whew, lots to read, better get started then! :blink:

Going back to Mark, he bottled out. :angry:

Edited February 20, 200718 yr by Susie

as the poll was a draw

 

are the good and the bad news still going to get posted in here :unsure:

Yes, I think so,. Me and Jup have still to decide. We might just put them in the naster news thread, but tbh I doubt there will be alot more articles to come, well for the next month or so. :D

Well the poll started and ended rather quickly so I didn't get to vote. So if it matters I say post them all. I think if we are going to support Robbie, we need to know what's being said and not said in the press.

 

As for Take That, I think they realize they screwed up and are back-tracking to show their support. I'm not saying it's not geniune, but I don't think they realized how rude they came across.

My hunch is that little Mark was 'got at' at the Brits and told not to say anything. I don't know by who. But I just have a feeling. <_<

My hunch is that little Mark was 'got at' at the Brits and told not to say anything. I don't know by who. But I just have a feeling. <_<

 

I agree. He seemed a little upset looking during the speach and looked as though he wanted to say something.

My hunch is that little Mark was 'got at' at the Brits and told not to say anything. I don't know by who. But I just have a feeling. <_<

 

They spent long enough been told what to do & what not to do by NMS when he was manager / you would think they would have learnt their lesson from that / . Is that not the very reason Rob left.

This whole TT / RW thing is stirred up by the press once again.

 

Well the poll started and ended rather quickly so I didn't get to vote. So if it matters I say post them all. I think if we are going to support Robbie, we need to know what's being said and not said in the press.

 

As for Take That, I think they realize they screwed up and are back-tracking to show their support. I'm not saying it's not geniune, but I don't think they realized how rude they came across.

 

Thats what i said! :rolleyes:

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Becks: I can save Robbie

 

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21/02/07

EXCLUSIVE

 

CARING David Beckham believes he can save pal Robbie Williams from ­­self-destruction with a special exercise regime.

 

The former England captain, 31, reckons getting superfit is the best way for troubled Robbie to beat his inner demons.

 

The pop icon, 33, is currently in rehab as he battles depression and an ­addiction to prescription drugs.

 

But Becks is convinced a daily ­workout can help him overcome his troubles. So he has been busy working on a gruelling fitness programme for Robbie to follow when he gets out of a specialist clinic in the States.

 

And Becks could soon be on hand in Hollywood to become the Robster’s ­personal trainer. He is quitting Real Madrid at the end of the Spanish ­football season to play for LA Galaxy.

 

A source revealed: “David is ready to do anything he can to help Robbie. As a top athlete, he firmly believes exercise can go a long way to helping him overcome his addictions and depression.

 

“Keeping active will help take Robbie’s mind off his ­problems and stop him sitting around dwelling on things.â€

 

Robbie, right, is a big football fan and plays regularly, but pals say he has still been spending much of his time lately ­lounging around his home in Los Angeles. Anti-depressants and sleeping pills are said to have left him “like a zombieâ€.

 

An insider said: “He spends hours on end slumped indoors on his own and does very little other than play video games and read comics.

 

“A regular exercise routine could help him snap out of that. It could be just what he needs to help get himself back on track.â€

 

The Beckhams are among a host of showbiz pals who have rallied round Robbie since he checked into The Meadows Clinic in Arizona on his birthday last week.

 

Victoria, 32, sent him a “get well soon†message as soon as she heard he had been admitted to the £2,250-a-night rehab centre.

 

Her husband and Robbie became close friends through their work as ambassadors for the children’s charity Unicef.

 

The singer, whose big hit Angels launched his solo career, performed at the Beckhams’ lavish pre-World Cup party last year, and Becks introduced him at the Live 8 gig in Hyde Park.

 

And the pals could be neighbours when Becks joins LA Galaxy. Posh was impressed by a £10 million mansion near Robbie’s pad during her recent house-hunting trip.

 

* What do YOU think? Is Robbie finished? Comment NOW at Have Your Say. http://www.dailystar.co.uk/have_your_say_story.html?sku=89

 

thanks to trws

 

Lots of lovely supportive comments at that link :heart: ...made my day .

This may not be the right place to post this since it doesn't deal with Robbie directly, but I thought that Robbie fans might like to see it. Its a video taken from the Craig Ferguson show on CBS (its a late night comedy show) where he addressed the whole celebrity issue in the media, specifically the death of Anna Nicole Smith and the sad situation Britney is in. He said that it doesn't feel right to make fun of people who are down and clearly need help, and that its only funny because they are famous. He's done that numerous times in the past himself, and now he doesn't feel good about it, and plans to stop it. Anyway, it seemed to make an impact in the US, people are talking about this and many were very impressed that someone stood up and started talking sense and in a very classy way. Lets hope that other members of the media take notice, on the both sides of Atlantic. :cheer:

 

Its quite long (12 min) but definately worth watching, anyone who has any interest in todays culture will find something in it. Ignore the audience, they laughed when they really weren't suppossed to, but the comments for the video show that the majority got the right message...

 

I don't know how to post an embedded video, so I'll just post a link: Craig Ferguson Show

awwwwwwwwwww david beckham wants to help his pal!!! :wub:

Edited February 23, 200718 yr by Supreme

Lorells, that was a very interesting monologue from craig and funny!!! :)

Edited February 23, 200718 yr by Supreme

Yea, I posted about that on my home board in a thread about Britney. Good for him for having some backbone to stand up to the negativity.

Joker Robbie on mend

25/02/07

EXCLUSIVE

 

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TROUBLED superstar Robbie Williams is ready to make a comeback after amazing rehab staff by laughing his way to recovery.

 

The star’s family say Robbie, who checked into the exclusive Meadows rehab clinic in Arizona on his 33rd birthday just 12 days ago, has used his trademark wit and humour in his battle to beat the demons.

 

And they reckon he will be well enough to leave the clinic long before the 30-day course is due to finish – and possibly as early as this week.

 

The news was confirmed by Robbie’s dad Pete Conway, who said humour is his son’s biggest weapon in his fight against an addiction to prescription pills.

 

Former cabaret singer Pete, 60, said: “Robbie is in good humour, cracking jokes and on good form.

 

“I’m extremely positive about him – he is doing well. I speak to him every day and he is in fine fettle.â€

 

Pete rubbished claims that Stoke-born Robbie is set for a long stay in rehab after it emerged he was hooked on a cocktail of anti-depressants, sleeping pills and caffeine.

 

Pete added: “I am looking forward to flying over to the States to see Rob. We are hoping to have him out of rehab very soon. Rob has plenty of friends and family around to support him.â€

 

Another family source said: “It looks like he could be out in days – he has amazed Meadows staff with his recovery.â€

 

Joker Robbie admitted in an interview last year that his camp funnyman routine is a massive part of his appeal, adding: “I’m the old-time musical. I’m the end of the pier. I’m Norman Wisdom. I’m big show tunes.

 

“Being in Take That has afforded me the opportunity to be as gay as I like. I’m gay as in the spectrum of choice that I have – to glory in Dancing Queen or to glory in a Britney Spears song.â€

 

Last week Robbie’s mum Jan, 56 – a drugs counsellor who is also set to fly out to join him in America this week – said going into rehab was “the best

present he could give himselfâ€.

 

The Angels singer is battling an addiction to the powerful anti-depressant Seroxat, which has been linked to suicidal tendencies in teenagers.

 

He also gets through 36 super-strength double espresso coffees, 60 Silk Cut cigarettes and around 20 cans of Red Bull – every day.

 

It is thought his plunge into depression and addiction has not been helped by losing out on the girl he thought he would marry.

 

Robbie fell in love with stunning Rachael Gilson when he was just 16 and he remains in love with her to this day.

 

But, last summer, his dream of settling down with the girl he called “the one†ended when she decided to marry another man.

 

According to Rachael’s family she and Robbie – who up until that moment remained “very close†– have not spoken since.

 

And a close pal of the singer told the Daily Star Sunday: “When Rachael got married last year Robbie was happy for her – but deep down he thought he’d be the one putting a ring on her finger.

 

“I think Rachael getting married started a process which tipped him over the edge.â€

 

A really great article from the Sentinal thanks to TRWS :s

 

 

 

HOME-GROWN SUPERSTAR DESERVES OUR SYMPATHY

 

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Nothing can beat the lie of money. The truth doesn't have a chance. The lie that money is the answer to your problems is accepted everywhere. We imagine there's no obstacle that can't be dissolved by the application of wedges of cash.

 

We believe this despite all the evidence to the contrary.

 

When people with money tell us they still have problems, we assume they're lying.

 

If you wake up in the morning hating yourself, wishing you were someone else, how would it help to wake up in the penthouse suite? Wouldn't that just make it worse? That you've got everything you're meant to want and it means nothing?

 

But if you're rich and admit you're unhappy, the less-rich get angry. They deny you your right to be miserable. They insist that your money should make you happy, and call you a pathetic whinger if you're not, and this too is meant to be okay.

 

We're hopelessly envious of the rich, the famous. And when Robbie Williams is admitted to rehab, we wish we had his money. We wish we had his problems.

 

Robbie's problems are well-documented. He's told us all about them: depression, insecurity, not really liking himself very much.

 

How these problems would have worked themselves out if he'd never joined a boyband, if he'd stayed in Burslem and become a well-known name in local cabaret, we'll never know.

 

Indisputably, money and fame haven't solved them. It appears that they've only made them worse.

 

Suggesting money will protect you against drug addiction is like suggesting petrol is good for putting out fires.

 

Drugs are the perfect cure for money and fame. Stay addicted long enough and you'll lose everything, no matter how rich you are.

 

Everyone is equal in drug addiction. Snorting cocaine on a private jet and smoking crack in an abandoned building bring you to exactly the same point.

 

Robbie's had problems with cocaine and alcohol before. This time, he's got a specifically American addiction: prescription drugs.

 

It's not uncommon. Powerful painkillers with euphoric side effects are much more freely available over there. Because they've been prescribed by a doctor, recovering alcoholics and addicts think they're safe.

 

If you're an addict of any kind the battle against addiction is lifelong. Whatever the substance, however long you've been substance-free, relapses happen.

 

If Kylie's cancer returned, she'd be awash in sympathy. Robbie deserves no less.

 

Our home-grown star, who's put hundreds of thousands into Port Vale and his charity, Give It Sum, has always been honest about the highs and lows of his career.

 

He'd understand people who are jealous of his life, his fame and his money because he was a dreamer himself.

 

He'd find it hard to understand the ones who deny his suffering, who think that the 50 million albums he's sold and his supposed £100 million fortune are a guarantee of a blessed life.

 

The lesson of age is that you never have enough money. The more you earn, the more you owe.

 

But we're still all out buying lottery tickets twice a week.

 

"The love of money is the root of all evil," the First Epistle to Timothy says, and those who indulge it have "pierced themselves through with many sorrows".

From The Sunday Times thanks to trws

February 25, 2007

 

Too much is never enough

 

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Robbie Williams’s return to rehab is a sad latest chapter in the story of his new life in America. So why does it just make us love him more, asks Paul Flynn

 

On Tuesday, February 13, Robbie Williams admitted himself to a rehab unit in Tucson, Arizona. A two-sentence press release issued by his patient press aide, Bryony Watts, made it clear that the matter was not open to further discussion with the artist’s people. “Robbie Williams has today been admitted into a treatment centre in America for his dependency on prescription drugs. There will be no further comment on this matter.†Camp Williams was keeping a dignified silence, even if the country wasn’t finding it easy to follow suit. The next day, The Sun ran a headline listing the extent of Robbie’s woes: “Happy pills, sleeping pills, 36 espressos, 60 Silk Cut, 20 Red Bulls every day.â€

 

The highest highs and lowest lows of Williams’s career have become a modern fascination. And if he chooses to mark the uppermost peaks — such as signing an £80m contract with EMI records — with a characteristic remark such as “I am now rich beyond my wildest dreamsâ€, then he should hardly be surprised if those ultimately footing the bill for those wild dreams are also interested in his troughs.

 

In 1995, after leaving Take That, he jumped onto a stage with his heroes, Oasis, with an abandon bordering on lunacy, high on anything he could get his hands on. In one pop of a flashbulb, Robbie Williams was transformed into the public symbol of that raucous, ungainly journey from boy to man. As with George Michael before him, the astonishing solo success that followed that one giant leap into the unknown would come to epitomise the idea of pop escape.

 

Williams’s musical career has been littered with plaudits. Over the course of a decade, he has been responsible for at least one modern pop classic, Angels, a succession of multimillion-selling, increasingly confessional albums, that record-breaking record deal and high-octane live performances that have wowed audiences from Brazil to Bangkok. He has also made a careful record of his ability to sex his way around the world, with few or no strings attached. At 33, he should be buoyed by a vigorous sense of self-improvement, shouting out loud and clear to working-class northern lads with little sense of entitlement but a bucketload of ambition that anything is possible. He should be the man to be. So why does his story seem so unappealing? Why does Robbie — now washed up on prescription meds, allegedly fearing that he is heading the same way as, at best, fat Elvis or, at worst, Anna Nicole Smith — seem so desperately unhappy?

 

The date of his entry into rehab could not have been more poignant. Not only was it his 33rd birthday, it was also the day before both St Valentine’s Day and the Brit Awards, the British record industry’s annual bun fight over who is biggest and best. Both would have been far from cheery occasions for him, if he were not in an exclusion zone in Tucson. In an unremarkable year for male solo artistry in British music, neither Robbie nor his latest album was even nominated. Entitled Rudebox, that album arrived with a bold proclamation by Williams that it was the record he had been waiting his whole life to make, but it has been a commercial lead balloon. Most notable, and most hurtful for Robbie, his old band, Take That, had the biggest-selling album of the season with their reunion package, Beautiful World. Watching them scoop the gong for best single at the Brits would have been unbearable.

 

Anyone who has met Williams will tell you the same thing about him: that he views the world as a series of little grudge matches. Part of his neurosis — and his incredible drive and ambition — is his inability to let things go. He still carries a burning and very public resentment towards Take That’s former manager, Nigel Martin-Smith. And on the song Good Doctor, he spells out the change he has made in his past six years of recreational sobriety, while living in LA: “The glory days are gone, and we’ve all stopped ’avin’ it. No raves no more, just bedside cabinet.†This is not a life that kids would aspire to. It is the antithesis of the modern dream of fame.

 

A little clue to the further sting of St Valentine’s Day can be found in Williams’s autobiography, Feel. Much of the narrative is taken up by his supposed search for a wife. Yet within it, there is little in the way of romantic acumen. There are tabloid stings set up with Rod Stewart’s former wife, Rachel Hunter. There are a couple of tawdry episodes with Westlife groupies and a hint that he may have had sex on a video shoot. There is his compulsive inability to sleep alone, which sometimes leads him to ask male friends to share his bed. And the whole thing is underpinned by an absolute absence of any form of intimate love in his life.

 

Which is, after all, why we have all fallen in love with Robbie Williams. He has come to represent the modern mess of celebrity, its damage and pitfalls. He was the last pop star to emerge before the reality-TV generation. He predates the inexorable rise of the gossip glossies. His lack of luck in finding personal happiness has gone hand in hand with his putting his innermost life on a public stage. In the upper echelons of celebrity, Williams is one of the few to have worn his heart on his sleeve. We know far more about him than we do about his only peers in the top tier of young British celebrity: the Beckhams and Kate Moss.

 

When I last interviewed Williams, I asked him how long he had been single. He said five years. I commented at the time that after a spell like that, a woman of similar age might be sent into a panic, thinking that she was unmarriageable, that she might not have children. He said, with rather doleful eyes: “Yes, I suppose she might.†I then asked him when he had last been in love. There was a sharp intake of breath, and he whispered: “Never.â€

 

Since he went back into rehab, it has been clear that Robbie Williams is still the nation’s pet project, perhaps more so than ever. Every woman wants to save him, see?

 

Btw, here is an absolutelly ridiculous article slagging off Robbie. http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/search/di...ntertain_me.php

 

You are able to post your comments. Loads of done so, inluding myself. The more th better. ^_^

 

 

I hope this 'Echo' is from England because in my comment to this article

thats what I assumed!! -_-

It is from England Supreme, and thank you for supporting Robbie on-line.