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She has several tracks on Spotify so it isn't impossible. Just unlikely. But who knows what might happen.

 

None of them are chart eligible (like the other contestants' performances), so it is impossible as things stand :kink:

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Fine - so I still have no idea what is eligible through streaming and what isn't. I give up.
Fine - so I still have no idea what is eligible through streaming and what isn't. I give up.

It's just the X Factor performances, they were on iTunes instead between 2010 and 2015 and were ineligible there too!

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Fine - so I still have no idea what is eligible through streaming and what isn't. I give up.

Everything is eligible through streaming.

 

Except X Factor recordings from the live shows as X Factor asked to make those chart ineligible (but it's not like they're getting enough streams to chart anyway)

 

If you stream Inspiral Carpets then that WILL count. It's just that they are likely to not get many streams so their chart position will suffer as a result.

I think I know where Richie is getting confused - the people who are saying "song x will have no streaming" are using hyperbole. The song will have streaming, it just won't be very much.

I feel like the top 5 next week will be:

 

Clean Bandit

Louis/Steve Aoki

Mariah Carey

Charity Single

Matt Terry

 

Feel like any of the top 3 could take it (Clean Bandit and Louis being the most likely). I'm gonna wait until the end of the week to see how much Louis is rising on Spotify and how much he is falling on iTunes. I think Clean Bandit could well do it again if his sales lead starts to fall away during the week. 20/1 odds on them are looking very appealing I have to say.

 

Just a quick question with regards to placing bets on this, as I have never done so before.

 

Can you place bets up until the official announcement on the Friday or do they stop taking bets at some point before the mids are released? Just I'm not sure whether to place a bet before the official Christmas week starts or wait until we see a fuller picture?

On Bet365 the books close for Christmas #1 at 18:00 on Friday 16th December, so I imagine it'll be similar for other sites? So before we will see any midweeks, but possibly enough time to see how well the charity singles are performing on iTunes.
I think I know where Richie is getting confused - the people who are saying "song x will have no streaming" are using hyperbole. The song will have streaming, it just won't be very much.

 

Thanks, I think I have it now and didn't know that organisations could request their streams be ineligible (but I bet X Factor still take the money!)

 

I'd been thinking for ages that "no streaming" meant it didn't count.

I've now got £5 on Mariah (at 33/1) and £5 on Clean Bandit (at 20/1) to cover myself. My bets hardly ever come off though so no doubt something else will take it!
Thanks, I think I have it now and didn't know that organisations could request their streams be ineligible (but I bet X Factor still take the money!)

 

I'd been thinking for ages that "no streaming" meant it didn't count.

 

Of course they take the money.. the only reason they are made not eligible is because they didn't want contestants charting before the contest is over. But they've only been getting about 30,000 streams a week anyway.

I think the bookies are completely wrong?! Louis is falling on iTunes and so is Matt.

 

Yet Clean Bandit are as low as 25/1 on some sites and Mariah as low as 33/1!

 

I'm putting my money on both of them. Me and some friends have got £40 so £20 on each. (£520 win if Clean Bandit are #1 and £680 for Mariah)

Ed Sheeran has posted a teaser on his social media, but it's only a plain blue image with no confirmation of anything. Speculation that a single is coming... maybe he'll be the Christmas #1? ;o

 

For now I only have bets on Mariah Carey & Louis Tomlinson. If Ed confirms a single then I may go with him too. *#1 ends up being either Clean Bandit, Matt Terry or a charity single :') *

 

It's certainly going to be an exciting week, it could go so many different ways at this point! Can't remember a Christmas week like this. It's certainly not as clear cut as last year where it only seemed likely to be either Justin Bieber or Lewisham Choir.

Ed Sheeran has posted a teaser on his social media, but it's only a plain blue image with no confirmation of anything. Speculation that a single is coming... maybe he'll be the Christmas #1? ;o

 

For now I only have bets on Mariah Carey & Louis Tomlinson. If Ed confirms a single then I may go with him too. *#1 ends up being either Clean Bandit, Matt Terry or a charity single :') *

 

It's certainly going to be an exciting week, it could go so many different ways at this point! Can't remember a Christmas week like this. It's certainly not as clear cut as last year where it only seemed likely to be either Justin Bieber or Lewisham Choir.

 

Ha. I've long said that if Ed was to release a single on Xmas week he'd easily go straight in at No.1.

 

But would he want to go against the X Factor track that he wrote?

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Ed wouldn't challenge for the christmas #1 himself surely? that must've been part of the deal for X Factor to use his songwriting talent.
It certainly seems like it'd be a conflict of interest, hmm. I look forward to finding out what Ed has to confirm!
Last week I put money on Mariah and Little Mix, at this point it seems Little Mix haven't received a big enough boost so relying on Mariah to come through for me. I do think she's being underestimated by the bookies though. I'll be surprised if she isn't top 3!
Last week I put money on Mariah and Little Mix, at this point it seems Little Mix haven't received a big enough boost so relying on Mariah to come through for me. I do think she's being underestimated by the bookies though. I'll be surprised if she isn't top 3!

Can you do the cash out thing for Little Mix?

How much of a Spotify boost did Mariah recieve last Christmas week? Like do we know how much the song increased? If it is not at least a jump of about another 100% on top of what she is streaming now there is no way she would do it. In fact shes fallen back down to #6 today.
I think the bookies are completely wrong?! Louis is falling on iTunes and so is Matt.

 

Yet Clean Bandit are as low as 25/1 on some sites and Mariah as low as 33/1!

 

I'm putting my money on both of them. Me and some friends have got £40 so £20 on each. (£520 win if Clean Bandit are #1 and £680 for Mariah)

 

I'm tempted to have a nibble on Clean Bandit but surely Mariah's downloads aren't going to be high enough even if she does climb to #1 on streams (which I don't think will happen either)

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