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With this information, it is likely a best of collection. It will be interesting to see what singles they leave off the the edition. It will be interesting to see if it will be all the big hits and the flops left out or will it be the singles they like the best themselves.

From the last greatest hits in 2005 'Do What U Like' was the only single omitted.

 

It's been so long since anyone released a greatest hits I'm not too sure how many songs would go on it especially over 25 years and with 3 new songs. Seeing as this is a Best of collection having gone all around international iTunes certain songs have cropped up consistently within top 10 best sellers nation to nation.

 

Top 5 by far:

 

Back For Good, Rule The World, Patience, The Flood and How Deep Is Your Love (definitely underestimated by myself the sheer global reach of this single high up in all continents especially North and South America and Africa iTunes - frequent top 3-5 these continents).

 

High up all over the world other songs which appeared quite often on the itunes bestsellers from glancing in no particular order are:

 

Shine,

Pray,

A Million Love Songs,

Could It Be Magic,

These Days,

Never Forget,

Babe,

Relight My Fire,

Get Ready For It

 

These songs below weren't particularly high up or certainly enough to hold a strong reoccurring impression but some had mixed popularity

 

Contrasting in popularity songs below - Up and down across all countries

 

Giants - I think being featured in the carpool karaoke helped this song in popularity in far off places but not as high overall or consistent as songs mentioned above

Love Ain't Here Anymore - Overall quite down but interestingly very popular across Asian counties as in top 10 iTunes bestsellers frequently.

Love Love - 50/50 in global popularity. High some places less so others. Quite high in Europe and Africa.

It Only Takes a Minute - semi popular but often behind those mentioned above and not top 10.

Kidz - Showed up highest on European store best sellers rather than any internationally but never top 10.

Greatest Day - hit and miss in international popularity.

Said It All - As above but more visible than Up All Night and frequently higher than that single.

Cry - Hit and miss.

The Garden - Hit and miss and only seen on European iTunes bestsellers and never high except in Denmark.

 

Rarely seen

 

Everything Changes (possibly always in top 20 but Robbie factor hasn't pushed this higher up in iTunes popularity across nation to nation than I would have thought and only always found after a little scroll down of country best sellers)

Do What U Like - As above but very hit and miss

Sure,

Why Can't I Wake Up With You,

Up All Night,

I'd Wait For Life,

Reach Out,

Hold Up a Light,

Happy Now,

When We Were Young - Interestingly highest top 5 on USA iTunes of group bestsellers and just below Get Ready For It. Only nation it's high and visible on bestsellers.

Promises,

Once You've Tasted Love,

I Found Heaven,

Let in the Sun,

Higher than Higher,

Hey Boy - Though interestingly their highest iTunes digital seller in Bahamas so is loved on that island!

Edited by nirvanamusic

Get Ready for It is a song i can see failing to make the list, Cry i would also debate, had it not made the deluxe version on the last album it would most likely have made the cut on the Greatest Hits.

 

I would believe the following a cert to make the list:

A Million Love Songs

Pray

Relight My Fire

Back For Good

Never Forget

Patience

Shine

Rule The World

Greatest Day

The Flood

These Days.

 

Strong Possibilities:

Everything Changes

Could It Be Magic

It Only Takes A Minute

Love Aint Here Anymore

Said It All

Love Love

Giants

Babe

 

Not so Sure:

Up All Night (if my choice, it would certainly make the album)

Why Cant I Wake Up With you

How Deep Is Your Love

Sure

Kidz

 

 

Likely to be Left Out

Do What You Like

Once You've Tasted Love

Promises

I Found Heaven

ID Wait For Life

When We Were Young

Let In The Sun

Get Ready For It

 

 

 

 

The new Greatest Hits needs to lean more to the 2006 era and onwards.

 

Any guesses on what they will call it, id like Rule The World: The Best of Take That.

2006 onwards I think their best has been (going off singles)

 

Rule The World

Patience

The Flood

Said it All

Shine

Greatest Day (not a favourite with myself though)

Love Love

Kidz

These Days

Giants (? Am unsure)

 

That's 10 with 3-4 new songs added also. I feel like a 2006 great hit vol 2 would be better than an all years mix greatest hits. Separate the two eras however if it's a mix I think it should be 50/50 90s and 00s. This is also because they were far more well known back in the 90s all over the world and so 50% 90's would be fair seeing as any album or collection it is hoped would sell all over the world.

 

I think Rule The World is a perfect title just as Never Forget was in the relaunch greatest hits

 

PS - on a random note I came across an old article (2011) where the Chinese government had banned over 100 songs mostly Chinese or Taiwanese but a few Western artists also Lady Gaga, Britney, Backstreet Boys and Take That had four songs on the banned list 'The Flood', 'When We Were Young', 'Love Love' and 'Pretty Things'. I wouldn't have had those four TT songs down as being particularly threatening or any Take That song for that matter.

Hopefully it's been overturned now and Chinese fans can enjoy those four songs.

Edited by nirvanamusic

They could easily do a 2CD deluxe version of the Greatest Hits or best of compilation. They have so many songs to choose from now.
They have more than enough material,maybe a release like kylie did with the ultimate collection and almost all the singles on it but they can call it something else.

I would totally be behind a double CD and having all singles on the album. CD 1 the 2006 onwards and CD 2 the older material. I also would welcome a stand alone version of 2006 onwards material.

 

From a marketing point of view all singles wont be included,as further down the line, a release will be done with everything. Generally this is how it seems to work with these style of releases.

 

For this tour the band are touring as well as Australia and New Zealand in November they are also playing in UAE (Dubai) and Israel (Tel Aviv) later that month. I think this is amazing for those local fans outside the EU to finally get to go to a TT show and not feel they have been forgotten or neglected especially as TT have been around (give or take) 25 years. They've waited and asked for long enough!!!

 

Lots of excitement for those reasons on social media from those touring announcements. They just need to think about North & South America and Africa at some point to go to their fans on those continents and give them that oppourtunity.

If they are planning a World Tour in a few years with the Greatest Hits going out to these places now before hand is always good as it acts as a pre-curser and can build more interest for a return later on. You have to be seen to be heard type of thing as even in a social media world being physically there and touring is still the most effective way. It shows a group is making the effort still and coming out to reach their fans further afield.

 

This would mean that in recent years they've travelled touring shows to Europe, Asia, Australasia and the Middle East!

Edited by nirvanamusic

For this tour the band are touring as well as Australia and New Zealand in November they are also playing in UAE (Dubai) and Israel (Tel Aviv) later that month. I think this is amazing for those local fans outside the EU to finally get to go to a TT show and not feel they have been forgotten or neglected especially as TT have been around (give or take) 25 years. They've waited and asked for long enough!!!

 

Lots of excitement for those reasons on social media from those touring announcements. They just need to think about North & South America and Africa at some point to go to their fans on those continents and give them that oppourtunity.

If they are planning a World Tour in a few years with the Greatest Hits going out to these places now before hand is always good as it acts as a pre-curser and can build more interest for a return later on. You have to be seen to be heard type of thing as even in a social media world being physically there and touring is still the most effective way. It shows a group is making the effort still and coming out to reach their fans further afield.

 

This would mean that in recent years they've travelled touring shows to Europe, Asia, Australasia and the Middle East!

 

 

I just wish they would at least do a show in the US. Just one is enough for me. It doesn't have to be a big show, just them and the band would be enough for us US fans. New York, LA I don't care. Just come and I'll fly there.

I found a great website out of curiosity called setlist which lists all concerts by artists through their years and out of interest these are all countries Take That have done a full concert in if anyone interested:

 

TAKE THAT (In brackets first year Take That concert in that country)

 

AFRICA:

 

No countries as yet

 

ASIA:

 

Indonesia (1995)

Japan (1995)

Singapore (1995)

Taiwan (2007)

Thailand (1995)

 

AUSTRALASIA:

 

Australia (1995)

New Zealand (2017)

 

EUROPE:

 

Austria (1995)

Belgium (1994)

Denmark (1994)

Finland (1994)

France (2008)

Germany (1994)

Ireland (1993)

Italy (1995)

Jersey (2017)

Netherlands (1994)

Spain (2007)

Sweden (1994)

Switzerland (1995)

UK (1992)

 

MIDDLE EAST:

 

Israel (2017)

UAE (2015)

 

NORTH AMERICA:

 

Mexico (1993)

 

SOUTH AMERICA:

 

No countries as yet

 

Top 5 countries by most concerts Take That

 

1.UK

2.Germany

3=Ireland/Italy

4.Australia

5.Netherlands

 

It seems they have strong requests on social media in terms of nations looking for a first time TT concert in their country mainly from US, Canada, Chile, Portugal, Romania, Poland, Russia, Peru, Paraguay, South Africa, Argentina and Brazil the most.

 

I looked at some other big boybands and some like Backstreet Boys really have been all over the world multiple times even playing small countries like Latvia, Lithuania and Estonia etc. They have played lots of countries across all the continents and although TT ended up global I wish they too were as driven to go out to these places.

The willingness in recent years from Take That however is a good start from them.

 

So in terms of touring since the reunion 2005 (12 years) by nations:

 

First 6 years (05-11): UK, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Denmark, Taiwan, Switzerland, Austria, Spain, France (11 nations)

 

Last 6 years (12-17): UK, Germany, Jersey, Denmark, UAE, Ireland, Italy, Netherlands, Switzerland, Austria, Thailand, Singapore, Australia, New Zealand, Israel (15 nations)

 

Take That may not have done a lot of international concerts as yet however they did a lot of traveling overseas instead for TV promotion appearances. This was their promo schedule in the 90's outside of the UK on foreign TV shows/magazine shoots but not any actual concerts. The tours in countries are documented above which nations TT have done concerts. Listed below are national television shows and publications promotion trips.

 

1992

 

France, Spain, Germany

 

1993

 

January: Germany and Sweden

February: USA and Canada

March: Taiwan and Japan

April: Spain, Belgium, Netherlands, Norway and Finland

May: USA and Mexico

September: Japan, South Korea

 

1994

 

January: Belgium, Germany and France

February: Italy

March: Spain, Denmark

April: Italy, Switzerland, Finland and France

June: Japan and Australia

November: Netherlands and Italy

 

1995

 

January: Switzerland, France and Germany

February: Italy

April: Monaco

June: Italy, Germany, France and Spain

October: USA and Canada

 

1996

 

February: Italy

March: Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Spain, Switzerland, Germany, Austria

April: Belgium and the Netherlands

 

2006

 

Spain

 

2007

 

Taiwan, Japan, Germany, Spain, Australia, Italy, Denmark, Netherlands, Switzerland

 

2008

 

Ireland, France, Germany, Spain, Greece

 

2009

 

Netherlands, Italy, Denmark, Germany

 

2010

 

Netherlands, Denmark, Italy, Germany, Sweden

 

2011

 

Denmark, Germany, Italy, France

 

2014

 

Germany, Ireland, Netherlands

 

2015

 

Germany, Italy

 

2016

 

Singapore, Thailand

 

2017

 

USA, Australia

 

Take That have done concerts in 24 countries (I've already included Israel/New Zealand), Westlife 35 nations and Backstreet Boys 55 countries.

Edited by nirvanamusic

Out of curiosity I also looked at Robbie touring through the years and these are all countries Robbie has done a full concert in if anyone interested:

 

ROBBIE WILLIAMS

 

AFRICA:

 

South Africa

 

ASIA:

 

Hong Kong

Japan

Singapore

Taiwan

Thailand

 

AUSTRALASIA:

 

Australia

New Zealand

 

EUROPE:

 

Austria

Belarus

Belgium

Croatia

Czech Republic

Denmark

Estonia

Finland

France

Georgia

Germany

Greece

Hungary

Iceland

Ireland

Italy

Latvia

Lithuania

Monaco

Netherlands

Norway

Poland

Portugal

Romania

Russia

Serbia

Slovakia

Spain

Sweden

Switzerland

UK

 

MIDDLE EAST:

 

Israel

UAE

 

NORTH AMERICA:

 

Canada

Mexico

United States

 

SOUTH AMERICA:

 

Argentina

Brazil

Chile

Edited by nirvanamusic

For the fans they have in America, it would be great if they do something on the tour there as it would be great for the fans.

For the USA and South America argument I've found two great articles on that where someone has actually totalled it up and done market research for it.

 

USA

 

http://www.radiocremebrulee.com/take-that/...-tour-in-the-us

 

South America

 

http://www.radiocremebrulee.com/take-that/...n-south-america

 

Now if only this could be handed to TT management and read...

 

http://www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news...t-band-11248044

 

Luckily this interview says they are wanting to go to South America as well as Russia which would be fantastic and long overdue!

Edited by nirvanamusic

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