The Labels Don't

Decide What Goes

On Playlists, Spotify

Do

 

(in your famous Haiku format)

Let's do a proper one :D

 

anger at playlists

want to put blame on labels

Spotify decides

Why would a little mix track that the fans have all known for months make the top 200 without any Hot Hits or NMF?

 

Because their fans would want to hear the 'new' version.

 

This era from Little Mix has shown that Syco were actually doing a great job with them.

The Labels Don't

Decide What Goes

On Playlists, Spotify

Do

 

(in your famous Haiku format)

 

Nina Nesbitt says hi :D jajajhajha

 

the biggest example of payola was recently when Lewis Capaldi got Grace replaced by Someone you loved at the same position on HH,

1000% dictated by the label

People who think labels don't have huge influence over playlists and do deals with Spotify are very naive.

Ariana falling rather quickly in terms of streams, down 150k on just a few days ago.

 

12. Mabel - Don't Call Me Up

46. Dua Lipa - Swan Song

83. Yungen - Comfortable (ft. Dappy)

 

Spotify Daily Chart Update (26/01)

01 [01] Ariana Grande – 7 rings 773,577

02 [02] Ava Max – Sweet but Psycho 447,382

03 [03] Post Malone – Wow. 399,603

04 [04] Sam Smith & Normani – Dancing With A Stranger 397,224

05 [05] Calvin Harris & Rag'n'Bone Man – Giant 365,409

06 [07] Post Malone & Swae Lee – Sunflower (Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse) 320,384

07 [08] Halsey – Without Me 318,156

08 [09] Ariana Grande – thank u, next 307,114

09 [06] J. Cole – MIDDLE CHILD 304,970

10 [10] Mark Ronson – Nothing Breaks Like a Heart (feat. Miley Cyrus) 264,752

 

11 [11] Jax Jones & Years & Years – Play

12 [13] Mabel – Don't Call Me Up

13 [12] NSG – Options (feat. Tion Wayne)

14 [14] Travis Scott – SICKO MODE

15 [15] Meek Mill – Going Bad (feat. Drake)

16 [16] Lewis Capaldi – Someone You Loved

17 [23] George Ezra – Shotgun

18 [18] Kodak Black – ZEZE (feat. Travis Scott & Offset)

19 [17] Zara Larsson – Ruin My Life

20 [21] benny blanco – Eastside (with Halsey & Khalid)

 

21 [20] Ellie Goulding & Diplo – Close To Me (feat. Swae Lee)

22 [19] Gesaffelstein – Lost in the Fire (feat. The Weeknd)

23 [25] Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper – Shallow

24 [24] Khalid – Saturday Nights

25 [22] Calvin Harris & Sam Smith – Promises

26 [30] Marshmello – Happier (feat. Bastille)

27 [26] Panic! At The Disco – High Hopes

28 [29] Dave – Funky Friday (feat. Fredo)

29 [31] Billie Eilish – when the party's over

30 [27] Headie One – 18HUNNA (feat. Dave)

 

31 [32] Chris Brown – Undecided

32 [38] Russ splash – Gun Lean {#14 combined} [*NEW PEAK*]

33 [34] Sheck Wes – Mo Bamba

34 [35] Tyga – Taste (feat. Offset)

35 [42] Keala Settle – This Is Me

36 [36] Post Malone – Better Now

37 [37] Flipp Dinero – Leave Me Alone

38 [39] Little Mix – Woman Like Me (feat. Nicki Minaj)

39 [33] Loud Luxury – Body (feat. Brando)

40 [44] Juice WRLD – Lucid Dreams

 

43 [40] Ariana Grande – imagine

46 [28] Dua Lipa – Swan Song (From the Motion Picture "Alita: Battle Angel")

47 [45] Cadet & Deno Driz – Advice

58 [47] AJ Tracey - Psych Out!

59 [77] George Ezra – Hold My Girl

63 [73] Clean Bandit – Baby (feat. Marina and The Diamonds & Luis Fonsi)

69 [78] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Look Back At It

76 [59] Catfish and the Bottlemen – Longshot

79 [83] Swarmz – Bally (feat. Tion Wayne)

81 [52] Bring Me The Horizon – medicine

83 [85] Yungen – Comfortable (feat. Dappy) [*NEW PEAK*]

84 [88] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Swervin (feat. 6ix9ine)

86 [106] Kehlani – Nights Like This (feat. Ty Dolla $ign)

95 [93] Russ splash – Gun Lean Remix (feat. Ms Banks, Lethal Bizzle, Taze, LD & Digga D)

97 [81] Lauv & Troye Sivan – I'm so tired…

 

103 [107] Westlife – Hello My Love

111 [121] The Chainsmokers – Hope (feat. Winona Oak)

117 [56] Bring Me The Horizon – nihilist blues (feat. Grimes)

122 [126] Lewis Capaldi – Grace

125 [55] Bring Me The Horizon – mother tongue

136 [129] CamelPhat & Cristoph – Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)

141 [138] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Startender (feat. Offset & Tyga)

143 [125] Seeb & Bastille – Grip

158 [148] Logic – Keanu Reeves

159 [139] James Blake – Mile High (feat. Metro Boomin & Travis Scott)

160 [166] Future – First Off (feat. Travis Scott)

163 [174] Sub Focus & Dimension – Desire [*NEW PEAK*]

173 [172] Sam Smith – Fire On Fire - From "Watership Down"

180 [184] FISHER – Losing It

185 [170] Fredo – Survival of the Fittest

194 [103] Wiley, Sean Paul & Stefflon Don – Boasty (feat. Idris Elba)

 

OUT [158] Florence + The Machine – Moderation

OUT [165] Vampire Weekend – Harmony Hall

OUT [182] Foals – Exits

OUT [185] XXXTENTACION - Sauce!

OUT [197] Julia Michaels & Selena Gomez – Anxiety

OUT [199] Rudimental – Dark Clouds (feat. Jess Glynne & Chronixx)

 

Bring Me The Horizon - amo

81 medicine

117 nihilist blues (feat. Grimes)

125 mother tongue

126 MANTRA

131 sugar honey ice & tea

137 in the dark

147 wonderful life (feat. Dani Filth)

161 why you gotta kick me when I'm down?

169 heavy metal (feat. Rahzel)

171 I apologise if you feel something

Come through Sub Focus & Dimension *.*

Shallow overtaking that The Weeknd track soon :wub:

Edited January 27, 20196 yr by SKOB

Shallow up to #17 again <3

Mabel #11

Lewis Capaldi #13

RE: Labels paying for NMF

 

My brother manages a smallish band who have had a song on NMF (near the bottom). He says Spotify choose, he or the label didn't have any involvement.

 

It's probably different for 'big' artists, but it's definitely not all payed for.

sure it's a mix, but some times it's beyond obvious

sure it's a mix, but some times it's beyond obvious

 

It's mostly Spotify, as explained to you about 1000 times before.

 

dua added to Hot Hits now.

I actually see more examples of payola than non-payola

but also admit theres a mix and some songs are added naturally

You can tell Spotify chooses by the people who do their live sessions who normally appear high on playlists like NMF.

I actually see more examples of payola than non-payola

but also admit theres a mix and some songs are added naturally

 

I literally know people who work at labels who deal with this kind of thing, and labels get very little say

Spotify Daily Chart Update (27/01)

01 [01] Ariana Grande – 7 rings 653,437

02 [02] Ava Max – Sweet but Psycho 376,350

03 [03] Post Malone – Wow. 339,317

04 [04] Sam Smith & Normani – Dancing With A Stranger 334,165

05 [05] Calvin Harris & Rag'n'Bone Man – Giant 296,951

06 [06] Post Malone & Swae Lee – Sunflower (Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse) 280,926

07 [07] Halsey – Without Me 278,364

08 [08] Ariana Grande – thank u, next 260,151

09 [09] J. Cole – MIDDLE CHILD 246,944

10 [10] Mark Ronson – Nothing Breaks Like a Heart (feat. Miley Cyrus) 223,351

 

11 [12] Mabel – Don't Call Me Up [*NEW PEAK*]

12 [13] NSG – Options (feat. Tion Wayne)

13 [16] Lewis Capaldi – Someone You Loved [*NEW PEAK*]

14 [11] Jax Jones & Years & Years – Play

15 [14] Travis Scott – SICKO MODE

16 [15] Meek Mill – Going Bad (feat. Drake)

17 [23] Lady Gaga & Bradley Cooper – Shallow

18 [17] George Ezra – Shotgun

19 [18] Kodak Black – ZEZE (feat. Travis Scott & Offset)

20 [20] benny blanco – Eastside (with Halsey & Khalid)

 

21 [19] Zara Larsson – Ruin My Life

22 [22] Gesaffelstein – Lost in the Fire (feat. The Weeknd)

23 [21] Ellie Goulding & Diplo – Close To Me (feat. Swae Lee)

24 [24] Khalid – Saturday Nights

25 [29] Billie Eilish – when the party's over

26 [26] Marshmello – Happier (feat. Bastille)

27 [27] Panic! At The Disco – High Hopes

28 [25] Calvin Harris & Sam Smith – Promises

29 [35] Keala Settle – This Is Me

30 [28] Dave – Funky Friday (feat. Fredo)

 

31 [36] Post Malone – Better Now

32 [30] Headie One – 18HUNNA (feat. Dave)

33 [31] Chris Brown – Undecided

34 [33] Sheck Wes – Mo Bamba

35 [37] Flipp Dinero – Leave Me Alone

36 [32] Russ splash – Gun Lean {#15 combined}

37 [40] Juice WRLD – Lucid Dreams

38 [34] Tyga – Taste (feat. Offset)

39 [41] Hugh Jackman et al. – The Greatest Show

40 [45] Khalid – Better

 

45 [43] Ariana Grande – imagine

48 [46] Dua Lipa – Swan Song (From the Motion Picture "Alita: Battle Angel")

51 [47] Cadet & Deno Driz – Advice

53 [59] George Ezra – Hold My Girl

61 [69] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Look Back At It

62 [58] AJ Tracey - Psych Out!

63 [63] Clean Bandit – Baby (feat. Marina and The Diamonds & Luis Fonsi)

68 [76] Catfish and the Bottlemen – Longshot

73 [83] Yungen – Comfortable (feat. Dappy) [*NEW PEAK*]

77 [86] Kehlani – Nights Like This (feat. Ty Dolla $ign) [*NEW PEAK*]

78 [84] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Swervin (feat. 6ix9ine)

79 [79] Swarmz – Bally (feat. Tion Wayne)

86 [81] Bring Me The Horizon – medicine

96 [122] Lewis Capaldi – Grace

97 [97] Lauv & Troye Sivan – I'm so tired…

 

107 [95] Russ splash – Gun Lean Remix (feat. Ms Banks, Lethal Bizzle, Taze, LD & Digga D)

108 [111] The Chainsmokers – Hope (feat. Winona Oak)

113 [103] Westlife – Hello My Love

129 [125] Bring Me The Horizon – mother tongue

133 [117] Bring Me The Horizon – nihilist blues (feat. Grimes)

138 [141] A Boogie Wit da Hoodie – Startender (feat. Offset & Tyga)

152 [143] Seeb & Bastille – Grip

159 [158] Logic – Keanu Reeves

160 [173] Sam Smith – Fire On Fire - From "Watership Down"

170 [159] James Blake – Mile High (feat. Metro Boomin & Travis Scott)

180 [NE] Alec Benjamin – Let Me Down Slowly [*NEW PEAK*]

189 [160] Future – First Off (feat. Travis Scott)

195 [136] CamelPhat & Cristoph – Breathe (feat. Jem Cooke)

 

OUT [163] Sub Focus & Dimension – Desire

OUT [180] FISHER – Losing It

OUT [185] Fredo – Survival of the Fittest

OUT [194] Wiley, Sean Paul & Stefflon Don – Boasty (feat. Idris Elba)

Ariana falling fairly quickly, though still well ahead of Ava. Looks like Alec Benjamin may actually be happening now too, and not even the new Alessia version.

I actually see more examples of payola than non-payola

but also admit theres a mix and some songs are added naturally

I don't understand how you can conclude something is payola just like that...? Spotify add songs to their playlists that they think will get a lot of plays, so they earn more money from it. The reason they add Nina Nesbitt will be because she's a safe bet of an artist that people will enjoy (basic, generic and accessible). The reason they don't add many obscure songs and indie tracks is 'cause it'll make them less money.

 

This J. Cole track seems to be holding up fairly well so far, coming to be his first proper hit single?

It looks as though "7 rings" is going to fade away faster than "thank you, next". Good.