waiT i can get behind banning 4chan

One potentially good thing doesn’t make up for what they are setting up against lgbtq+ people, free speech and democracy.

Considering a streamer has essentially been slow tortured to death live on the streaming service Kick, another valid reason for online safety, and very disturbing for kids to watch

What a fascinating conclusion to draw from such a horrible event.

Restricting freedoms of the internet is not the correct response to tragic, but isolated incidents like that.

Kick itself is a site with a mixed reputation, pays streamers well which is why it's emerged as a valid contender to Twitch but really needs to get its moderation policies in order, along with the gambling incentives that it entices less scrupulous streamers into advertising. But that's all stuff specific to that site. Parents should just enable parental controls and block it and any other site they're concerned about. That's always been the existing and only good solution, pay attention to what your damn kids are using the internet for.

We are being overflooded with violent videos in movies and on tv for years and years, people used to think metal music and video games make children evil and violent. What an absolutely random conclusion to make taking one single occurrence of something horrible happening on the internet and extrapolating it to push a one-sided agenda that barely stretches the surface of the real issues happening in real world. Online world is a clear reflection of real life and it’s so funny and sad to see how people take one and discard the other completely as if those things aren’t interconnected.

A more correct way to approach this would be to see what actually happened, not blame a streaming service. As if it’s normal for 18+ year olds to watch something like this happening online.

Girls are sexualised from wayyy before 18 ALL OVER THE WORLD, yet we have to protect the childrens from dirty and unbecoming of an girl information about sexual health, menstruation and queerness online. The moment they turn 18, they are all sluts and on their own, especially if they make a bunch of money on OnlyFans selling instagram photos. Oh and BAN ONLYFANS!!1

Sorry for the rant but it is so infuriating. I see this whole ‘safety act’ as nothing but a way to make sex work more dangerous again (of course it relates only indirectly as a long term consequence) , limit girls’/women education (and therefore rights), eliminate trans people and make certain companies and people even richer. The latter is probably the most important thing and the rest is just collateral because very few people in power actively think of women when making any decisions like that.

Edited Wednesday at 16:581 day by pavi

1 hour ago, 777666jason said:

Considering a streamer has essentially been slow tortured to death live on the streaming service Kick, another valid reason for online safety, and very disturbing for kids to watch

Who do you think watches streamers? It’s 90% teenagers

3 minutes ago, Liam Sota said:

Who do you think watches streamers? It’s 90% teenagers

Then all the more reason

2 minutes ago, 777666jason said:

Then all the more reason

All the more reason to what? That’s their audience. The safety act is about stopping teenagers viewing adult content. Streaming is mostly aimed at teenagers to begin with. Somebody being tortured to death isn’t allowed full stop show me a site that says show your ID to watch people tortured to death? Doesn’t exist. Total rogue illegal sites that show extreme beheadings or something aren’t usually legal anyway so they’re not going to follow such an act

Because the presentation of this story is very tabloid-esque, I hope Jason knows that the vast majority of streamers are people playing video games or acting as influencers filming themselves in public and others watching them - just like with influencers there's a few doing bad stuff and the odd tragic headline like this but the vast majority are average citizens exploring ways to monetise their internet fame and this shouldn't be a commentary on the industry.

Of course this also ties in with the fact that violence on these platforms should be far more unacceptable than sex-related content, even if the latter should still be firmly 18+. It all tends to get lumped into one with censoring acts like these though.