October 18, 20186 yr I can see both new albums selling well for both and when it all ends for both bands in a few years or so there won't be much of a sales difference between both although I would think take that especially Gary will be a lot richer due to royalties.
October 18, 20186 yr ... Nobody said either of those things nor was it referenced as such in the said article. A sign of youthful sensibility perhaps, though you're right they're both on same levels of achievement. If you are referring to my want for them to remain the biggest selling boyband in the UK that's just natural as a fan. Based on Official Charts Company UK sales as it stands at the moment: TT: 13.7 mil albums / 10.2 mil singles = 23.9 million Westlife: 12 mil albums / 7.2 mil singles = 19.2 million 4.7 million in total more records sold by TT. However TT were a huge 7.5 million records behind when they got back together in 2005, so you never know. You know what though? It doesn't matter there's more to life than two pop bands. You'll see that one day. Ultimately it's music not stats that may or may not out live both groups. It's just nice to know TT have sold so well. What I will say however is, TT fans accepted when WL were millions of records sold ahead of them in the UK with no fuss all those years. Then it changed in the other direction with TT currently millions more sold than Westlife in the UK. Difference being WL fans unlike Take That fans have a hard time accepting this change, which I don't understand as Westlife have sold slightly more worldwide. So why the big fuss over the UK? You know Everything Changes right? However, with Westlife's return I hope their fans have matured as well. Hopefully the new music will reflect this. Well i can't question your opinion for the general approach. But personally I remember when Take that came back their fans claiming take that were gods compared to westlife and how chart position and sales were not reasonable nowadays (back then). But anyway. Take that had all the push from the media in the UK back then and during their come back as i understand it was the top english boyband england had exposed.... Unlike Westlife who were mostly rejected by people who didnt like them or even didn't want to like them. Anyway good luck to both. Excluding RObbies and a little bit of Gary's arrogance, take that are good fellas as well and i respect them.
October 25, 20186 yr Out of curiosity here are the ten places the past year Take That & Westlife were most viewed on youtube & streamed. Highlighted in bold a nation in largest top 10 IFPI music market for 2017. Top 10 places listening and streaming past year TAKE THAT 1.London,UK (Europe) 2.Santiago,Chile (South America) 3.Dublin,Ireland (Europe) 4.Rome,Italy (Europe) 5.Milan,Italy (Europe) 6.Lima,Peru (South America) 7.Tel Aviv,Israel (Asia) 8.Budapest,Hungary (Europe) 9.Sao Paulo,Brazil (South America) 10.Liverpool,UK (Europe) 6 Europe, 3 South America & 1 Asia. Other highest places from other continents for past year: 24.Sydney,Australia (Australasia) 49.New York,USA (North America) - None in top 100 (Africa) Total places out of 100: 66 Europe, 13 South America, 12 Asia, 5 Australasia, 4 North America & Africa none. WESTLIFE 1.Jakarta,Indonesia (Asia) 2.Bangkok,Thailand (Asia) 3.Quezon City,Philippines (Asia) 4.Kaula Lumper,Malaysia (Asia) 5.Ho Chi Minh City,Vietnam (Asia) 6.Surabaya,Indonesia (Asia) 7.Hanoi,Vietnam (Asia) 8.Makati,Philippines (Asia) 9.Cebu City,Philippines (Asia) 10.Davao City,Philippines (Asia) 10 - Asia Other highest places from other continents for past year: 16.London,UK (Europe) 21.Nairobi,Kenya (Africa) 29.Lima,Peru (South America) 39.Sydney,Australia (Australasia) 43.New York,USA (North America) Total places out of 100: 81 Asia, 5 North America, 4 Africa, 4 Europe, 3 Australasia and 3 South America. Top 10 countries listening and streaming past year TAKE THAT 1.UK (Europe) 2.Italy (Europe) 3.Germany (Europe) 4.Brazil (South America) 5.USA (North America) 6.Spain (Europe) 7.Argentina (South America) 8.Chile (South America) 9.Ireland (Europe) 10.Mexico (North America) 5 Europe, 3 South America & 2 North America Other highest nations from other continents for past year: 15.Australia (Australasia) 17.Japan (Asia) 49.South Africa (Africa) Total countries out of 100: 43 Europe, 24 Asia, 12 North America, 10 South America, 9 Africa & 2 Australasia. WESTLIFE 1.Indonesia (Asia) 2.Philippines (Asia) 3.Vietnam (Asia) 4.Thailand (Asia) 5.USA (North America) 6.UK (Europe) 7.Malaysia (Asia) 8.India (Asia) 9.Taiwan (Asia) 10.South Korea (Asia) 8 Asia, 1 Europe & 1 North America Other highest nations from other continents for past year: 11.Brazil (South America) 20.South Africa (Africa) 22.Australia (Australasia) Total countries out of 100: 33 Asia, 30 Europe, 19 Africa, 8 North America, 7 South America & 3 Australasia. They interestingly have different areas of popularity from each other. In terms of TT Wonderland Live Tour last year and daring to go to new places, Israel, New Zealand being a first time and Australia after 20+ years. Dubai again after a couple of years. All those cities are represented in the top 100 for past year, except the two NZ cities which didn't make the 100. I think this shows that touring has a huge effect, the fact Tel Aviv shot up to #7 for the year proves this and hopefully they've now learned you need to tour all of these countries to see results. On top 10 countries list, five countries they have never toured, the three South American countries - Chile, Argentina, Brazil and in North America - USA and Mexico. For top 10 cities list, they haven't toured in Chile, Peru, Brazil or Hungary in Europe select cities of popularity. Edited October 28, 20186 yr by nirvanamusic
October 28, 20186 yr Adding top ten for Boyzone, East 17, Bros (split 1992), All-4-One, Color Me Badd, New Kids On the Block & Boyz II Men as all were big during Take That years in 90's as well. Again in bold a top 10 music market 2017. Top 10 countries listening and streaming past year BOYZONE 1.Philippines (Asia) 2.UK (Europe) 3.Indonesia (Asia) 4.USA (North America) 5.Germany (Europe) 6.India (Asia) 7.Malaysia (Asia) 8.Thailand (Asia) 9.Vietnam (Asia) 10.Taiwan (Asia) 7 Asia, 2 Europe & 1 North America Other highest places from other continents for past year: 11.Australia (Australasia) 12.Brazil (South America) 33.South Africa (Africa) EAST 17 1.Germany (Europe) 2.UK (Europe) 3.France (Europe) 4.Czech Republic (Europe) 5.Russia (Europe) 6.Poland (Europe) 7.Hungary (Europe) 8.Australia (Australasia) 9.Italy (Europe) 10.Romania (Europe) 9 Europe & 1 Australasia. Other highest nations from other continents for past year: 14.USA (North America) 20.Philippines (Asia) 25.Brazil (South America) 29.Algeria (Africa) BROS 1.UK (Europe) 2.Germany (Europe) 3.France (Europe) 4.Hungary (Europe) 5.Spain (Europe) 6.Italy (Europe) 7.Australia (Australasia) 8.Turkey (Europe) 9.Slovakia (Europe) 10.Czech Republic (Europe) 9 Europe & 1 Australasia Other highest nations from other continents for past year: 11.Japan (Asia) 16.USA (North America) 18.Chile (South America) 28.Egypt (Africa) ALL-4-ONE 1.USA (North America) 2.Philippines (Asia) 3.UK (Europe) 4.Indonesia (Asia) 5.South Africa (Africa) 6.Canada (North America) 7.Germany (Europe) 8.Thailand (Asia) 9.Australia (Australasia) 10.Brazil (South America) 3 Asia, 2 Europe, 2 North America, 1 Africa, 1 Australasia & 1 South America. A full house!! All six continents represented within the last year top 10. 6/10 top music markets within also. COLOR ME BAD 1.USA (North America) 2.UK (Europe) 3.Philippines (Asia) 4.Australia (Australasia) 5.Canada (North America) 6.Brazil (South America) 7.Indonesia (Asia) 8.New Zealand (Australasia) 9.Germany (Europe) 10.Mexico (North America) 3 North America, 2 Asia, 2 Australasia, 2 Europe & 1 South America. Other highest nations from other continents for past year: 11.South Africa (Africa) NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK 1.USA (North America) 2.Brazil (South America) 3.Mexico (North America) 4.Peru (South America) 5.Chile (South America) 6.Colombia (South America) 7.Canada (North America) 8.Germany (Europe) 9.Argentina (South America) 10.UK (Europe) 5 South America, 3 North America & 2 Europe. Other highest nations from other continents for past year: 12.Indonesia (Asia) 20.Australia (Australasia) 39.South Africa (Africa) BOYZ II MEN 1.USA (North America) 2.Philippines (Asia) 3.UK (Europe) 4.South Africa (Africa) 5.Brazil (South America) 6.Canada (North America) 7.Australia (Australasia) 8.France (Europe) 9.Germany (Europe) 10.Jamaica (North America) 3 Europe, 3 North America, 1 Africa, 1 Asia, 1 Australasia & 1 South America. Another full house from another American group and 8 out of 10 of the biggest markets. Japan were #12 and South Korea #16 to round off the 10 biggest music markets. Edited October 29, 20186 yr by nirvanamusic
December 8, 20186 yr Country By Country Sales Only Comparing Nations where full access to sales for both are available. In bold is a 2017 top 10 music market. Argentina: Take That Australia: Westlife Austria: Take That Belgium: Take That Brazil: Westlife Canada: Take That Czech Republic: Take That Denmark: Take That Finland: Take That France: Take That Germany: Take That Greece: Take That Hong Kong: Westlife Hungary: Take That Iceland: Take That Indonesia: Westlife Ireland: Westlife Israel: Take That Italy: Take That Japan: Take That Korea: Westlife Latvia: Take That Lithuania: Take That Malaysia: Westlife Mexico: Westlife Netherlands: Take That New Zealand: Westlife Norway: Westlife Philippines: Westlife Poland: Take That Portugal: Take That Russia: Take That Slovakia: Take That Spain: Take That Sweden: Westlife Switzerland: Take That Taiwan: Take That Turkey: Take That UK: Take That USA: Take That Edited May 5, 20241 yr by nirvanamusic
January 5, 20196 yr *note for any future potential later readers I'll be using this post to keep up to date on certs, figures will change* With the promo and new reunion Westlife single coming next week on the 11th. Let's see where both groups stand. Based on Official Charts Company UK sales as it stands at the moment: TT: 14.4 mil albums / 13.2 mil singles = 27.6 million Westlife: 12.2 mil albums / 10.4 mil singles = 22.6 million 4 million in total more records sold by TT. However TT were a huge 7.5 million records behind Westlife when they got back together in 2005, so you never know. The climate is so different now that I read someone say that Platinum today for albums would have been the equivalent of 1 million copies sold 10 years ago. The gap will be closed through older songs moving up and new releases, however I'm not so sure. Take That selling 7.5 million records and a further 4 million to go clear is just insane. Edited May 10, 20241 yr by nirvanamusic
April 7, 20196 yr Digital Spy Number Ones Vote: Average Out of 10. Voted on by a range of music fan and age. All number one singles by Take That, Westlife, Gary, Robbie and Brian. 40 UK chart topping singles between all of them. 1.Patience - Take That, 8.00 2.Millennium - Robbie Williams, 6.82 3.Back For Good - Take That, 6.61 4.These Days - Take That, 6.38 5.Shine - Take That, 5.86 6.Greatest Day - Take That, 5.82 7.Rock DJ - Robbie Williams, 5.25 8.Relight My Fire - Take That, 5.04 9.Flying Without Wings - Westlife, 4.88 10.Everything Changes - Take That, 4.82 11.She's The One - Robbie Williams, 4.78 12.Pray - Take That, 4.75 13.Never Forget - Take That, 4.59 14.Radio - Robbie Williams, 4.56 15.Swear It Again - Westlife, 4.54 16.Somethin' Stupid - Robbie Williams, 4.38 17.World Of Our Own - Westlife, 4.23 18.If I Let You Go - Westlife, 4.21 19.Eternity - Robbie Williams, 4.15 20=I Have A Dream - Westlife, 4.00 20=It's Only Us - Robbie Williams, 4.00 20=Sure - Take That, 4.00 23.My Love - Westlife, 3.87 24.Love Won't Wait - Gary Barlow, 3.86 25.The Rose - Westlife, 3.67 26.Fool Again - Westlife, 3.63 27.Candy - Robbie Williams, 3.60 28.How Deep Is Your Love - Take That, 3.52 29.The Road To Mandalay - Robbie Williams, 3.50 30.Uptown Girl - Westlife, 3.38 31.Real To Me - Brian McFadden, 3.33 32.Babe - Take That, 3.26 33.Sing - Gary Barlow, 3.22 34.Seasons In The Sun - Westlife, 3.11 35=Mandy - Westlife, 2.86 35=You Raise Me Up - Westlife, 2.86 37.Unbreakable - Westlife, 2.77 38.Queen Of My Heart - Westlife, 2.55 39.Forever Love - Gary Barlow, 2.35 40.Against All Odds - Westlife, 2.30 Take That Top 10 Rated 1.Patience - 8.00 2.Back For Good - 6.61 3.These Days - 6.38 4.Shine - 5.86 5.Greatest Day - 5.82 6.Relight My Fire - 5.04 7.Everything Changes - 4.82 8.Pray - 4.75 9.Never Forget - 4.59 10.Sure - 4.00 Westlife Top 10 Rated 1.Flying Without Wings - 4.88 2.Swear It Again - 4.54 3.World Of Our Own - 4.23 4.If I Let You Go - 4.21 5.I Have A Dream - 4.00 6.My Love - 3.87 7.The Rose - 3.67 8.Fool Again - 3.63 9.Uptown Girl - 3.38 10.Seasons In The Sun - 3.11 Edited April 9, 20196 yr by nirvanamusic
April 7, 20196 yr Yes. Done over months, three years given at a time between 1952 and 2018, scored for a week and then averages complied after voting closed. Edited April 7, 20196 yr by nirvanamusic
April 9, 20196 yr Everything Changes being scored higher than Pray and Never Forget. The interesting thing is Sure is higher ranked by general public than by the fanbase, it would appear. Brief instrumental of song is regularly featured in Derry Girls, namely the dramatic change after piano intro and into first chorus. All four comeback chart toppers ranking so highly, especially These Days, always assumed this was fan #1 due to sole week at top and supported as first by them as a three piece. Westlife their four highest are all original songs and their best. Interesting to see how Rule The World would have scored, as we know it was #2 behind Bleeding Love by Leona Lewis for weeks. That song was scored 6.92 overall and would rank second in TT,WL,GB,RW,BM list above behind Patience. Edited April 9, 20196 yr by nirvanamusic
January 11, 20205 yr UK Sales - Original Studio albums, Live Albums and Greatest Hits As of the end of 2019. Take That Take That & Party (1992), 870,000 Everything Changes (1993), 1.3 million Nobody Else (1995), 680,000 Greatest Hits (1996), 1.2 million Never Forget: The Ultimate Collection (2005), 2.4 million The Platinum Collection (2006), 60,000 Beautiful World (2006), 2.8 million The Circus (2008), 2.3 million The Greatest Day - Take That Present The Circus Live (2009), 514,000 Progress (2010), 2.4 million Progress Live (2011), 175,100 III (2014), 579,200 Wonderland (2017), 220,946 Odyssey (2018), 337,800 The Best Of Take That (2001), Forever...Greatest Hits (2002) and Odyssey - Greatest Hits Live (2019) are all currently below 60,000 UK sales. Westlife Westlife (1999), 1.5 million Coast To Coast (2000), 1.8 million World Of Our Own (2001), 1.2 million Unbreakable - Greatest Hits, Vol 1. (2002), 1.8 million Turnaround (2003), 778,000 Allow Us To Be Frank (2004), 717,000 Face To Face (2005), 1.3 million The Love Album (2006), 1 million Back Home (2007), 992,730 Where We Are (2009), 600,000 Gravity (2010), 381,500 Greatest Hits (2011), 702,300 Spectrum (2019), 131,200 The Love Songs (2014) is currently below 60,000 UK sales. UK Singles - Platinum+ Take That: Triple Platinum: Over 1.8 million copies sold. Rule The World (2007) Double Platinum: Over 1.2 million copies sold. Back For Good (1995) Patience (2006) Shine (2007) Platinum: Over 600,000 copies sold. Babe (1993) Never Forget (1995) How Deep Is Your Love (1996) Greatest Day (2008) The Flood (2010) These Days (2014) Westlife Double Platinum: Over 1.2 million copies sold. Uptown Girl (2001) Platinum: Over 600,000 copies sold. Swear It Again (1999) If I Let You Go (1999) Flying Without Wings (1999) I Have A Dream/Seasons In The Sun (1999) World Of Our Own (2002) You Raise Me Up (2005) Hello My Love (2019) Edited February 21Feb 21 by nirvanamusic
February 3, 20205 yr total album sales of Westlife are a bit over 13.2 million and singles close to 9.9 million in the UK, confirmed via OCC. They are also certified for around 1.5 million DVDs. do you have a recent OCC article about Take That?
May 4, 20241 yr Take That Take That & Party (1992) - 600,000 A Million Love Songs: 400,000Could It Be Magc: 200,000 Total: 1.2 million. Everything Changes (1993) - 1.2 million Why Can't I Wake Up With You: 200,000Pray: 400,000Relight My Fire: 400,000Babe: 600,000Everything Changes: 400,000Love Ain't Here Anymore: 200,000 Total: 3.4 million Nobody Else (1995) - 600,000 Sure: 200,000Back For Good: 1.2 millionNever Forget: 600,000 Total: 2.6 million Greatest Hits (1996) - 1.2 million How Deep Is Your Love: 600,000 Total: 1.8 million Never Forget: The Ultimate Collection (2005) - 2.4 million Total: 2.4 million Beautiful World (2006) - 2.7 million Patience: 1.2 millionShine: 1.2 millionRule The World: 1.8 million Total: 6.9 million The Platinum Collection (2006) - 60,000 Total: 60,000 The Circus (2008) - 2.1 million Greatest Day: 600,000Up All Night: 200,000Said It All: 200,000 Total: 3.1 million The Greatest Day - Take That Present: The Circus Live (2009) - 300,000 Total: 300,000 Progress (2010) - 2.4 million The Flood: 600,000Kidz: 200,000 Total: 3.2 million Progress Live (2011) - 100,000 Total: 100,000 III (2014) - 300,000 These Days: 600,000 Total: 900,000 Wonderland (2017) - 100,000 Cry: 200,000Giants: 200,000 Total: 500,000 Odyssey (2018) - 300,000 Total: 300,000 This Life (2023) - 100,000 Total: 100,000 Westlife Westlife (1999) - 1.5 million Swear It Again: 600,000If I Let You Go: 600,000Flying Without Wings: 600,000I Have A Dream/Seasons In The Sun: 600,000Fool Again: 200,000 Total: 4.1 million Coast To Coast (2000) - 1.8 million Against All Odds: 400,000My Love: 400,000What Makes A Man: 400,000 Total: 3 million World Of Our Own (2001) - 1.2 million Uptown Girl: 1.2 millionQueen Of My Heart: 400,000When You're Looking Like That: 400,000World Of Our Own: 600,000Bop Bop Baby: 200,000 Total: 4 million Unbreakable - The Greatest Hits Volume 1 (2002) - 1.8 million Unbreakable: 200,000 Total: 2 million. Turnaround (2003) - 600,000 Mandy: 200,000 Total: 800,000 ...Allow Us To Be Frank (2004) - 600,000 Total: 600,000 Face To Face (2005) - 1.2 million You Raise Me Up: 600,000 Total: 1.8 million The Love Album (2006) - 900,000 The Rose: 200,000 Total: 1.1 million Back Home (2007) - 900,000 Home: 200,000 Total: 1.1 million Where We Are (2009) - 600,000 What About Now: 400,000 Total: 1 million Gravity (2010) - 300,000 Total: 300,000 Greatest Hits (2011) - 900,000 Total: 900,000 Spectrum (2019) - 100,000 Hello My Love: 600,000Better Man: 200,000 Total: 900,000 Wild Dreams (2021) - 100,000 Total: 100,000 Final Table 1.Beautiful World (2006) Take That - 6.9 million.2.Westlife (1999) Westlife - 4.1 million.3.World Of Our Own (2001) Westlife - 4 million.4.Everything Changes (1993) Take That - 3.4 million.5.Progress (2010) Take That - 3.2 million.6.The Circus (2008) Take That - 3.1 million.7.Coast To Coast (2000) Westlife - 3 million.8.Nobody Else (1995) Take That - 2.6 million.9.Never Forget: The Ultimate Collection (2005) Take That - 2.4 million.10.Unbreakable - The Greatest Hits Volume 1 (2002) Westlife - 2 million. Edited May 2May 2 by nirvanamusic
May 4, 20241 yr HA!!! No comparison. Take That write their own songs. They may be a step below the Spice Girls, but that's ok. Westshite are a karaoke act.
May 26, 20241 yr Amazing kob nirvanamusic! You did a mistake in Westlife album (1999). Never mind. Are there any others sources to get the total sales of certain singles / albuma of Westlife other than bpi certified?
