Posted November 9, 200618 yr Here's a possible list Aerosmith Faith No More Guns N Roses Metallica Nirvana Pulp Radiohead Rage Against the Machine Slipknot Tool Yea, I know some are going to be some missing, so that's why I didn't make it a poll. My persoanl favourite was Guns N Roses and Metallia but I think maybe Nirvana had more of an impact. What do you think?
November 9, 200618 yr you have pulp and Slipknot on the same list? ..never thought i'd see the day...
November 9, 200618 yr Aerosmith - Their best material is more 70s/80s to be honest, so I wouldn't include them here. Faith No More - A very important, seminal band, you can pretty much credit them as being one of the originators of the whole 'Nu Metal' movement Guns N Roses - Good in the 80s, but never thought much of any of their 90s stuff tbh... Metallica - ditto for them, by far Metallica's creative peak was the 80s... Nirvana - As near as dammit the answer to the question... Pulp - I wouldn't regard them as 'rock' tbh.... Indie Pop... Radiohead - See 'Nirvana'.... Rage Against the Machine - They did some good stuff, and like FNM, they contributed to the creation of Nu Metal Slipknot - A good band, but their best material is in the 00s.... Tool - Simply an amazing contemporary Metal band, very influential and avant garde... I'd rank em alongside Radiohead and Nirvana... Cant believe you missed Smashing Pumpkins an Korn mate... Both MAJOR 90s bands that I'd've put in before even considering the likes of Slipknot or Aerosmith....
November 9, 200618 yr I pretty much like Helloween's 90's stuff, also Stratovarius and Angra were great in the 90's. From the bands you listed I like: Radiohead, Metallica and Tool.
November 10, 200618 yr Success-wise, Britpop bands like Oasis, Pulp and Blur made the 90s But in terms of most influencial, it would have to be Nirvana or Metallica
November 10, 200618 yr Success-wise, Britpop bands like Oasis, Pulp and Blur made the 90s The question was "Best Rock Band of the 90s"... I wouldn't consider any of your examples as being 'Rock' as such, they were all termed 'Britpop' at the time.... As for success, while Oasis have certainly done well, Metallica have sold vastly more records world-wide than Oasis (almost 90 million at the last count...), Pulp or Blur. "Nevermind" was one of the biggest selling rock albums of the 1990s...(estimated 14 million worldwide), and I would say in terms of sheer seismic impact and smashing metaphorical doors open, Nirvana win hands down... Blur and Pulp come nowhere near matching the world-wide success of Nirvana or Metallica.. Dont measure a band's success purely on how they perform in one country....
November 10, 200618 yr aye - from that list the best 'rock' band is easily nirvana. I'd like to see Pavement and Sonic on that list to choose from though....
November 10, 200618 yr Nirvana are the most overrated band in the history of music.... an average US rawk band who, because their singer was a suicidal lunatic, were propelled to far higher realms than they ever deserved. Plus, don't forget, Nirvana didn't ever sell a load of records in the UK until after Cobain's death - their 3 albums up top that point were average sellers, same with the singles.
November 10, 200618 yr Slipknot aren't even rock, they're nu metal! Grimly I think their self titled album is best, it's my favourite anyway.
November 10, 200618 yr Nirvana are the most overrated band in the history of music.... an average US rawk band who, because their singer was a suicidal lunatic, were propelled to far higher realms than they ever deserved. Plus, don't forget, Nirvana didn't ever sell a load of records in the UK until after Cobain's death - their 3 albums up top that point were average sellers, same with the singles. Dont really see how you can underestimate their impact mate... Up til their breakthrough absolutely NO ONE bar a few fanatics was remotely interested in Alternative music whatsoever in the early 90s... I vividly remember Nirvana fukkin' sh!t up on TOTP, The Word, Johanathan Ross, etc and "Nevermind" selling sh!tloads immediately after they broke through in the UK, and they and other Alternative and Indie acts (Sonic Youth, Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, Pearl Jam, Stone Roses, Happy Mondays, The Wonderstuff, Dinosaur Jr, Lemonheads, etc, etc...) started displacing the mainstream pop acts off the album charts.... Nirvana absolutely opened the floodgates in '91 and UK bands like Radiohead and Manic Street Preachers benefited greatly from Nirvana's success. I know this for a fact because I was into the scene at the time.... Cobain had his problems, but writing him off as a 'suicidal lunatic' is extremely churlish and wildly inaccurate and calling them over-rated is frankly what some lazy 2006 NME journo would say... Sure, they may not have been as 'high art' as Pixies, The Cure or Sonic Youth, but they wrote brilliant, spiky little songs and totally captured the spirit and mood of the times, and one just cannot underestimate the influence they have had...
November 10, 200618 yr Slipknot aren't even rock, they're nu metal! Grimly I think their self titled album is best, it's my favourite anyway. "Subliminal Verses" for me all the way, the sign of a band maturing and reaching out far beyond the limitations of the Nu Metal cul-de-sac so beautifully.....
November 10, 200618 yr if you want to give credit for this type of rawk... then, as you mention - The Pixies and Sonic Youth done it with far more style and panache. And years before, too. Nirvana hit the UK when nobody give a s*it about rock, anyway - 1991 was the end of acid house, the start of full-on techno/ecstasy stuff... rock, and especially the bland Nirvana-style 'rawk', was possibly the least cool thing on the planet back then. Who cared? MTV did, it seemed...... Nirvana were an MTV fodder band for disassociated youth of the time - grossly overrated then and even moreso now. Just another cripplingly ordinary rawk band, I think, sorry, Scott, nothing 'alternative' in that whatsoever.
November 10, 200618 yr "Subliminal Verses" for me all the way, the sign of a band maturing and reaching out far beyond the limitations of the Nu Metal cul-de-sac so beautifully..... Yeah I do love all their albums, but the first one seems to be the one I play the most. And certain songs off the other 2. It's a shame because Corey's voice is going a bit now. When I watch them live on youtube his voice isn't as good as early performances. Also, you said before that Chris and Shawn do a lot of the percussion. On a live one of The Blister Exists, when they were doing the marching bit Joey was too! And songs like Disasterpiece, if you watch his view on the dvd you can see he does a lot.
November 10, 200618 yr if you want to give credit for this type of rawk... then, as you mention - The Pixies and Sonic Youth done it with far more style and panache. And years before, too. Nirvana hit the UK when nobody give a s*it about rock, anyway - 1991 was the end of acid house, the start of full-on techno/ecstasy stuff... rock, and especially the bland Nirvana-style 'rawk', was possibly the least cool thing on the planet back then. Who cared? MTV did, it seemed...... Nirvana were an MTV fodder band for disassociated youth of the time - grossly overrated then and even moreso now. Just another cripplingly ordinary rawk band, I think, sorry, Scott, nothing 'alternative' in that whatsoever. Well, if rock was so 'uncool', then why did so many Techno/Rave acts take upon many of its trappings - the live performance, the need to 'put on a show', the many collaborations with rock legends such as Johnny Rotten/Leftfield.. The KLF were totally into the whole 'stadium rock' thing and just transposed it into their own unique approach to making music... And you seem to forget, Nirvana were never intended to sell huge amounts of records, Geffen had only pressed 250,000 copies of "Nevermind" originally (Geffen assumed that Nirvana would struggle even to break even..), Nirvana only signed to Geffen in the first place on Thurston Moore's (a man who Kurt admired and respected so totally..) recommendation; and "Smells Like Teen Spirit" was nowhere to be seen on MTV until it captured the imagination of the kids... MTV and others jumped on a bandwagon that was already well underway, it was only people like John Peel and US College radio stations who were playing Nirvana records on the radio before "Nevermind" came out (in fact, it was purely due to Peel and his amazing broadcasts that I even got into them in the first place); this was pure, grass-roots, word-of-mouth sh!t, made even more amazing by the fact that this was before the days of YouTube, MySpace, Internet file-sharing sites, etc... You are so wrong about the rise of Nirvana mate.... It was needed, and it was a breath of fresh air...
November 10, 200618 yr Well imo Oasis were by far the best. "Definatly Maybe" & "Morning Glory" are two of the best albums ever IMO. "Be Here Now" was a huge let down but during the 90's Oasis had more classic tunes then anyone else IMO. U2 are my favourite band, however during the 90's they went more experimental and did electo type of stuff, but "Achung Baby" is one of my favourite albums of all time. ^_^ I was never a Nirvana fan myself. I have a few of their albums but just as I find with most critically acclaimed albums, they were a let down -_-
November 10, 200618 yr It depends which way you look at it I suppose. Oasis during the Definitely Maybe/Morning Glory years were good, but since then they've been trading on their past glories. They certainly had the most mainstream appeal in this country. Rage Against The Machine and Faith No More, I agree were definitely influenial in the nu metal sense. Radiohead were excellent. Brilliant albums. I suppose, Kurt Cobain's "credibility" has been diluted nowadays, as he has become a sort of "poster child" for the '90s, but that shouldn't take anything away from how great Nirvana were in their short time.
November 10, 200618 yr Are Oasis rock? I didn't think they were. Well this is the Indie forum and Oasis and Rock N' Roll, but if you mean Rock like Metallica then this topic is in the wrong forum :lol:
November 10, 200618 yr Well this is the Indie forum and Oasis and Rock N' Roll, but if you mean Rock like Metallica then this topic is in the wrong forum :lol: Isn't Metallica metal? I just thought Oasis were indie. Edited November 10, 200618 yr by x-The_Royston_Poisoner-x
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