You obviously have to factor in personality but I do think giving a -1 to Tyra is focusing SOLELY on her personality off stage. She had some really good moments on the show, same for Laganja. Solely basing your rating on how a queen acts on Untucked isn't really a very balanced viewing.

 

I'm pissed I forgot to vote, I just know I'd give out very few 0s or -1s unless it was for people who showed absolutely nothing of quality, aka Venus D-Lite, Penny, Alisa etc. Naysha getting 0s indicates she showed zero talent and I just think some of the rating is a bit harsh just for the sake of it, but maybe that's just because I've learnt to watch Drag Race with respect for all drag queens and I don't really like to throw hate.

 

Expecting the likes of Lashawun Beyond, Vivacious, maybe Derrick Barry given the skewing of hate figures. Phi Phi might have done enough recently to escape as much of it but idk.

The 0's don't mean zero talent though. It's not 'rate the queens on talent out of 10'.

You're seeing it that way as you'd interpret it that way but the rate is open to interpretation.

I guess that's a fair argument, I'd just have assumed that's how most people watch Drag Race, as a showcase of talent.

67th Roxxxy Andrews: 4.8

Highest Scores: 8.5 (Leonardo, Jimmy), 8 (Cucumberella, Lukuzz), 7.5 (Davidson, Aled), 7 (Simon)

Lowest Scores: -1 (Martyn, LexC, Oliver), 0 (Mackenzie), 2 (Joe)

67th Derrick Barry: 4.8

Highest Scores: 11 (Oliver), 8 (Joe), 7 (Kye, Simon)

Lowest Scores: -1 (Jimmy), 0 (LexC), 3 (100, Mackenzie, Davidson)

66th Gia Gunn: 4.83

Highest Scores: 10 (Simon), 8.5 (Jimmy, Lukuzz), 7 (Cucumberella, Leonardo, Aled)

Lowest Scores: -1 (Davidson, LexC), 1 (Mackenzie), 2 (Kye)

65th Phi Phi O’Hara: 4.87

Highest Scores: 11 (Kye), 8.5 (Jimmy), 8 (Simon), 7 (Cucumberella, Martyn)

Lowest Scores: -1 (Oliver, LexC, Mackenzie), 2.5 (Lukuzz)

 

Okay now we've got a big cluster of queens who divide opinion throughout the DR community. All of which unsurprisingly got some great really high scores, and not just one or 2, but also got just as many bad ones.

 

In joint 67th we have Roxxxy Andrews, and Derrick Barry. Hypocrite alert, after complaining that some queens should have been higher I've given Derrick a -1. Well soz y'all but I was bitter and hateful okay, and still believe she way outlasted her welcome on the show. Don't get me wrong, she has her obvious talents. She's a great Britney impersonator, she must be to make a living off of it, and her Snatch Game was good. She also shone in the hate campaign challenge where her and Bob cruised to victory, surpassing anyone else's attempts. However for the amount of challanges she took part in, she really struggled at so many of them, and imo there were times (before snatch) when she should have been in the bottom 2, and I feel got a free pass because she was known before the show. As for Roxxxy Andrews, I'm surprised and I'm not to see her this low. I did find her weird vendetta against Jinkx on the show very uncomfortable to watch at times, it just seemed so unnecessary, and over nothing. Like with Sharon and Phi Phi for example, although Phi Phi was far more vocal, and hateful of the fued, you got the impression the feeling was mutual; where as, at least from what was aired, it didn't seem like Jinkx wronged or had anything against Roxxxy, and Roxxxy, maybe because she thought she was the competition, just wanted to tear her down. Whatever the personal opinion on Roxxxy is, there is no denying she is a fierce queen, which she showed a lot on the show. She did an outstanding job on all the sowing challenges, the colourful liquorice dress thing she made at the Sugar Ball remains one of my favourite things any queen has made in a design challenge; the wig under a wig in the incredible lip sync with Alyssa; Tamar Braxton Snatch Game was hilarious, not to mention other successes; so for that she got plus points for that.

 

Just got off the boat, fresh tilapia, Gia Gunn is next. When Gia entered the work room, I expected her to go far, I had her pegged top 5 or 6 for sure, unfortunately what followed after that was alright at best with Gia no really excelling in any of the challenges she was present for. Her Kim K Snatch Game was particularly bad, which inevitably saw Laganja send her home in week 5. Her runway never really appealed to me either, but where I think Gia excelled the most in the season was her personality. A bit like Laganja, she was very irritating at times, but while she was there she had an impact, and made the season more enjoyable to watch from a viewers point of view, and in 5 episodes had a great amount of catch phrases and moments, which made her memorable: Absoluteeeeeeeeeelyyyyy; I'm feeling my oats, let me feel my oats. Since leaving the show Gia has joined the infamous Haus of Edwards, and is continuing to tour the world with Laganja in her #TooMuchTour. Make that money girl.

 

And finally we have the Phi Phi O'Hara. If we're basing this on the show, I kind of understand Phi Phi's low placing, although at the end of the season she did great, there was a period at the beginning/middle where she struggled, and I think she was very lucky not to get put up for elimination in week 5 for her Lady Gaga Snatch Game, but after that girl stepped it up big time, and did really well after, and although I think Latrice deserved top 3 more, I couldn't even begrudge Phi Phi of it, she did earn it. She was the first queen really universally hated for her antics on the show, picking fights with pretty much everyone, but slowly I think she's pulling people round with her work since leaving the show. She's currently in the middle of her 365 days of drag, which pretty much explains itself, and is becoming somewhat of the cosplay queen of us all (sorry Dax). I'm finding it all fierce af, and I've gained so much respect for her as an artist as I've been checking it out; she might be one of the most talented at the drag element on it the shows ever had, these days. She also just got engaged to her boyfriend, so congratulations to her on that one.

i can't

 

Phi Phi has been fantastic since the show, hoping she redeems herself somewhat on All Stars :( I'll always love Gia, but I do get why she divides opinion. Derrick doesn't have much to offer so fair enough on that front. Roxxxy should be a bit higher but she wasn't great, a few good looks aside.

 

Seems a bit odd seeing people like Lashauwn and Laila being higher than these finalists though, as much as I like the latter, she didn't get to offer that much to vote on.

has lexc given anyone more than 2 so far, such a hater

gia :( as if i didn't give her more than a 7 !

Love me some Phi Phi

also i agree w rob mostly. it's not rupaul's best friend race as we ALL know.

I completely get Gia and Derrick's low placings as they were pretty useless on the show and haven't shown much since that says otherwise (although I suppose time will tell with Derrick, decent job make up wise anyway).

 

Roxxy and Phi Phi however should definitely not be that low. They may have been DR's biggest ever c**ts but they are actually great at what they do. Roxxy had so many amazing moments on the show (liquorice dress, wig reveal in lip sync) and whilst Phi Phi didn't really have highs of such a standard she has been fantastic since the show and her 365 days of drag is one of the best things any of the queens have taken part in since drag race, she really is an incredible artist.

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64th Nicole Paige Brooks: 4.88

Highest Scores: 8 (152Chris), 7 (Jimmy, Oliver, Cucumberella)

Lowest Scores: 0 (Davidson), 1 (Mackenzie), 1.5 (Martyn)

63rd Vivacious: 4.97

Highest Scores: 9 (152Chris), 7 (100)

Lowest Scores: 2 (Martyn), 3 (LexC)

 

Now we have some less controversial eliminations :lol: Both of whom didn't pick up anywhere near as high of scores, but low ones were significantly higher.

 

At 64th we have Nicole Paige Brooks, from Atlanta, GEORGIA! Very lovable queen from S2 that we only got for 2 episodes :( Incredibly hopeless though, but all the more adorable for it, as Nicole didn't really make a statement in either of her challenges. She did however win over the fans and has become somewhat of a mini fan favourite mainly due to her ability to laugh at her Drag Race performance, and her passion for it. Otherwise they're isn't really much to say as we did only get to see her for 2 episodes, but her pole dancing was hilarious in week 2, and her performance in her lip sync against Raven was decent, but unfortunately Raven annihilated her.

 

Pause while I find the zipper!... ... ...MUTHA...has arrived! The last queen to fail to get an average of over 50% is Vivacious. Most known for that iconic entrance #OrnaciaRealWinnerofSeason6. Vivacious lasted until week 3 (2 really) in season 6, lip syncing twice, and being eliminated by April Carrion to Selena Gomez's Shake It Up. I found Vivacious a fascinating queen, her spiked runway look was so unique and original, Drag Race hasn't had a queen like her, and part of me wishes she'd stuck around longer so we the viewers could have got to see more of her unique style, and her influences. I think the old style culture she represented on the show would have been great for the younger audiences to see, as it is part of our gay heritage, if that makes sense? But unfortunately it wasn't to be, and the club kid left early. Still we will always be grateful for the greatest DR gift of all time Viv, Ornacia :wub: :wub:

I just still can't believe Nicole Paige Brooks got on it, she's the most blatant case of "man in drag whilst trying to look fishy" there's been. But she's somehow all the more loveable for it.

2 of the greats tbh

62nd Jade Sotomayor: 5

Highest Scores: 8 (Jimmy), 7 (Davidson)

Lowest Scores: 0 (152Chris), 3 (Lukuzz)

61st Laila McQueen: 5.13

Highest Scores: 8 (Jimmy), 7 (Davidson, Kye, Oliver, Cucumberella)

Lowest Scores: 0 (LexC, 152Chris)

 

The first queen to score an average of 5 or greater is season 1's Jade Sotomayor. Jade was eliminated in week 4 in controversial fashion Rebecca Glasscock's previously mentioned, aggressive approach. Jade didn't really set the competition alight while there, and did seem to fall in the middle often; and probably most remembered for being called out more than once for her meaty tuck, which was often visable. She did come across a very hard working, pleasant queen in the work room though, staying out of the bitching and fighting, despite taking on larger work loads in group challenges, though it did appear like she was being swallowed up by the biggest characters. Since leaving the show however, and as the year's have gone by, she's developed into a fierce queen, and really looks stunning, so if y'all haven't seen, I'd recommend checking her out. Score wise here, she did well, getting a couple of high scores, and 8 from me, and a 7 from Davidson, but in as season 1 got the fewest amount of rates, the 0 did more damage, I'm afraid. Didn't expect her to finish this high though, so pleasantly surprised!

 

Then just missing a spot in the top 60 we have another of my baes from season 8, Laila McQueen. I absolutely love Laila, she's such a weirdo and I love her for it. She's also insanely funny, and I'm sad we didn't get to see that on the show, because I think she had the potential to do really well. She gets labeled an Adore knock off sometimes, and while their basic aesthetic might be similar, I don't see it tbh, I think there is more to her than a basic Adore wannabe. On Drag Race, she lasted 2 weeks, lip syncing both times, before being part of that infamous double elimination to the disaster that was the I Will Survive lip sync; that was a shame, and I was really sad to see her go, because I was a fan right from MTQs and I was really routing for her. The challenges were varied, she did struggle in the acapella challenge, but in week 1, idc what Ru, Michelle, or anyone says; that post apopolopic couture was FIERCE. I mean she made a blazer, from scratch, and appaz those boots were a cop out for the bottom half, but I'm calling bullshit tbh, it worked together as a look, and she took me to fierce general bitch in the zombie apocalypse. Plus a certain other queen wore the exact same boots in a later runway as the bottom part to their ensemble and the judges gagged...*insert Oprah gif* So what is the truth? whatever though, I ain't bitter <_< Results wise, laila did okay, good amount of 7s, though 2 0s pull her average down to just above 5

Yeah, Laila definitely works better off the show, I don't she was best suited to showing what works for her on the show. I'm so disappointed she went out on such a dramatic lip sync because she's SUCH a fantastic lip syncer, people will now have the wrong impression of her when she's actually great.

I defiantely think I was too harsh to give Ganj a -1, even though she was a hot mess, she was very entertaining and her heart was never in a bad place.

 

While talent does obviously come into it, for me the rate is 'rate who you like' not just 'rate by talent', and a lot of different things come into it. I didn't like Tyra back in 2010 when I first watched her on the show and I like her less now, part of being a Rupaul winner is being a role model and this kind of talk is just unacceptable, so I don't feel the need to defend giving Tyra low scores. Why would you tell Michelle Visage to kill herself? :drama:

 

I think this is why Jinkx has always been my favourite Queen, because she's a great blend of talent and a really loveable and relatable personality.

 

On to the rate though McQueen really didn't serve it, I found her quite forgettable, Jade was okay, Vivacious I felt just wasn't right for the show, Nicole was the opposite of fish.

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60th Acid Betty: 5.17

Highest Scores: 9 (Davidson), 8.5 (Jimmy, Lukuzz), 8 (Leonardo), 7 (Cucumberella)

Lowest Scores: -1 (Oliver, Joe), 2 (100)

59th Darienne Lake: 5.2

Highest Scores: 10 (Leonardo), 9 (Joe), 8 (Jimmy, Lukuzz), 7 (Cucumberella)

Lowest Scores: -1 (152Chris, Martyn), 2 (LexC), 3 (Davidson)

57th Robbie Turner: 5.23

Highest Scores: 7 (Joe, Leonardo, Martyn)

Low Scores: -1 (LexC)

57th Lashauwn Beyond: 5.23

Highest Scores: 8 (152Chris, Jimmy, Oliver, Joe)

Lowest Scores: 1.5 (Martyn), 2 (Simon), 3 (Kye, Mackenzie)

 

Kicking off the top 60 is the "bitch" of season 8 Acid Betty. Personally, I'd have liked to have seen Betty higher. Don't get me wrong, while the season was airing I hated her just like everyone else, but even then I could admit, she left way too soon, even if I was happy to see the back of her. Her runways were always spectacular, possibly the one of the greatest artists to ever be on Drag Race, and I think had she not been on the same season as Kim Chi, she might have gotten more credit for that. She also did great in all the challenges, except Snatch Game, and was top 3 almost every week. I'm still shocked she didn't make top 3. Since the show has aired, several queens have come to the defense of Betty, Cynthia stating she came and looked after her after her liver cancer diagnosis; showing maybe we shouldn't believe everything the TV tells us. Love or Loathe her, she's an incredible queen, who does deserve credit for her sheer artistry, she completely stole the show at the reunion, not bad for a 5th week eliminee. Score wise, unsurprisingly she got lots of great scores, but really low ones too, so an average of just above 5 is all Betty can muster up unfortunately.

 

Next is 4th placed queen from season 6, Darienne Lake. Like Betty, Darienne gets some great scores here a 10 from Leonardo, and a 9 from Joe, got her off to a great start, though the -1s pulled Miss Lake's average right down to 5.2. I kind of get the the dismay towards Darienne though tbh. Don't get me wrong, I think she's great, and did well on Drag Race, but I for one was surprised to see her last as long as she did; and I certainly didn't expect her to make top 4 ahead of Dela. the Dela fued was probably her biggest impact on that season, something which just stemmed from bitterness I think, after Dela got off to such a strong start. But Darienne did show what a great queen she is in acting and comedy challenges, where she really excelled. Design challenges were a different matter, and I will forever remember Darienne for the worst performance in the 3 runway looks challenge, as all were pretty terrible; however she made up for her short comings in challenges, by absolutely slaying the lip syncs she was in, and sending Magnolia and Bendela home.

 

Then in joint 57th we have season 8's Robbie Turner, and season 4's Lashauwn Beyond. Both of these queens didn't really pick up massive scores, but did well at avoiding lots of really low ones which sees them get a decent average. We only got to see Lashauwn for 2 episodes in season 4, and she hasn't been all that present since, so it's hard to say much. After her great performance being 2nd to Sharon Needles week 1, I was shocked to see her eliminated the following week, as she had set herself up to do well, however her timid personality proved her downfall in the end, and despite being a fantastic seamstress, she fell flat in the Wrestling challenge and was given an early exit. Robbie on the other hand lasted half of season 8, and had highs and lows. She did great in the New Wave challenge, winning, and being the shining star of her group with Naomi and Kim. She did however struggle in both design challenges she was present for, the second saw her eliminated after getting slayed by Derrick, though imo, was very lucky not to wind up in the bottom with Naysha in week 1 after that little white carpet mess of an outfit. She did give us one of my favourite lip sync performances of the season though, sending home Cynthia in week 3, Robbie blew up in a lip sync to mesmerized byt Faith Evans, after opting to perform in skates, the whole thing was great, the jump of the stage, the spins, the broken light bulb. Fierce af.

Urgh, Acid Betty was so horrible, and beyond that one brilliant look that to me, looked like she was repeating somewhat (apart from Madonna) she showed on her Snatch Game that she really didn't have much to offer. The way she came for Trixie when Kim was having an emotional moment just showed a real lack of class and bad sportsmanship.

 

I liked Robbie Turnter, she had a lot to offer but obviously had confidence issues and didn't manage to show everything she had. I find Miss Lake quite underrated, her comedy was always on point for me and her make up was amazing. Her looks however, were crap.

 

I don't remember giving Lawshauwn an 8, but if I did that was a mistake! I wouldn't have had her higher than a 6 if I'd put the right score in.

I must admit I've warmed to Betty a lot more since the show has finished, IDK part of me thinks she went in thinking if she played the nasty queen card she'd last ages, ala Phi Phi and Roxxxy, and it completely backfired. IDK the Trixie thing was awful and uncomfortable to watch, so maybe she is horrid. The Snatch Game was indeed atrocious.

When Acid Betty went, I was happy. The week after Acid Betty went, I realised the show was definitely missing something without her and I realise I should've appreciated her while she was around.

 

Darienne, I'm 'eh' about, I don't think her staying so long did her any favours and probably made people dislike her more. Robbie, I prefer out of drag with his quick lines than I do his actual drag and the dodgy hairlines. Lashauwn, eh, aside from the iconic "RuPaul's Best Friend Race" line, I don't think offered much to be this high.