Opposition politicians really should be more careful what they say. This is what Theresa May said when she was on the opposition benches.

 

"I find it extraordinary that a Minister isn’t willing just to step up to the plate and take responsibility... I’m actually sick and tired of Government Ministers who simply blame other people when something goes wrong"

Her former Right-Hand Prop, Dick Timothy, who headed that marvellous General election campaign for her has also been out suggesting in the media that the Vans instructing illegal immigrants to piss off home were actually not supported by Mrs May. No, it seems she was against the idea and some nasty (un-named and un-blamed) minions decided to go ahead with it after she'd said no, while she was on holiday (destination and timing unclear) and utterly totally not anywhere near the internet or news feeds or in touch with anyone back home that might have told her about the blatant disregard of her instructions, and definitely not anywhere near a phone to make enquiries about her staff making her look like such a callous, heartless robot who can't even consider the effect her policies would have consequences for in inflicting misery on British citizens.

 

She was SO shocked to find out about the vans that she stopped them driving the streets immediately many months later, and thoughtfully failed to mention to her colleagues running other departments that she is just a figurehead and not in control of her blatantly nasty staff.

 

You know you are shit at PR when you make the person you are trying to help avoid blame for their actions look and sound even more incompetent and useless at their job than they already appeared.

 

Wonder why he was fired.....

The story about her being on holiday doesn't even score as much as zero out of ten on the plausibility scale. Government advertising campaigns don't go from vague idea to fruition in a week or two unless they are a response to an emergency. Therefore, Mayhem is expecting us to believe that the planning for the racist vans continued despite her opposition to the idea. That planning supposedly continued without her knowing anything about it so that it could be put into action just as soon as she nipped out of the office to go for a few walks. This "I was in charge but I had no idea what was going on" line is, of course, known as the Rebekah Brooks defence.

Not all Windrush documents destroyed

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-56...tion-found.html

 

Windrush generation arrival records are FOUND: Tens of thousands of landing cards are found in the National Archives despite fears May's Home Office shredded the lot

Landing slips of tens of thousands of Windrush generation immigrants found

The find strengthen the cases for those trying to prove they are British citizens

Arrivals at ports until 1960, more than 85,000 people arriving from Caribbean

The Home Office destroyed its cache of landing slips eight years ago

 

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There's still the unresolved question of when, and thus who, ordered the documents destroyed? :unsure:

 

Obviously that pales into utter insignificance compared to the distress & loss caused, but politically we should still be told who to assign the blame to.

The question of who ordered the documents be destroyed (whether a minister or not) is just a distraction. The real issue is the dreadful legislation steered through parliament by one Theresa May. That's what happens when you out-source policy-making to the Daily Mail.

The government knows exactly how long you have worked in the UK because your pension depends on it as do taxes paid tv licences national insurance number issued. These are all feeble excuses fir trying to get rid of British citizens when other records exist. It's bullshit. May did exactly what she wanted to do ans did nothing about it when it was reportedly happening. She was either stupid or cruel. No other option.

The question of who ordered the documents be destroyed (whether a minister or not) is just a distraction.

 

The real issue is the dreadful legislation steered through parliament by one Theresa May.

 

That's what happens when you out-source policy-making to the Daily Mail.

 

As I said.

 

So, who *are* you blaming - TM or the DM? :unsure:

 

The government knows exactly how long you have worked in the UK because your pension depends on it as do taxes paid tv licences national insurance number issued. These are all feeble excuses fir trying to get rid of British citizens when other records exist. It's bullshit. May did exactly what she wanted to do ans did nothing about it when it was reportedly happening. She was either stupid or cruel. No other option.

 

AIUI, the problem is not with proving how long they have lived/worked in the UK, as numerous records of all kinds exist that would demonstrate that - but whether they arrived here legally in the first place?

 

But in any case, an amnesty for people who can prove they have been in the UK for,say, over 30 years, would be the easiest, and most humanitarian way of dealing with the problem.

 

As I said.

 

So, who *are* you blaming - TM or the DM? :unsure:

How about both?

How about both?

 

But the DM doesn't control how MP's vote... :rolleyes:

Tory MPs are not exactly known for their willingness to defy the party whips.

Tory MPs are not exactly known for their willingness to defy the party whips.

 

Their willingness to do so is probably in proportion to their HoC majority (or not, this time round). :P

I see the Mail doesn't have a monopoly on factual errors...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/ap...indrush-britain

 

'V Anderson, who has just stepped off the the flight, is looking dapper. Now 74, the retired structural engineer from South West London was 14 when he arrived in the UK in early 1962.'

 

2018-1962=56 years. What's 14+56? :rolleyes:

I see the Mail doesn't have a monopoly on factual errors...

 

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/ap...indrush-britain

 

'V Anderson, who has just stepped off the the flight, is looking dapper. Now 74, the retired structural engineer from South West London was 14 when he arrived in the UK in early 1962.'

 

2018-1962=56 years. What's 14+56? :rolleyes:

Maybe he's related to that black man Cameron met in the 2010 election campaign. The 40-year-old who had spent 30 years in the armed services.

As I said.

 

So, who *are* you blaming - TM or the DM? :unsure:

AIUI, the problem is not with proving how long they have lived/worked in the UK, as numerous records of all kinds exist that would demonstrate that - but whether they arrived here legally in the first place?

 

But in any case, an amnesty for people who can prove they have been in the UK for,say, over 30 years, would be the easiest, and most humanitarian way of dealing with the problem.

If someone is known to have worked for 40 years and have a commonwealth passport it's a case of duuuuuhhhhh!

 

If they didn't have records on where they came from they wouldn't be able to deport them. Just bullshit excuses for a racist campaign. No white commonwealth citizens were deported or troubled.

If someone is known to have worked for 40 years and have a commonwealth passport it's a case of duuuuuhhhhh!

 

If they didn't have records on where they came from they wouldn't be able to deport them. Just bullshit excuses for a racist campaign. No white commonwealth citizens were deported or troubled.

 

Did many of them come over on 'Windrush', then?

 

There are and always have been shitloads of white Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians and non-Commonwealth whites living and working in the UK.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigr..._United_Kingdom

 

White English-speaking folk don't usually get targeted, it's those pesky EU citizens or dark-skinned ones or oriental ones coming over here and taking all the best cleaning jobs, bar staff, waiter jobs and fast-food outlet services that should be reserved for white unqualified unskilled people who are just queuing up to do it...

So instead of reporting on the three huge Tory scandals right now, the BBC has top stories on straws an Debenham's sales

 

Well done, BBTory mouth of the government and Tory puppet x

 

We SO don't think you are the same as RussiaTv or Iranian news propaganda x

There are and always have been shitloads of white Aussies, Kiwis, Canadians and non-Commonwealth whites living and working in the UK.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_immigr..._United_Kingdom

 

White English-speaking folk don't usually get targeted, it's those pesky EU citizens or dark-skinned ones or oriental ones coming over here and taking all the best cleaning jobs, bar staff, waiter jobs and fast-food outlet services that should be reserved for white unqualified unskilled people who are just queuing up to do it...

 

You are in good sarcastic form recently. :teresa:

So instead of reporting on the three huge Tory scandals right now, the BBC has top stories on straws an Debenham's sales

 

Three? Which one did I miss?

So instead of reporting on the three huge Tory scandals right now, the BBC has top stories on straws an Debenham's sales

 

Well done, BBTory mouth of the government and Tory puppet x

 

We SO don't think you are the same as RussiaTv or Iranian news propaganda x

 

we so don't.

 

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Corbyn is quoted and reported on two articles condemning the PM and the Tories.

 

The BBC is doing it's job which is reporting. You can argue the above articles could be higher up the rankings in terms of headlines but they pretty obviously take the "hits" on articles as the guide to what they show on the general page, so if the public keep clicking on the London marathon then that's what is the headline.