January 13, 20169 yr I'm starting to think her reaction may have been an excessive defence mechanism (like she thought it made her look stupid or something) but I dunno, I'm no psychologist~ She was in the wrong anyway, there was no need to take it to such extremes against a woman who has just lost someone who played a huge part in her life.
January 13, 20169 yr I'm sorry but I don't really see what Tiffany done so wrong yes she was a bit OTT in her reaction and she probably should have apologised sooner when she found out but the whole house pretty much ganged up on her and told her they didn't feel safe around her while also telling her to leave so she probably thought she had to defend herself and snap back at them . She made a pretty honest and geunine mistake as it was very clear Angie only said David and not her Ex Husband or David Bowie . If anything I felt John came across a lot worse as he pretty much tried to start a witch hunt against her and isolated her from everyone in the house over a misunderstanding. The whole thing was HILARIOUS to watch though ! Edited January 13, 20169 yr by troylovesmusic
January 13, 20169 yr To be fair, watching it back, no one really gave her the opportunity to apologise. They just kept pushing her away from Angie. Didn't she say "no, i'm not apologising to that old bitch" at one point? :P I also think this miscarriage could've made her MORE sympathetic to Angie because she knows what it's like to lose someone, but i'm not in a position to say how she should've been feeling after that horrible incident of course!
January 13, 20169 yr I'm sorry but I don't really see what Tiffany done wrong yes she was a bit OTT in her reaction and she probably should have apologised sooner when she found out but the whole house pretty much ganged up on her and told her they didn't feel safe around her while also telling her to leave so she probably thought she had to defend herself and snap back at them . She made a pretty honest and geunine mistake as it was very clear Angie only said David and not her Ex Husband or David Bowie . If anything I felt John came across a lot worse as he pretty much tried to start a witch hunt against her and isolated her from everyone in the house over a misunderstanding. The whole thing was HILARIOUS to watch though ! You must have missed the bits where she had to be held back from aggressively confronting a clearly fragile and upset woman, blatantly lying to housemates that Angie specified 'David Gest' when asked to clarify, calling her an "old bitch" after realising she was in fact grieving for her ex-husband and she (Tiffany) had misunderstood, not to mention denying she was in the wrong for hours and continuing to act obnoxiously in Angie's presence... (And that's all from some clips I've seen so there's probably more. I'm not even watching the show but had to check out this episode!) Also, I agree with Froot that the escalating events were mostly down to a very stubborn defence mechanism on Tiffany's part.
January 13, 20169 yr You must have missed the bits where she had to be held back from aggressively confronting a clearly fragile and upset woman, blatantly lying to housemates that Angie specified 'David Gest' when asked to clarify, calling her an "old bitch" after realising she was in fact grieving for her ex-husband and she (Tiffany) had misunderstood, not to mention denying she was in the wrong for hours and continuing to act obnoxiously in Angie's presence... (And that's all from some clips I've seen so there's probably more. I'm not even watching the show but had to check out this episode!) Also, I agree with Froot that the escalating events were mostly down to a very stubborn defence mechanism on Tiffany's part.I saw all of that and and ok yes she could have handled the situation better in some parts but like I said she clearly felt attacked and ganged up by all the other housemates over something that was a complete mistunderstanding so lashed out and snapped back at them . I also don't think she lied intentionally about Angie saying David Gest either as it was in the heat of the moment and she probably just thought she said David Guest as no other David was specified to her. Edited January 13, 20169 yr by troylovesmusic
January 13, 20169 yr I saw all of that and and ok yes she could have handled the situation better in some parts but like I said she clearly felt attacked and ganged up by all the other housemates over something that was a complete mistunderstanding so lashed out and snapped back at them . I also don't think she lied intentionally about Angie saying David Gest either as it was in the heat of the moment and she probably just thought she said David Guest as no other David was specified to her. She was told in the garden (by Daniella I think?) that David Bowie had in fact died and her immediate reaction was to tell everyone that she'd asked Angie if she was talking about David Gest, claiming Angie said she was. That is a lie and she made it intentionally in order to save face as she couldn't calm down, reflect and admit in that moment that she'd got it all wrong. I don't know why you and others are making so many excuses for her. If it was Jeremy or some other lad-type who behaved as Tiffany did I imagine there'd be a very different reaction. :P
January 13, 20169 yr She was told in the garden (by Daniella I think?) that David Bowie had in fact died and her immediate reaction was to tell everyone that she'd asked Angie if she was talking about David Gest, claiming Angie said she was. That is a lie and she made it intentionally in order to save face as she couldn't calm down, reflect and admit in that moment that she'd got it all wrong. I don't know why you and others are making so many excuses for her. If it was Jeremy or some other lad-type who behaved as Tiffany did I imagine there'd be a very different reaction. :PExactly you're just reiterating my point that she was all pent up and legitamatley thought that David Guest had just died in the house that she was not thinking straight and probably just assumed that Angie said and meant David Guest . And it's not about making excuses I just don't think she was comepletly in the wrong and the whole thing was just a big misunderstanding .And actually no if it was Jeremey that done the exact same thing I would be sticking up for him as well ...... Edited January 13, 20169 yr by troylovesmusic
January 13, 20169 yr Exactly you're just reiterating my point that she was all pent up and legitamatley thought that David Guest had just died in the house that she was not thinking straight and probably just assumed that Angie said and meant David Guest . And it's not about making excuses I just don't think she was comepletly in the wrong and the whole thing was just a big misunderstanding .And actually no if it was Jeremey that done the exact same thing I would be sticking up for him as well ...... I wasn't reiterating your point. I was saying that she lied intentionally, something you're excusing her for. And fair enough, I'm just surprised how Tiffany is being let off the hook to such an extent.
January 13, 20169 yr John is absolutely vile. Reminds me of Dan from the Gina series acting all holier than thou. Cannot stand him, the way he just backstabbed Darren was apalling. Edited January 13, 20169 yr by Jack
January 13, 20169 yr I just think Megan seems forced. Like, she screams basic bitch to me. Yes! She think she is Nikki :lol:
January 13, 20169 yr Her, Jeremy, Scotty and Strphanie are so boring. I think Steph would be good without them though ... Maybe.
January 13, 20169 yr Author I knew John would be bad but I didn't expect him to be this bad :/ He is vile, he does come across as a combo of Dan and James and that's really really a terrible combination :/ Yes! She think she is Nikki :lol: Exactly, she's one of those who thinks copying Nikki is a good thing for a housemate, when really any fan can see through it. I found Stephanie trying not to die laughing more funny, you could Megan was faking it and going OTT a bit. Her, Jeremy, Scotty and Strphanie are so boring. I think Steph would be good without them though ... Maybe. I love Steph outside the show and she had such a good start, I hate when decent housemates are ruined by shit company :( I mean tbh I don't hate any of them they're just so bland, especially for people who are known for reality TV.
January 14, 20169 yr I liked the task, it was a very good idea that helped fit the theme of the series. The costumes where great and it's always interesting when the house is divided for a short while. John though, thinks he just rules the house and he knows everything. It's odd to watch, he can come across quite patronising too.
January 14, 20169 yr Ofcom results: According to Ofcom there have been 211 complaints for Tuesday night's episode. '41 complaints over bullying towards Tiffany by other housemates'. '154 complaints that it was in bad taste to televise Angie being told of David Bowie's death'. '16 complaints objecting to Tiffany's hysterical reaction and subsequent aggression around misunderstanding of David Bowie / David Guest death'.
January 14, 20169 yr I'm astounded that there were more complaints regarding John than there were Tiffany!
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