True! In this age it’s very easy for albums to fall out the chart (see Zayn) so Dua is doing well considering she’s not streaming really big number.

Random thought but French Exit could actually go viral if France ever decided to leave the EU. :lol:

Down to #16 in the UK :/

It is disappointing to see the album exit the top 10 so quickly but it will make it's return.

I honestly don't think the run is that bad so far, especially considering so many people were proclaiming the album as a disaster during its first week.

It should re enter the top 10 after Glastonbury I would’ve thought, after that I’m not so sure. Perhaps her Glasto set might give her another hit and stabilise the album.

In all honesty, I don’t think there is a hit on the album…maybe re-issue will have one but on the standard version, Houdini and TS will remain the only hits of the album!!!

Edited June 10, 20241 yr by Addy!

Down to #83 in the US :( Despite the colossal mishandling I really thought this would at least be on Tate McRae level (#88 after 27 weeks) but I guess it wasn't meant to be.

Down to #83 in the US :( Despite the colossal mishandling I really thought this would at least be on Tate McRae level (#88 after 27 weeks) but I guess it wasn't meant to be.

 

I can’t see Falling Forever reversing its fortunes.

Weird comparison. Isn't Dua the only British act in the US album chart outside of Charli who just debuted?

 

Where is Tate McRae in the UK album chart? Out after 11 weeks

 

Yeah we get it the album isn't smashing but the doom and gloom is so annoying on this site.

Well it's just an example of a fairly successful pop album of a streaming era - shouldn't be impossible for Dua to achieve considering she had a big top ten hit on Hot 100 just last year.

Well it's just an example of a fairly successful pop album of a streaming era - shouldn't be impossible for Dua to achieve considering she had a big top ten hit on Hot 100 just last year.

A top 10 hit that's not on this album...

 

Greedy is carrying Tate McRae's album in the US. Dua's album never had a smash hit like that there. I don't know what point you're trying to make?

 

Dua's album has been more successful globally and in Europe. Why people constantly point out the US which is not her main market?

It's not like she hasn't tried to break through there? She just appeared in two Hollywood movies! I would say it's even been her priority market besides the UK until this era took its shape.

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Who doesn't try to break through in the US? She's still a British artist with a European sound at the end of the day so it's always gonna be harder for her there compared to American pop singers

I don't think there's anything wrong with addressing the fact it has underperformed in the US. I'm sure Dua and her team were hoping for at least a repeat of FN's success and longevity with this era but there's nothing that's really stuck with the public (besides Houdini). It'll be interesting to see what she does next. Promoting FF over the summer and then a deluxe edition?

Training Season is actually currently doing better than Houdini on Spotify. Interesting to see which one "wins" in the long run.

Oh didn't know that! Glad it's doing well as I've grown to really enjoy it.

I think the initial focus was building Dua as an artist and live act, and building her fan base.

 

There are positives that came from that:

-critically acclaimed fan fave Houdini

-strong debut numbers of the singles and the album

-much bigger physical sales than Future Nostalgia

-the ticket sales so far are promising

-the little live TV promo we got was great

-the London Sessions live videos

 

The singles haven't been the most on-trend nor trend-setting but they definitely chose them correctly. Unfortunately, they didn't have the longevity of Future Nostalgia's big hits, didn't connect particularly with the younger audience or TikTok. (although it nearly happened for Houdini)

 

I do think stuff has happened behind the scenes during this album production and it got messy. I suspect because of Dua leaving her management and old producers, Warner imposed a compromise on the end vision and sound. Considering the 2 producers involved + the press articles and interviews, and Dua's looks at the start of the era compared to what we got in the end, it feels sanitized and wishy washy.

 

I hope Glastonbury is a success and I imagine the tour will still sell well but I think they're better off deading this era from a marketing perspective. They should rather be focusing on recording a stronger new album.

 

Taking all that into account, Radical Optimism did surpassed expectations in some ways. Many were expecting lower debuts and for it to totally collapse down the charts. And this hasn't really been the case apart from the US where it still had a good debut week at least.

I think most people will refer back to its peak positions and deem it a success, regardless of how long it has stayed around in the charts. I agree, DL4 for 2025 would be the best plan. She can’t afford to wait another 4 years for her next album as I think any hype would have died by then.

I do think stuff has happened behind the scenes during this album production and it got messy. I suspect because of Dua leaving her management and old producers, Warner imposed a compromise on the end vision and sound. Considering the 2 producers involved + the press articles and interviews, and Dua's looks at the start of the era compared to what we got in the end, it feels sanitized and wishy washy.

 

This is probably the reason, a bit sad really as it looked promising until the spring.