Posted October 17, 200618 yr whos going see the grudge 2 when it comes out? i'm goin see it on saturday, the first one scared the c**p outta me, its the only scary film that i cant watch on my own and i even turn away at some parts! are there any trailers for it uploaded somewhere yet?
October 17, 200618 yr This ones recieved god awful reviews 7% positive i think, but im still gonna see it. Then i'll watch the departed afterwards to make me feel better again
October 17, 200618 yr I haven't even seen the first one yet. :lol: But i've seen Scary Movie 4 so yeah I guess that gives me a good picture of what happens in it. Nah I doubt i'll get round to seeing it but I saw the trailer ages ago and well it just about told me what happens in half the film in 4 minutes. :(
October 17, 200618 yr It looks pointless and rather $h!t to me I didn't like the first one either :( Yeah your right about that mate. :lol: I kinda gather that it just has the same plot outline as the first one minus the charchters from the first one.
October 18, 200618 yr The two Japanese films are utterly fantastic, strange, bizarre, frightening, because it's what you dont see (and what you see very briefly..) in these films that makes you sh!t yourself. Shimzu's original films hold certain things back, and you kind of barely see what's really going on which just makes it even more scary... The use of non-diegetic sound in the original films is also quite astonishing and eerily effective... His retread for the US market was badly scripted (of course Shimzu himself never actually wrote the script for the remake, it was written by an American, and it shows...), lacked any real depth and was very unsubtle... And for a film set in Japan, where the hell were all the Japanese??? It's like they were all invisible, bar ONE solitary Japanese copper who was in it for about five minutes....; even "Lost In Translation" gave you a better insight into Japanese culture... From what I've heard about this one, it's just a jumbled mess. Attempting to cross timelines and mess with the temporal structure like the Japanese films did, but apparently is done with very little care or thought... It's hard to believe that Shimzu himself is involved in basically buggering up his own creation, sad really....
October 19, 200618 yr The two Japanese films are utterly fantastic, strange, bizarre, frightening, because it's what you dont see (and what you see very briefly..) in these films that makes you sh!t yourself. hey dude, which two ones are you talking about? the original original one and the first proper theatrical version or just both the ones in the cinema? as i heard that the 2nd jap film one was not that good. and to think its about his 97th remake of the film :lol:
October 19, 200618 yr My mum saw the american one in the cinema (she didn't know it was a remake or anything) and said it was rubbish.
October 19, 200618 yr My mum saw the american one in the cinema (she didn't know it was a remake or anything) and said it was rubbish. does she like these types of films?
October 20, 200618 yr hey dude, which two ones are you talking about? the original original one and the first proper theatrical version or just both the ones in the cinema? as i heard that the 2nd jap film one was not that good. and to think its about his 97th remake of the film :lol: The "Ju On: Grudge 2" that I'm talking about is the one that I've had on Region 3 DVD for about a year and a half before it ever got a UK cinema release.... :lol: Shimizu is really starting to p*** me off to be honest, he just seems to make variations on the same film constantly.... Get a new idea!!!!! <_<
October 22, 200618 yr Author i went see it yesterday and it wasnt that bad, the first one was better tho and it still scared the c**p outta me :blush:
October 22, 200618 yr Author oh, and i'd just like to thank the group of chavs that were sat behind me talking all the way thru the film. And a big thank you specially to the chav that was sat behind me with her feet on me chair.....everytime she jumped, my chair jumped, which made me jump even more :angry:
October 23, 200618 yr Well, to be honest, I actually found this to be more like his Japanese films than the pretty lousy first US "Grudge" film which just seemed like a very standard, linear horror. The messing around with timelines and narrative structure (which has always been an important part of the films..) is far more pronounced here, the fact that there are no real 'big names' (save for Sarah Michelle Gellar, who thankfully only has a cameo this time...) in the film helps as well so the focus goes away from just one major character onto a group of characters, again, another feature of the original Japanese films. Shimizu also seems to have gotten his capability to actually create a mood and atmosphere back as well and there are actually a few genuinely terrifying moments (the bit in the headmistresses office when the Alison's friends come back to life SERIOUSLY creeped me out), the startling use of sound was also back to the standards of the Japanese originals... Okay, so now for the bad points - one or two plot elements (one of which is VERY vital..) are made so blatantly obvious I was smacking my head in disbelief at how obvious they made it, if the ending was supposed to be a 'surprise twist', then frankly anyone with half a brain is gonna figure it out half-way through; Shimizu was NEVER this obvious in any of his Japanese films. Secondly, the frequency of Kayako's 'sudden' appearances just rendered her rather pointless and unscary. Less is more, look at "Ringu" where all you ever see of Sadako for much of the film is in very infrequent short cuts, which makes her longer appearance at the end more terrifying... But all in all, not as c**p as I'd feared it would be, and I feel it was less 'Hollywood' than the first one, but please Mr Shimizu, NO MORE GRUDGE FILMS, please do something different now...
October 24, 200618 yr i went see it yesterday and it wasnt that bad, the first one was better tho all i have to say is: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d1/AKebbel.jpg Kebbel, keeping up her quality :lol: :lol: !!!! actaully i lost track of the plot because i was thinking about the killer toilet from Reeker :lol: the film could have been transfered anywhere for all the sake of it's Japaneseness, not like Lost In Translation where the city becomes a major chacter in its own right. probs the only part that was totally Japanese was the Love Hotel. however i think it would have been better if they did Japanese techno stuff by having a karaoke toilet, you know one thats electronic and you can set to play music. so the script would go: Edison Chen "and this is a special karaoke toliet... (Edison points to button) this button brings on Utada, whilst this button sets it to the pizzicato five" Arielle Kebbel "and what does this button do?" Edison Chen "It Kills!!!" actaully i think i would have liked it better if her Kebbelness was in the kind of Japanese film thats more like the Calamari Wrestler or Executive Koala, and have the killer toilet chase her down the high street with big comedy fangs on the seat. could go out on mondo macabra label then :yahoo: fyi: this is Reeker, the thread starts here http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s...08entry487108
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