May 3, 200718 yr Fascist eh ? :unsure: 18) Abolition of Welsh, Scottish and London assembly’s 21) Union jack to be waved from every public building and annual festivities to celebrate St George’s day to increase national pride Still a fascist ?? yeah right :lol: :unsure: ah...so it's fine for the English to display their flag proudly (because the Union jack is an ENGLISH flag - not mine), be proud of who you are, be vocal about it, displayyour err... 'national pride'... but it's also OK to ensure Wales and Scotland, once again, have to endure a fascist dictator like the one you and your fascistis followers voted in time and time again, without a single care for anybody else, when barely a single person in both countries voted that person in? It's ok to let these 2 countries, once again, be utterly forgotten about by Government, simply and spitefully because they didn't vote your party in in the first place? I suggest a visit to both Cardiff and Glasgow... compare the difference in the crumbling wrecks they were under the Tories. Fascist? Too right... moreso than ever after reading that pile of airheaded Daily Mail-inspired garbage.
May 3, 200718 yr ah...so it's fine for the English to display their flag proudly (because the Union jack is an ENGLISH flag - not mine), be proud of who you are, be vocal about it, displayyour err... 'national pride'... but it's also OK to ensure Wales and Scotland, once again, have to endure a fascist dictator like the one you and your fascistis followers voted in time and time again, without a single care for anybody else, when barely a single person in both countries voted that person in? It's ok to let these 2 countries, once again, be utterly forgotten about by Government, simply and spitefully because they didn't vote your party in in the first place? I suggest a visit to both Cardiff and Glasgow... compare the difference in the crumbling wrecks they were under the Tories. Fascist? Too right... moreso than ever after reading that pile of airheaded Daily Mail-inspired garbage. I don't read the Daily Mail Russ, vile racist homophobic paper of which I am neither I merely believe in 1) The union 2) A united Ireland with eventually the republic of Ireland uniting with NI 3) Reclaiming the flags from the BNP and other far right knuckledragger parties When I was in Malaysia recently the national flag flew everywhere, there was a great sense of national pride, in America and Australia they have days of national pride just about everywhere infact except Britain where it is supposedly racist :manson: Think of the union jack and the cross of st george you straight away think of BNP/Combat 18 and National Front and that is a situation that needs to be reversed, flying the flag again and showing the flag as a means of national pride takes it away from the racist scum Edited May 3, 200718 yr by Vic Vega
May 3, 200718 yr I agree with all the animal ones, but on the education section 2 hours sport a day is a bit too much I think. And your school times are too long. I know some people who have to get buses, leaving at 3-ish some don't get home till 5 as it is. Making it start at 7.30 is way too early aswell. You'd have to get up at about 6am (earlier if there's several needing to get ready) and even earlier if you have to travel a long way... I see where you are coming from but at the end of the day people would have to be leaving for work at those sort of times if they were not at school, maybe 8am would be more practical but I still think that given as jobs start around that sort of time that people would have to get used to those sort of timings. Physical fitness is very important too as is team building and team bonding stuff, a healthy body = a healthy mind and less burden on the NHS in future years, child obesity and the junk food culture needs completely changing if the NHS is going to cope in future years
May 3, 200718 yr The St George's flag reminds me of vile chavs. -_- It's such a chavvy looking thing. :manson:
May 3, 200718 yr craig.. i dont get it.. you say your not homophobic but admit to voting for a homophobic government... tebbit was extremely anti-gay.
May 3, 200718 yr The St George's flag reminds me of vile chavs. -_- It's such a chavvy looking thing. :manson: i dont know whats more vile, chavs or them clowns in your sig :)
May 3, 200718 yr craig.. i dont get it.. you say your not homophobic but admit to voting for a homophobic government... tebbit was extremely anti-gay. I supported the party purely on economic grounds Rob no other reason other than I think the economy would be in the best shape under them, I not for one moment agreed with every single policy there were several and still are that I do not agree with. I believe strongly in the minimum wage for instance and the rights of trade unions, both policies tories are utterly against, I believe in the right to demonstrate, I believe in gay marriages again 2 policies the tories are against, I am appalled the tories backed the war in Iraq etc, but economically I trust the tories the most with the economy which is what I base my votes on
May 3, 200718 yr i dont know whats more vile, chavs or them clowns in your sig :) :rofl: Scooch probably are chavs. :o
May 3, 200718 yr I supported the party purely on economic grounds Rob no other reason other than I think the economy would be in the best shape under them. but is money truly all that you care about, Vic? You could say that many despots run a good economy... but could you honestly bring yourself to vote for them JUST because they know how to re-arrange their figures? The simple fact is, Vic, Margaret Thatcher ran a good (ultimately false) economy for ENGLAND. Not Wales. Not Scotland. And why did she omit these 2 countries from any of her policies? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T VOTE FOR HER. That's why. Spite - nothing more - guided this most dangerous of British Prime Ministers. Surely, when voting, you think outside the box, of the other people who are maybe not as well off as you? Did it never, ever occur to you that a vote for this vile woman was a vote supporting extreme homophobia, and a vote that was basically kicking the working classes squarely in the teeth? You say you support minimum wage and trade unions - so how, how, how could you not have supported the Miners' strike? A strike they fought admittedly under a despicable leader, but a fight they fought honestly and truthfully. For what was RIGHT. Everything those miners said would happen - happened. Thatcher lied through her BUPA-assisted teeth throughout. How can you hold your head up high and not have on your conscience what she did to Britain's working men (under a certain wage)? Your support of the Tories, apart from being utterly baffling, is, at best, bizarre, at worst, stinkingly selfish.
May 3, 200718 yr but is money truly all that you care about, Vic? You could say that many despots run a good economy... but could you honestly bring yourself to vote for them JUST because they know how to re-arrange their figures? The simple fact is, Vic, Margaret Thatcher ran a good (ultimately false) economy for ENGLAND. Not Wales. Not Scotland. And why did she omit these 2 countries from any of her policies? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T VOTE FOR HER. That's why. Spite - nothing more - guided this most dangerous of British Prime Ministers. Surely, when voting, you think outside the box, of the other people who are maybe not as well off as you? Did it never, ever occur to you that a vote for this vile woman was a vote supporting extreme homophobia, and a vote that was basically kicking the working classes squarely in the teeth? You say you support minimum wage and trade unions - so how, how, how could you not have supported the Miners' strike? A strike they fought admittedly under a despicable leader, but a fight they fought honestly and truthfully. For what was RIGHT. Everything those miners said would happen - happened. Thatcher lied through her BUPA-assisted teeth throughout. How can you hold your head up high and not have on your conscience what she did to Britain's working men (under a certain wage)? Your support of the Tories, apart from being utterly baffling, is, at best, bizarre, at worst, stinkingly selfish. I don't have the luxury to do anything other than vote on the basis of my wallet, working 50-60 hrs overall a week I want to see as much as possible in my pocket instead of taken by the government to help finance illegal wars or whatever so while I care about things like education, the minimum wage and the NHS and so on caring about them doesn't put a roof over my head, feed me or pay my bills I have to take a hard headed approach and look at what is in my pocket at the end of each month compared with previous administrations and ultimately I am prepared to bite the bullet over a few things I feel uncomfortable about politically if it means I can pay all my monthly bills and still have some left over. I am a good £2k+ a year worse off under Labour, doesn't sound a huge amount of money but it soon adds up
May 3, 200718 yr I'm just back from the polling station. Honest to God I had to fight my way through all these 'information' people insisting on trying to explain the ballot papers to me. 'Go away, I told them. I bloody well know what I'm doing!' :lol: There did seem to be quite a lot of names already scored off the list though. Which isn't usually the case. Maybe it'll be a decent turnout. :cheer:
May 3, 200718 yr I asked how the turnout had been at my polling station - she told me 'poor'... :angry: But then, when not a single canvasser bothers to come knocking people's doors round here securing votes - who can blame people not bothering voting for them?
May 3, 200718 yr Are the English Council Elections still on First Past the Post or are they based on PR now? :unsure:
May 3, 200718 yr Are the English Council Elections still on First Past the Post or are they based on PR now? :unsure: First past the post, well I only voted for 1 candidate
May 3, 200718 yr How boring. :( I had 8 candidates for my Local Council. I had to rate them all. My favourite Number 1, my next favourite Number 2 etc... But I only rated 1 to 4 as the other 4 weren't getting any vote from me! It was good fun. Like Eurovision or something. :lol:
May 3, 200718 yr but is money truly all that you care about, Vic? You could say that many despots run a good economy... but could you honestly bring yourself to vote for them JUST because they know how to re-arrange their figures? The simple fact is, Vic, Margaret Thatcher ran a good (ultimately false) economy for ENGLAND. Not Wales. Not Scotland. And why did she omit these 2 countries from any of her policies? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T VOTE FOR HER. That's why. Spite - nothing more - guided this most dangerous of British Prime Ministers. Surely, when voting, you think outside the box, of the other people who are maybe not as well off as you? Did it never, ever occur to you that a vote for this vile woman was a vote supporting extreme homophobia, and a vote that was basically kicking the working classes squarely in the teeth? You say you support minimum wage and trade unions - so how, how, how could you not have supported the Miners' strike? A strike they fought admittedly under a despicable leader, but a fight they fought honestly and truthfully. For what was RIGHT. Everything those miners said would happen - happened. Thatcher lied through her BUPA-assisted teeth throughout. How can you hold your head up high and not have on your conscience what she did to Britain's working men (under a certain wage)? Your support of the Tories, apart from being utterly baffling, is, at best, bizarre, at worst, stinkingly selfish. spot on russ, you put it beter then i ever could. especially about the miners being right, scargill being right, thatcher lied, it was nothing more then a union bashing job where non was needed.
May 3, 200718 yr but is money truly all that you care about, Vic? You could say that many despots run a good economy... but could you honestly bring yourself to vote for them JUST because they know how to re-arrange their figures? The simple fact is, Vic, Margaret Thatcher ran a good (ultimately false) economy for ENGLAND. Not Wales. Not Scotland. And why did she omit these 2 countries from any of her policies? BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T VOTE FOR HER. That's why. Spite - nothing more - guided this most dangerous of British Prime Ministers. Surely, when voting, you think outside the box, of the other people who are maybe not as well off as you? Did it never, ever occur to you that a vote for this vile woman was a vote supporting extreme homophobia, and a vote that was basically kicking the working classes squarely in the teeth? You say you support minimum wage and trade unions - so how, how, how could you not have supported the Miners' strike? A strike they fought admittedly under a despicable leader, but a fight they fought honestly and truthfully. For what was RIGHT. Everything those miners said would happen - happened. Thatcher lied through her BUPA-assisted teeth throughout. How can you hold your head up high and not have on your conscience what she did to Britain's working men (under a certain wage)? Your support of the Tories, apart from being utterly baffling, is, at best, bizarre, at worst, stinkingly selfish. Hear Hear mate... Thatcher didn't give a flying fukk about Wales or Scotland, which is the main reason why we voted for independent assemblies, and both Scotland and Wales have thrived without the spiteful, evil policies of the Tories, and particularly Thatcherism... In the 80s when we had North sea oil, those Tory b/astards nicked it all, Scotland was the ONLY oil-producing country in the sodding WORLD that was actually worse off for having it.... And they wonder why they got utterly wiped out in that glorious night back in '97 over the border...... It was Thatcher, it was Major, it was the whole damn lot of those evil blue b/astards...... In Wales it was the same story, mining communities destroyed by Thatcher's spiteful crusade against the Working Classes.... <_<
May 3, 200718 yr spot on russ, you put it beter then i ever could. especially about the miners being right, scargill being right, thatcher lied, it was nothing more then a union bashing job where non was needed. ...And thanks to Thatcher's destruction of the Unions now we have unscrupulous employers and agencies drafting in cheap migrant, NON-UNIONISED labour from Eastern Europe and exploiting the hell out of them and driving down wages.... Which is doing neither the Migrant nor the indigenous British workers absolutely any good at all.... The only winners - The Capitalists, the bosses, the fukkin' Fat Cats smoking their cigars and drinking Champagne..... <_< <_< <_<
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