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Why would I trust a super fan who doesn't want to believe anything other than omg soooo goooood? :wub: :lol: I made some points of SUBSTANCE, which YOU haven't responded to. You just went ad hominem instead, which LACKS substance. How do you think promoting and saying an album is the best ever and totally unique helped, especially when said album was then BTW and Artpop? Surely this would um TURN PEOPLE OFF IT? And we brought RECEIPTS aboot Judas. Actual RECEIPTS. Did you? No? Oh. Substance, substance, who has the substance, my money's on the Monqueef!

 

You know f*** all about me so how on earth do you know I'm not critical of her? :lol: What an utterly invalid non-point.

 

How is you MOANING AGAIN, this time about Born This Way not being the album of the decade anything of substance? Are you high? And going all OTT by saying "it nearly killed her career" even though BTW is one of the biggest things she's ever done? Again, not substance, just troll like bullshit

 

In regards to Judas - you linked to a Steps live performance which sounded like shite. The fact you think that is you providing receipts is just embarrassing :lol:

 

Keep moaning about her in every single post and I'll keep on calling you out ^_^

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You know f*** all about me so how on earth do you know I'm not critical of her? :lol: What an utterly invalid non-point.

 

How is you MOANING AGAIN, this time about Born This Way not being the album of the decade anything of substance? Are you high? And going all OTT by saying "it nearly killed her career" even though BTW is one of the biggest things she's ever done? Again, not substance, just troll like bullshit

 

In regards to Judas - you linked to a Steps live performance which sounded like shite. The fact you think that is you providing receipts is just embarrassing :lol:

 

Keep moaning about her in every single post and I'll keep on calling you out ^_^

 

Call me oot all you like - I am the beefiest person on this seet and will call you right back oot?? :lol: I also have the receipts to back that up x

 

And because it is a valid point! She didn't say DECADE. She said MILLENNIUM. The album of the MILLENNIUM. One thousand years. Born This Way was a huge step down, savaged by fans, and she hasn't had a no.1 since it was released ... until this year after YEAAARS of damage control. I saw fans saying they were done with her if the next album was like it. "Another abum like this is not gonna cut it :( " is the comment I remember most. Then came ARTPOp on waves of MORE TOTAL HYPE. It simply does not work as no matter what, the album will not match up to that level of hype!! She needs to let it speak for itself. It's that simple, especially after the lessons BTW and ARTPOP receptiom vs hype have taught her. Even you have to admit what dhe said was way way over the top and turned people off?

 

Judas - performance plus Steps themselves saying it sounds identical. This is Madonna with BTW all over again. People recognise their own sound. These are receipts. You just buried your head in the sand and refused to accept them as proof of purchase because of a tea stain!

 

Call me oot all you like - I am the beefiest person on this seet and will call you right back oot?? :lol: I also have the receipts to back that up x

 

And because it is a valid point! She didn't say DECADE. She said MILLENNIUM. The album of the MILLENNIUM. One thousand years. Born This Way was a huge step down, savaged by fans, and she hasn't had a no.1 since it was released ... until this year after YEAAARS of damage control. I saw fans saying they were done with her if the next album was like it. "Another abum like this is not gonna cut it :( " is the comment I remember most. Then came ARTPOp on waves of MORE TOTAL HYPE. It simply does not work as no matter what, the album will not match up to that level of hype!! She needs to let it speak for itself. It's that simple, especially after the lessons BTW and ARTPOP receptiom vs hype have taught her. Even you have to admit what dhe said was way way over the top and turned people off?

 

Judas - performance plus Steps themselves saying it sounds identical. This is Madonna with BTW all over again. People recognise their own sound. These are receipts. You just buried your head in the sand and refused to accept them as proof of purchase because of a tea stain!

 

You're the "beefiest person on this seet" - what? Again, are you high?

 

Born This Way wasn't a huge step down tho? And HOW did it almost kill her career? CLEARLY the GP don't agree with those trolly opinions considering the huge sales of the album and the overall success of the singles. Keep trying tho? :lol:

 

Burying my hand in the sand simply because I believe Judas doesn't sound like a random Steps song? Trying to claw at further receipts by saying even STEPS BELIEVE SO!!11 So if Steps believe so it MUST be true. Legit going red in the face for you :rofl:

You're the "beefiest person on this seet" - what? Again, are you high?

 

Born This Way wasn't a huge step down tho? And HOW did it almost kill her career? CLEARLY the GP don't agree with those trolly opinions considering the huge sales of the album and the overall success of the singles. Keep trying tho? :lol:

 

Burying my hand in the sand simply because I believe Judas doesn't sound like a random Steps song? Trying to claw at further receipts by saying even STEPS BELIEVE SO!!11 So if Steps believe so it MUST be true. Legit going red in the face for you :rofl:

 

No. Just beefy x

 

 

It WAS a massive step down. Look at the reviews and then at the fan reviews at that. Look at how big the fall was, how Judas did massive damage. She should have been getting no.1s still at that stage... Judas stopped that. The album was $0.99 cents on promotion. The sales are um INFLATED.

 

Sooo Madonna wasn't right when she heard Express Yourself? The fact that PopJustice fans at the time said it sounded like Steps too, mas the performance, plus Steps recognising THEIR BRAND, just like GaGa did with Bionic, is receipt enough!!!!

Oh God....

 

 

First of all, back in late 2010 during the TFMB while she was working on Born This Way this is what she said to her fans

 

"Not for nothing, the album's finished and it's f***king really good,"

"I promise to give you the greatest album of this decade, just for you."

 

so a few years later, she was just making fun of that statement before ARTPOP's release cuz her fans were asking "if BTW was the album of the decade, what is ARTPOP?!" so she tweeted

 

http://oi44.tinypic.com/6fmjj6.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/Cty3xER.png

 

Obviously just having fun and not being serious.

 

Secondly, Jase that user is just a troll. A few months ago I receieved a dozen messages from him harrassing me simply because I posted that Katy's single is flopping. So if he is a Katy Perry stan what is he doing here with his constant negativity?

Oh God....

First of all, back in late 2010 during the TFMB while she was working on Born This Way this is what she said to her fans

so a few years later, she was just making fun of that statement before ARTPOP's release cuz her fans were asking "if BTW was the album of the decade, what is ARTPOP?!" so she tweeted

 

http://oi44.tinypic.com/6fmjj6.jpg

 

http://i.imgur.com/Cty3xER.png

 

Obviously just having fun and not being serious.

 

Secondly, Jase that user is just a troll. A few months ago I receieved a dozen messages from him harrassing me simply because I posted that Katy's single is flopping. So if he is a Katy Perry stan what is he doing here with his constant negativity?

 

Pfft don't start that rumour again. I was on postings strike and said why Katy's single was doing better than little flops. Then we had a fan war in a few pms that could just as easily have been posted on the seet in the chart thread. In fact, I still have said pms. Want me to bring the receipts?

 

And someone can like Katy P and Lady GaGa at the same time :o

 

 

No. Just beefy x

It WAS a massive step down. Look at the reviews and then at the fan reviews at that. Look at how big the fall was, how Judas did massive damage. She should have been getting no.1s still at that stage... Judas stopped that. The album was $0.99 cents on promotion. The sales are um INFLATED.

 

Sooo Madonna wasn't right when she heard Express Yourself? The fact that PopJustice fans at the time said it sounded like Steps too, mas the performance, plus Steps recognising THEIR BRAND, just like GaGa did with Bionic, is receipt enough!!!!

 

Oh. Beefy makes sense.

 

"Judas did massive damage"

 

-releases The Edge of Glory after Judas which goes onto become one of her most well loved and best selling songs-

 

THINK of the things you come out with before you do so :blink:

 

Now you're using Madonna being bitter and POPJUSTICE FANS as receipts? Again, appalling :lol:

Secondly, Jase that user is just a troll. A few months ago I receieved a dozen messages from him harrassing me simply because I posted that Katy's single is flopping. So if he is a Katy Perry stan what is he doing here with his constant negativity?

 

Yeah, I don't even know why I'm responding to him tbh :blink:

Oh. Beefy makes sense.

 

"Judas did massive damage"

 

-releases The Edge of Glory after Judas which goes onto become one of her most well loved and best selling songs-

 

THINK of the things you come out with before you do so :blink:

 

Now you're using Madonna being bitter and POPJUSTICE FANS as receipts? Again, appalling :lol:

 

First, you shouldn't listen to a salty mixer. I would have voted for GaGa, not created aliases for Touch x

 

Second, Edge of Glory WOULD be a MODERN CLASSIC AND A MASSIVE #1 if it weren't for the Steps-lite cheese of Judas!! The damage that song did was massive. She went from Spice Girls pre-Goodbye big to Forever big in the space of one single.

 

Madonna was RIGHT. Listen to the songs. They are incredibly similar. It trended on twitter before Madonna even said anything. Pop fans who know Steps well and Steps themselves are um a good place to start too when it comes to comparisons!

 

Now what are YOUR receipts because at least I have some! Oh, and please tell me how an album for 0.99 for a whole week wouldn't inflate sales? K thanks.

Pfft don't start that rumour again. I was on postings strike and said why Katy's single was doing better than little flops. Then we had a fan war in a few pms that could just as easily have been posted on the seet in the chart thread. In fact, I still have said pms. Want me to bring the receipts?

 

And someone can like Katy P and Lady GaGa at the same time :o

 

You started PMing me for no reason, bashing Little Mix (body shaming) and their music comparing them to Katy who according to you wasn't flopping (Bon Appetit was a hit, right? :lol: ) and during our argument you said Gaga's been flopping for a while. So what the hell are you doing on a Lady Gaga forum if you are obviously not a fan of hers?

You started PMing me for no reason, bashing Little Mix (body shaming) and their music comparing them to Katy who according to you wasn't flopping (Bon Appetit was a hit, right? :lol: ) and during our argument you said Gaga's been flopping for a while. So what the hell are you doing on a Lady Gaga forum if you are obviously not a fan of hers?

 

Katy's single was doing alright at the time, and GaGa had been flopping up until Shallow? I was 100% right? Like I said, I have these pms and they aren't scandalous and are just a fan argument :lol:

 

Bon Appetit has 800 million yt views now x

You started PMing me for no reason, bashing Little Mix (body shaming) and their music comparing them to Katy who according to you wasn't flopping (Bon Appetit was a hit, right? :lol: ) and during our argument you said Gaga's been flopping for a while. So what the hell are you doing on a Lady Gaga forum if you are obviously not a fan of hers?

 

I'm literally just going to ignore every post of his now. I refuse to feed the troll any longer :')

You started PMing me for no reason, bashing Little Mix (body shaming) and their music comparing them to Katy who according to you wasn't flopping (Bon Appetit was a hit, right? :lol: ) and during our argument you said Gaga's been flopping for a while. So what the hell are you doing on a Lady Gaga forum if you are obviously not a fan of hers?

 

"the nerve to call out Little Mix when your fave releases shits like Bon Voyage and Swish Swish laugh.gif

 

Think About Us is only starting, rising on Spotify every day, it's for sure going to peak higher on the chart. Can you say the same for 365? Just face the fact that Katy Perry is f***ing over! She bombed hard with her last album, and she is not having a comeback! No Dr.Luke = No hits!

 

You KatyCats deserve this for all the hate you've given to Queen of Pop Lady Gaga over the last couple of years. Godga is getting a new peak in her career this year, while Katy is stuck selling some ugly shoes, so take several seats. Bye Felicia!"

 

You brought up Lady GaGa. And that's the tea x

 

You seem to think you can't like one if you like the other, as salty mixers are so combative with other girl group fans! Also, lol at you being completely wrong :lol:

 

"So what the hell are you doing on a Lady Gaga forum if you are obviously not a fan of hers?"

 

Well, not only am I a Lady GaGa fan, check my rate scores for the receipts x, you'll also be pleased to know that we have now established that the artist forums are NOT echo chambers x You don't HAVE to be a fan to use them.

Am I now supposed to post your messages that preceded that one? :lol:

 

And what is that message even supposed to prove? As I've said I posted on the forum that Katy's single was flopping and you decided to PM me (seeing Little Mix in my avi) telling me how "the greatest girl band in the world" are floppping while you kept on saying Bon Appetit wasn't a flop, so of course I had to reply like that when someone attacks me out of nowhere.

 

We are already way off topic, so let's just stop here.

 

Saying the greatest girl band in the world were flopping is not attacking YOU :lol: You saying Katy was flopping was not attacking MER :lol: I was just bringing the tea that YOU bought up Lady GaGa, not me, in relation to Katy P both times. I am a fan of both and have albums by both x I have also said Witness is atrocious, just as I said the same for ARTPOP, soooo? Like I said allll along: fans should be critical and demand the best! Only that way do we bring out the best! If LG6 is great, I'll say it. And if it's not, I'll say that too.

I’d say Gaga’s in a good position at the moment.

 

In terms of a Gaga solo album I’d say there’s probably more hype amongst the GP since Born This Way tbh.

 

I do think it’s for the best that she doesn’t hype up this album though. With ASIB she did just that and it really worked for her. I can see the point that you meant Monqueef in the overhyping of the records and whilst I’ve never got the steps thing I’d also agree Judas wasn’t a good single choice. But Born This Way did have plenty of strong choices in my opinion. ARTPOP also had strong single choices on the album but they weren’t released.

 

LG6 just needs to make sure that we get a strong selection of singles! Like a lot of people / the GP would love certain tracks from BTW, ARTPOP and even Joanne tbh but the eras are judged more for the singles.

 

Also!!! (I may be in a minority here) but I don’t think BTW and Express Yourself are similar in sound maybe in message but not sound. I hear more similarities between La Isla Bonita and Alejandro personally.

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I’d say Gaga’s in a good position at the moment.

 

In terms of a Gaga solo album I’d say there’s probably more hype amongst the GP since Born This Way tbh.

 

I do think it’s for the best that she doesn’t hype up this album though. With ASIB she did just that and it really worked for her.

 

Omg PREACH!!

First, you shouldn't listen to a salty mixer. I would have voted for GaGa, not created aliases for Touch x

 

Second, Edge of Glory WOULD be a MODERN CLASSIC AND A MASSIVE #1 if it weren't for the Steps-lite cheese of Judas!! The damage that song did was massive. She went from Spice Girls pre-Goodbye big to Forever big in the space of one single.

 

Madonna was RIGHT. Listen to the songs. They are incredibly similar. It trended on twitter before Madonna even said anything. Pop fans who know Steps well and Steps themselves are um a good place to start too when it comes to comparisons!

 

Now what are YOUR receipts because at least I have some! Oh, and please tell me how an album for 0.99 for a whole week wouldn't inflate sales? K thanks.

 

TEOG was huge.

 

I don’t think Judas stopped it from going to #1 it was more the fact it was a mid week release wasn’t it.

 

I think it is seen as a classic song by her and it’s sold 800K too (Over 600K being pure sales too I think).

 

It could’ve easily at least went top 5 had it got a full week of sales.

 

Gaga’s pretty much always released OA OS. Only Just Dance Really had like a pre order type release didn’t it. She’s never debuted at #1 in the singles chart either in the UK.

 

And was it only released as a promo single at the time too before being upgraded to official single?

 

I remember it returning to the top 10 after it fell out the top 20. It was like a yo yo chart run what stuck around for ages.

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