Posted January 16, 20232 yr Czechia 2023 Vesna My Sister's Crown OZxQS4givVo The artists competing in this NS are: Maella Markéta Irglová Pam Rabbit Rodan Vesna This is a strong lineup! I'm excited about the song choices here :D
January 16, 20232 yr Ooooh Marketa Irglova trying again! Love her but I do think an artist like her will struggle to qualify with the new semi-final voting format
January 16, 20232 yr Author What you might expect from them: iNrQ2iPIVfo She excels with upbeat songs like this. She also does mid-tempo stuff but I would say her songs will come with an alternative twist and mysteriousness. D-uBvftNcBE I'm quite convinced Marketa Irglova will serve us a beautiful ballad like this. If it's in Czech, it's even better! 6FXwWxVDItE This has been recommended to me before but I'm not a huge fan of this. She didn't have a stellar year to be fair, but she can deliver a bop imo. xYMJlFLP_GY Vesna should give us a flavourful pop song. This is decent. I could see her doing either a ballad or an uptempo bop. The only unknown is Rodan here. He seems to do ballads well but we'll see.
January 16, 20232 yr oh my Marketa, last year trying for Iceland, now for Czech, next year Italy probably! She is not likeable or modern enough for Eurovision, I'm amazed she even thinks it's her thing.
January 16, 20232 yr Author I mean she is Czech-Icelandic so she is eligible for both anyway?? Ballads can do very well for Eurovision with the right composition and arrangement, so I'm not sure what your point is.
February 2, 20232 yr Author My ratings: 1. ghosting (8/10) 2. My Sister's Crown (7/10) 3. Flood (7/10) 4. Introvert Party Clube (5/10) 5. Happy (5/10) Overall rating: 6.4/10 I wasn't that much of a fan of Vesna's song tbf. I can see why it is really hyped though. ghosting is surprisingly good for me. Edited March 1, 20232 yr by tattoosting
February 7, 20232 yr Author Vesna landslided both national and international public votes to represent Czech Republic this year! This is going to be a contender for the win surely :o OZxQS4givVo
February 7, 20232 yr Vesna landslided both national and international public votes to represent Czech Republic this year! This is going to be a contender for the win surely :o The 70% international public vote was just Eurovision fans :P Edited February 7, 20232 yr by Chloe00x
February 7, 20232 yr Definitely the most competitive entry of the eight confirmed so far - will be interesting to see how this goes!
February 8, 20232 yr Author Potentially due to the inclusion of a Russian in the group. However, the lead singer states the member in question is vehemently against Russian's actions, so it will be terrible if they are disqualified because of something they cannot change. @1623096540372803585
February 8, 20232 yr Potentially due to the inclusion of a Russian in the group. However, the lead singer states the member in question is vehemently against Russian's actions, so it will be terrible if they are disqualified because of something they cannot change. @1623096540372803585 Yes. I don't know how true it is but I read people believe the husband of the member in question is fighting for the Russian Armed Forces and there is resistance from Ukraine due to them perceiving that it's 'mocking' Ukrainian language and culture. It's not surprising as there was drama before they won calling for them to be disqualified. Based on the results show it's also believable that the Czechia rep went to bed and forgot to send the details to the EBU. :lol: Edited February 8, 20232 yr by Megan_
February 8, 20232 yr I think the fandom are reading too much into it, just because we've gotten used to Eurovision social media being very on the ball. The NF and the results were broadcast on the Eurovision YouTube channel, and it felt like they had more organisation in the NF (it was clearly aimed at an international audience rather than a Czech one given it was hosted in English, and would the Czech broadcaster really have got those two podcasters to do the artist interviews?), so would they have really let it get to this stage if the song or artist was going to be a problem? Anyway, if Czech Republic end up not competing with this entry, the EBU owe me the £8 I bet on this shortly after the song was released (split the bet over outright and each way) xx
February 8, 20232 yr I think the fandom are reading too much into it, just because we've gotten used to Eurovision social media being very on the ball. The NF and the results were broadcast on the Eurovision YouTube channel, and it felt like they had more organisation in the NF (it was clearly aimed at an international audience rather than a Czech one given it was hosted in English, and would the Czech broadcaster really have got those two podcasters to do the artist interviews?), so would they have really let it get to this stage if the song or artist was going to be a problem? Anyway, if Czech Republic end up not competing with this entry, the EBU owe me the £8 I bet on this shortly after the song was released (split the bet over outright and each way) xx This is all just speculation so far but no confirmation is very strange however it could be a paperwork issue. The EBU were so eager to confirm Norway they posted the wrong winner. Edited February 8, 20232 yr by Megan_
February 8, 20232 yr Author Other speculation has been on the Czech broadcaster not having enough funds though there is no source as of yet but let's see how this goes. Edited February 8, 20232 yr by uhsting
February 9, 20232 yr Some thoughts on the song, I don't know if the delay in announcing it means anything (it might at this rate!) but it's an interesting song to dissect: It is a supportive message. It reads to me as referencing Ukraine's win in the contest last year and eventual victory in the war. Obviously pro-Ukrainian in intention, the language choice of the chorus deliberate. Easy, surface-level stuff. There's obvious calls for peace in the message. And that's probably part of the problem. Ukraine and Ukrainians are clearly not all buying the supportive message that this song has. It's written from a Pan-Slavic viewpoint, and given Russia is the largest and most influential Slavic nation, that Pan-Slavic message that I'd normally be enjoying very much feels at odds with the identity of Ukraine's aggressor. Of course that's understandable given the band's makeup and it would be unreasonable to remove a member for her nationality. The wish for peace is not particularly ideal either, as while many pacifists across the world do want it, coming without qualifiers is a pro-Russia position. You could argue for "you can take your hands back" as demanding Russia retreat but, well, in this case I'd argue that the usual Eurovision message of peace and love and status quo is genuinely not what Ukraine wants to hear. Just look at "Stefania" and "Heart Of Steel" and it's easily clear what kind of message they prefer, defiance. Not to be a victim. also musically as much as this is giving me chills and would be very near the top of my rankings AND would be in contention for the win I have some reservations about the electro-folk-rap sound getting overdone, Eurovision rarely goes for such niches consistently and this one feels more introspective to within Slavic countries than other attempts.
February 10, 20232 yr Author Official announcement confirming their participation is out! @1624037999712280579 Edited February 10, 20232 yr by uhsting
February 10, 20232 yr Some thoughts on the song, I don't know if the delay in announcing it means anything (it might at this rate!) but it's an interesting song to dissect: It is a supportive message. It reads to me as referencing Ukraine's win in the contest last year and eventual victory in the war. Obviously pro-Ukrainian in intention, the language choice of the chorus deliberate. Easy, surface-level stuff. There's obvious calls for peace in the message. And that's probably part of the problem. Ukraine and Ukrainians are clearly not all buying the supportive message that this song has. It's written from a Pan-Slavic viewpoint, and given Russia is the largest and most influential Slavic nation, that Pan-Slavic message that I'd normally be enjoying very much feels at odds with the identity of Ukraine's aggressor. Of course that's understandable given the band's makeup and it would be unreasonable to remove a member for her nationality. The wish for peace is not particularly ideal either, as while many pacifists across the world do want it, coming without qualifiers is a pro-Russia position. You could argue for "you can take your hands back" as demanding Russia retreat but, well, in this case I'd argue that the usual Eurovision message of peace and love and status quo is genuinely not what Ukraine wants to hear. Just look at "Stefania" and "Heart Of Steel" and it's easily clear what kind of message they prefer, defiance. Not to be a victim. also musically as much as this is giving me chills and would be very near the top of my rankings AND would be in contention for the win I have some reservations about the electro-folk-rap sound getting overdone, Eurovision rarely goes for such niches consistently and this one feels more introspective to within Slavic countries than other attempts. Great analysis. Pan-Slavism is a really interesting topic in relation to this song because I think there's absolutely value in a message of support to Ukraine coming from a place of shared Slavic experiences of suffering under Russian violence. But as you said, it's maybe not the best idea to appeal to in the midst of a war for which one of many justifications Russia has offered is that Pan-Slavism inherently justifies Russian dominion over its neighbours. Leaving that aside, the song in general just feels both overly direct and quite vapid at the same time. I like how it sounds but I'm not sure the message really works at all.
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