World Cup. Firstly, there's no void to fill yet. Secondly, it just perpetuates the view that the English are bitter about not getting the World Cup rather than the corruption. People underestimate how staggeringly unpopular England is to the rest of the world! Part of me is surprised we even got 2 votes in the 2018 World Cup bidding. :lol: Greg Dyke should shut up and let the details unravel. They speak louder than anything the English FA and government ministers pipe up about.
June 5, 201510 yr England would have a better chance of stepping in to host 2018 in the unlikely event that it is taken away from Russia. After all, there can't be many countries capable of staging the tournament at short notice. If Qatar lose 2022, I can't see FIFA having two successive tournaments in Europe.
June 5, 201510 yr England would have a better chance of stepping in to host 2018 in the unlikely event that it is taken away from Russia. After all, there can't be many countries capable of staging the tournament at short notice. If Qatar lose 2022, I can't see FIFA having two successive tournaments in Europe. If England do end up hosting 2018, than an Oceania country could be up for 2022 if Qatar lose it. I do sense that Qatar will lose it, plus there is still plenty of time to do a re-vote. I don't think it really matters having two successive tournaments in Europe, if a European country is ready to host a competition, it just be a one-off situation, anyway 2022 is far off, it could go to the runners up (US) for all we know.
June 5, 201510 yr Do people actually want England to host the World Cup? For me, part of the excitement of a World Cup is learning about the host country, seeing different players play in exotic places. Seeing the England team grapple with swealtering heat and the adventure associated with different countries. All that would be lost if the World Cup was held in cities like Sunderland, Birmingham and Sheffield. Stadiums we see every week anyway. Plus, who actually enjoys hosting a party!? :lol: Much better to attend as a guest.
June 5, 201510 yr Do people actually want England to host the World Cup? I do actually, at least we don't have to play in the preliminary draws as England will get an automatic entry as a host nation for 2018 :lol: I think Russia will host the 2018 comp as the preliminary draws are just weeks away. Asked if he thought the 2018 World Cup would go ahead in Russia, Johnson said: "Yes, the preliminary draw is just a few weeks away, it's too late to change it. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...n-10292941.html
June 5, 201510 yr I do actually, at least we don't have to play in the preliminary draws as England will get an automatic entry as a host nation for 2018 :lol: I think Russia will host the 2018 comp as the preliminary draws are just weeks away. http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/footbal...n-10292941.html And indeed, some nations, the really weak ones like Caribbean islands and Asian nations where football isn't very popular, have already started their qualifying campaigns for it even before the draw. Russia won't be changing. I wouldn't mind England hosting, but the preliminary draws are nothing to worry about for us, there's very little chance of us not making the finals these days and I agree with ML Hammer, I like seeing the World Cup hosted in far-off places, and if it were hosted here, I'd feel pressure to actually try and go to a football match in person, which I'd find absolutely terrifying. Though I suppose I didn't try to go to any of the Olympics (bit of a regret in all honesty) and I enjoy them far more so that may not be a problem. I'd say if Qatar did go, would it not be USA's prerogative, as they came 2nd in the bidding and would easily be able to take it up with very few problems. 94 was successful for a reason. Them or Australia.
June 5, 201510 yr The USA are the obvious ones, they are doing all the work that no-one else wanted to do digging through the mounds of dirt and corruption, and they will be livid that they lost the bid to corruption (allegedly). I would imagine the bulk of the teams would be overjoyed not to be playing in ridiculous risky temperatures and jet off to a more balmy and pleasant venue. Russia, of course, can't possibly have been involved in anything corrupt and underhand, the very idea is just too ridiculous and I'm sure the Americans won't even be looking very hard for evidence. :teresa:
June 5, 201510 yr Do people actually want England to host the World Cup? For me, part of the excitement of a World Cup is learning about the host country, seeing different players play in exotic places. Seeing the England team grapple with swealtering heat and the adventure associated with different countries. All that would be lost if the World Cup was held in cities like Sunderland, Birmingham and Sheffield. Stadiums we see every week anyway. Plus, who actually enjoys hosting a party!? :lol: Much better to attend as a guest. but that is somewhat trivial at the end of the day isn't it because you could spend that energy taking great pride in your homeland hosting a wonderful competition after all, it'll only be once in a lifetime such an occasion could or would occur
June 5, 201510 yr I think it would be great for us to host. Our hosting of the Olympics really showed us at our most cultural and crucially, united as a nation, I can't remember a happier two weeks in recent years. I see no reason why we couldn't do perform similarly well with hosting the World Cup (I mean we'd probably do terribly, unlike Team GB but it's all about the unity really), tis the same for other countries and cultures but we shouldn't be any different. That said, I feel the US would be the fairest option for 2022, they'd handle it fine I'm sure. (V.glad for all this corruption being exposed and Blatter out, a Qatar world cup was just ridiculous really) Edited June 5, 201510 yr by Chez Wombat
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