Caught up with last night's and I agree it was excellent, a clear highlight of the series. Though it is such a shame that John Simm's Master was revealed prior as that could've made such a shocking cliffhanger. Bill's scenes were particularly incredible, and I was wrong about the slightly goofy look of the Mondasian Cybermen, the muted pain that they were feeling was, if anything, even scarier than the latest upgrades. I just hope that the impossible can happen and it's concluded well.

 

One thing I didn't know is that this could be it for Bill? :o I'm not fully believing that yet considering how many times she's 'died' this season though.

Edited June 25, 20178 yr by Chez Wombat

 

I don't really see how Bill can escape this though unless they do a rubbish go back in the tardis and stop her and erase everything type of fix, she's already been upgraded.

 

But there again, I don't really understand how she could earlier survive having a huge hole blasted into her either.

 

that epispde was absolutely fantastic, the patients sat in the wards pressing those buttons was one of the most chilling parts of the season. i had proper goosebumps

Just caught up now.

 

I had no idea that the Cybermen would be returning but I was literally screaming to myself all the way through "holy s*** are they making cybermen?" :lol:

From seeing the "Coversion Room" it gave me huge 'The Age of Steel' vibes (or at least I think it was that episode where the Cybermen are converting people) and then all the subtle "upgrade" nods.

 

A very good episode all around and probably my favourite of this series so far. The first few episodes were pretty enjoyable but the 3-parter-ish was empty to me, mostly just a bit of character development for Missy accompanied by a poor executed story about monks and pyramids. Last weeks was a big improvement but still the story felt a bit bland and the Ice Warriors definitely deserved more for their big comeback. All that said... this series has been my favourite in a long time. I did not enjoy a single episode with Clara and Matt Smith gradually became more and more unbearable.

 

Anyways :P Can't wait for next week!

Oh my god!!!

 

Wish I hadn't come in here and read the spoiler about the disguise - I LITERALLY just remembered at the end when he was talking to Missy so that spoiled it a little.

 

That's it for Bill :(

 

Wonder who kills the doctor!!

Just caught up now.

 

I had no idea that the Cybermen would be returning but I was literally screaming to myself all the way through "holy s*** are they making cybermen?" :lol:

From seeing the "Coversion Room" it gave me huge 'The Age of Steel' vibes (or at least I think it was that episode where the Cybermen are converting people) and then all the subtle "upgrade" nods.

 

A very good episode all around and probably my favourite of this series so far. The first few episodes were pretty enjoyable but the 3-parter-ish was empty to me, mostly just a bit of character development for Missy accompanied by a poor executed story about monks and pyramids. Last weeks was a big improvement but still the story felt a bit bland and the Ice Warriors definitely deserved more for their big comeback. All that said... this series has been my favourite in a long time. I did not enjoy a single episode with Clara and Matt Smith gradually became more and more unbearable.

 

Anyways :P Can't wait for next week!

 

Agreed - the Clara episodes were teeerrible, just like the Martha Jones ones. The episode last week was the worst one in years, however, and was literally nonsensical.

 

Omg what an episode. I kind of assumed that Missy would regenerate back into The Master (as Simm) but it makes more sense that it's a past version of him/herself. Can't wait for next week now. :o

Bill :cry:

 

I have no words, I'm gutted. Of course anything could happen next week but it would feel very much like a very cheap exit to get out of it and keep her alive. She's been such a brilliant companion and far, FAR better than I ever thought she would be. So gutted that she went out that way, even though the rumours were there that she would only be here for one series.

 

Definitely the best episode of the series. As Joseph said, it has been a good series overall but this is certainly the first 10/10 episode. Perfectly gripping and so many shocks throughout. The way that it built up of course means that it would have been even MORE enjoyable had we not known about the Cyberman/Master but I can certainly see why they did it because it creates buzz and promotion.

 

It was a great set up and the Hospital scenes in particular were incredibly spooky and exactly what I've been yearning for from Moffat for a long time! I've always found the Cybermen to be a REALLY creepy idea but, maybe because it is so dark?, no one in the new era has really played that out effectively. This was definitely what I've been waiting for in that respect and it's what I thought Moffat would do when I first heard he was becomingthe exec producer.

 

Didn't see that guy being the Master until, as others have said, he met up with Missy and the clues and hints were more evident. Really well played out and a throwback to his disguses in the classic series! Very much looking forward to the Missy/Master interactions!

 

I'm just heartbroken for Bill, especially going out the same way as Danny f***ing Pink. :(

That did it as their ratings were through the floor I reckon so had to leak spoilers.

 

I only realised he was the Master due to having read spoilers here - I had completely forgotten till he met up with her! Then it all clicked and I remembered.

 

Exactly!! :(

 

Also, now two of three of his black companions have been turned into Cybermen!!

Edited June 25, 20178 yr by MoistSummerFruit

Also, was it just me, or was one of the shots through one of the ship's windows (at the start) of the fields seen in Smile? Made me think it was some twist that all the series' adventures had just taken place inside the ship!

Yes, the fields show, as does what looks like the satellite where the doctor goes blind and also the monks in another!! The Scottish hill from last week too!!!!

Edited June 25, 20178 yr by MoistSummerFruit

Oooo will be very interesting to see if there's a reason for all that then, I hope so!! Perhaps Bill Pptts isn't actually all she seems (which, again, I would actually be disappointed by)

I'M IN TWO MINDS. i don't want bill to go just bc i love her, but i hope there isn't a rlly cringe way of saving her

Also, now two of three of his black companions have been turned into Cybermen!!

 

If you're including Danny Pink as a companion than I think you really ought to consider Mickey one too, so that's only a 50% conversion rate.

Yes I counted Mikey. It's 75% as Mikey was thr only one who wasn't converted. The othrr teo black companions, Danny and Bill, were!!

Yes I counted Mikey. It's 75% as Mikey was thr only one who wasn't converted. The othrr teo black companions, Danny and Bill, were!!

Oh I forgot qbout that beige bitch.

 

But it is still 65% as she WAS converted into a Cyberman in her first episode anyway.

Oh I forgot qbout that beige bitch.

 

But it is still 65% as she WAS converted into a Cyberman in her first episode anyway.

omg of course!!! I'm not sure how I feel about this :mellow:

Oh I forgot qbout that beige bitch.

 

But it is still 65% as she WAS converted into a Cyberman in her first episode anyway.

Except that wasn't actually Martha herself.

 

As an addition wasn't there a cyber girlfriend in Torchwood who was black?

Not Bill :cry: Anyone but Bill :cry: Although like Lotti said, I don't want them to have a really cringe fix and save her.