Exactly, Scotty. I think some people with these wild claims need to actually apply some commonsense and just think why the parents would actually want to do it.

Also, where did this myth the parents took 45 mins to call the police come from? I just checked on BBC News... they called at 10pm, just 10 minutes after they'd returned to find Madeleine missing...

To say they have her hidden away somewhere safely is just utterly ridiculous imo. What would the point in that be? What would the parents gain from doing that? Would they be doing it for money? Doubt it as they are probebly quite wealthy considering they both have very good jobs. I can see absolutelly no reason they would do something like that. And I also can see no reason how they could've killed her, and then in 15 minutes hidden her body. Have you been following the case? The entire area has been searched endlessly by experts so there is little chance in that, unless they are professional murderers. :rolleyes:

 

If you just looks at the state of that mother. She has been in bits and looks completelly drained. I can only imagine how much the parents are beating themselfs up with guilt over leaving her. They should be ashamed and I am quite sure they are. But you can clearly see the state they are in. The father to a lesser extent but thats understandable as he is a man. I would'nt mind if some of the claims that the parents were involved actually made sence but they don't, and also it is in no way suprising the other kids were'nt taken. There could've been only one person who abducted her, therfor I doubt they could've take all three of them, especially two 2 year olds who would've been screaming. And also, if claims are true that she is in Morocco then there is a chance she is being used for child labour, therfor two year olds probebly would've have been useless to these sick people.

 

Also, I checked and they called the police 15 minutes after she had gone, not 45.

 

i didn't say they hid her away, so i don't know where you pulled that from. i said they may have given her away. again, who knows what the point would be. maybe they don't like her? i don't know. i don't know the parents. i'm not inside their minds. what does wealth have to do with it? so you're basing how much love a child receives on how much their parents earn? please :rolleyes: and if you read MY posts in here (not sure about everybody else), i have said right from the jump that i'm speaking on various articles i've read and information friends have given me.

 

15 minutes, 45 minutes. they're still minutes too late and 15 minutes is still plenty of time for the abductor (i'll call them that) get away.

 

MY point is, they refused onsite babysitting. why? if money isn't an issue, as you say, why didn't they take this offer up? they left their door unlocked, they left two toddlers and a 5 year old (?) girl on their own in a foreign country and delayed calling the police.

 

you're telling me that from what i just said above, you cannot see ANY reason why people like myself are jumping to the conclusion that the parents are involved somehow? surely you can at least see that.

Exactly, Scotty. I think some people with these wild claims need to actually apply some commonsense and just think why the parents would actually want to do it.

Also, where did this myth the parents took 45 mins to call the police come from? I just checked on BBC News... they called at 10pm, just 10 minutes after they'd returned to find Madeleine missing...

 

from articles that have been printed. do you think we just plucked it out of thin air?

 

why would they want to do it? well, if i was in their mind or behind their closed doors with them, i'm sure i could give you an answer.

 

this wouldn't be the first time parents have got rid of their child, so i don't know why you're acting like this is such an alien theory. it's a POSSIBILITY which i (and others) think has happened. there's nothing stupid about it at all. far-fetched, maybe, but not stupid. it's happened before plenty of times, particularly in the US.

i didn't say they hid her away, so i don't know where you pulled that from. i said they may have given her away. again, who knows what the point would be. maybe they don't like her? i don't know. i don't know the parents. i'm not inside their minds. what does wealth have to do with it? so you're basing how much love a child receives on how much their parents earn? please :rolleyes: and if you read MY posts in here (not sure about everybody else), i have said right from the jump that i'm speaking on various articles i've read and information friends have given me.

 

15 minutes, 45 minutes. they're still minutes too late and 15 minutes is still plenty of time for the abductor (i'll call them that) get away.

 

MY point is, they refused onsite babysitting. why? if money isn't an issue, as you say, why didn't they take this offer up? they left their door unlocked, they left two toddlers and a 5 year old (?) girl on their own in a foreign country and delayed calling the police.

 

you're telling me that from what i just said above, you cannot see ANY reason why people like myself are jumping to the conclusion that the parents are involved somehow? surely you can at least see that.

 

Going on heresay of what other people have told you proves why they are so many inaccuracies in your arguement. There is a big difference between 15 minutes and 45 minutes. 15 minutes is in no way a long time for them to call the police. They would've got in, noticed she was gone, at first probebly thought she had wandered off, so would've gone looking for her around the area first. You cannot expect them to have known straight away she had been taken.

 

Various members of their family have all been saying how much they loved Maddie, and as I have already said the mother looks in bits and has lost alot of weight throughout the past three weeks. To use the arguement that they did'nt like her is so silly. She was their daughter, and had been for four years. Why would they suddenly not like her and just give her away and wait until they are away in Portugal to do so. If they wanted to give her away then they could've just put her into foster care or something, not go through all of this. The claim makes little sence.

 

As for the babysitting servise. yes they were very stupid. No-one is denying that fact. They were stupid and obviously thought it was safe enough to leave them.

 

And you have misunderstood my post. I asked why they would want to give her away, hide her or anything like that. There is a fund set up where they are getting money in order for them to be able to stay in Portugal for as long as need be, so I asked whether you thought they did it to get money. Nothing to do with how much they love or based on wealth.

 

And I am not saying it is impossible that the parents were involved. But the reasons you have given are very weak IMO.

Various members of their family have all been saying how much they loved Maddie, and as I have already said the mother looks in bits and has lost alot of weight throughout the past three weeks. To use the arguement that they did'nt like her is so silly. She was their daughter, and had been for four years. Why would they suddenly not like her and just give her away and wait until they are away in Portugal to do so. If they wanted to give her away then they could've just put her into foster care or something, not go through all of this. The claim makes little sence.

 

As for the babysitting servise. yes they were very stupid. No-one is denying that fact. They were stupid and obviously thought it was safe enough to leave them.

1- The family members arent exactly going to say they didnt love her now, are they. In fact, i very much doubt any one in the family would know about it if the parents had been involve, as if the whole family new, the news would surely leak somewhere. The mother isnt exactly going to be going on looking like hot property, with a nice big smile either. It could be that shes lost the weight through crying and depression, if for example one kid did fight with the other and Madelaine came off worse.

 

2- NOBODY thinks it safe to leave 3 young children alone in an unlocked apartment in a foreign country. NOBODY.

Going on heresay of what other people have told you proves why they are so many inaccuracies in your arguement. There is a big difference between 15 minutes and 45 minutes. 15 minutes is in no way a long time for them to call the police. They would've got in, noticed she was gone, at first probebly thought she had wandered off, so would've gone looking for her around the area first. You cannot expect them to have known straight away she had been taken.

 

Various members of their family have all been saying how much they loved Maddie, and as I have already said the mother looks in bits and has lost alot of weight throughout the past three weeks. To use the arguement that they did'nt like her is so silly. She was their daughter, and had been for four years. Why would they suddenly not like her and just give her away and wait until they are away in Portugal to do so. If they wanted to give her away then they could've just put her into foster care or something, not go through all of this. The claim makes little sence.

 

As for the babysitting servise. yes they were very stupid. No-one is denying that fact. They were stupid and obviously thought it was safe enough to leave them.

 

And you have misunderstood my post. I asked why they would want to give her away, hide her or anything like that. There is a fund set up where they are getting money in order for them to be able to stay in Portugal for as long as need be, so I asked whether you thought they did it to get money. Nothing to do with how much they love or based on wealth.

 

And I am not saying it is impossible that the parents were involved. But the reasons you have given are very weak IMO.

 

i actually read the 45 minute thing in some paper last week. regarding the whole timing thing, one parent would have gone looking, the other would have called the police right away. that's what most parents would do when their child goes missing anyway.

 

and who said they suddenly stopped loving her? it could have happened over a gradual period of time. i don't think it's a silly argument at all. plenty of parents don't love their kids the way they should be love all around the world. it's a sad fact of life, unfortunetley. going to a foreign country and then giving her away is easier for them because it's such a rare thing you hear about on the news. again, i don't know the reasoning but maybe the person they 'gave' maddie to wasn't eligible for fostering? i don't know. i'm not in their minds.

 

maybe it was safe to leave them? :huh: well if that's the case, then their other kids need to be taken away from the immedietley.

 

i don't think they did it for money at all. nope. i'm not sure what to believe. abduction seems the most likely scenario, but it doesn't mean all of the others are to be ruled out.

 

Maybe they did give her away for a certain sum? Note it was the baby girl who went missing as opposed to the 5 year old girl who would grow up with memories of her old life..

What 5-year-old girl? :huh:

To say only calling the police after 15 minutes is suspicious is ridiculous. If people called the police when they just had an inkling something was wrong all the time, before checking the situation out properly, there'd be hundreds and hundreds of false alarms everyday. And besides, they were probably a little reluctant to admit to the police they'd left three kids on their own unless absolutely necessary...

And like Scotty said, why wouldn't they just go through the adoption procedure if they didn't love her (which again is almost certainly c**p given they had two more kids after her and the raft of photos).

EDIT: Why the hell is "crap censored here?

Edited May 24, 200718 yr by Danny

LMAO. I think some people in here need to stop watching so many soaps.

 

The official police theory that she was abducted from her bed is the official police theory for a reason you know: because it is the theory that is most likely and has the most proof behind it. The suggestion that one of the parents killed her in one of the 5-10 minute gaps where they went to check on her is ridiculous to say the least... do you really think in that short amount of time, they'd have chance to: kill the girl; plan out what to do to cover themselves; go somewhere sufficiently far away from the resort; dispose of the body; get back to the resort; compose themsevlves so that no-one would suspect them; re-enter the restaurant. And what about this fairly big question: WHY would middle-class people, with no criminal records, who have two other kids and so clearly want children, WANT to kill their daughter?

 

Btw, some of the posts in here are so libellous, I'm pretty sure the site could techincally be sued because of them...

 

Absolute bollocks... No one is actually making an accusation... Merely putting across a possible theory... Christ, everyone is so busy bumming these two fukktards and not actually criticising them for their total lack of common sense when it comes to looking after their own kids.... What the fukk is libellous about questioning their parenting skills prey tell...? They left THREE KIDS ON THEIR OWN IN A HOTEL ROOM IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY WITH THE DOOR UNLOCKED. THEY NEGLECTED TO USE THE ONSITE RESORT BABYSITTING SERVICE EVEN THOUGH THAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE MOST EMINENTLY SENSIBLE THING TO DO. THEY WAITED 45 MINUTES TO CALL THE POLICE.... Anything about those statements remotely untrue.....? It all adds up to a lot of smoke in my view, maybe there's a fire, maybe not.. Alls I and anyone else is saying is that cases of parents killing their offspring HAS happened before, and to not even look at the possibility that something aint right here is, to say the least, neglectful....

 

eh?... why would the parents WANT to kill the kid?...

 

Gee, I dunno mate, why did that mother in America premeditatively kill her kids and then put the blame on a non-existent black male....? Why would a parent abuse a child...? Too many people seem to be totally discounting this as if it never happens.. It does... All to bloody often..... <_<

 

 

 

I'm sick of this news story now. Its simply being used as a tool for the media to sell their product, sell papers, viewing figures etc.

 

What about all the young black girls who go missing, the young boys who go missing? They're just not as pretty for the media to use in looks or story. It shows the hypocricy that exists so heavily in western society.

 

What makes it worse too is the circumstances under which these knobs are getting so much attention. Its saddening, it really is.

What about all the young black girls who go missing, the young boys who go missing? They're just not as pretty for the media to use in looks or story. It shows the hypocricy that exists so heavily in western society.

 

Exactly mate... I've seen posters of missing black and Asian kids on buses and tubes... Erm, exactly WHERE is the two million euro "fighting fund" and constant media attention for these kids then....? Are Black/Asian/Muslim kids who come from rough, working class estates in Mile End, Camden or Hackney somehow less deserving cases than a pretty, white middle-class blonde girl going missing in Portugal....? I don't think so..... But the assumption is that they are, and it makes my fukkin' blood boil..... <_< <_<

 

Here we are divesting all our attention to a child who goes missing in Portugal, and yet do we even care to mention the children who go missing in our own neighbourhoods....? I think there is something VERY, VERY wrong with that..... Surely ALL cases of kids going missing should be treated with the same gravity and importance....

Gee, I dunno mate, why did that mother in America premeditatively kill her kids and then put the blame on a non-existent black male....? Why would a parent abuse a child...? Too many people seem to be totally discounting this as if it never happens.. It does... All to bloody often..... <_<

 

sorry but if 2 yes 2 parents wanted to kill their kid, surely theyd do it somewhere they knew... like at home where a fatal accident could have occured.

 

yes parents do kill their kids... NO this two DIDNT.

What the fukk is libellous about questioning their parenting skills prey tell...?

Like I said before, there's a big difference between criticising their parenting skills and accusing them of murder...

And sorry, the claims that the media are racist when it comes to this type of thing are c**p. If it was a 3/4-year-old black British girl who had been abducted, there'd be exactly the same amount of attention... the ONLY discrimination factor that comes into it is gender, as there's some ridiculous idea that boys could take care of themselves better if they were abducted (though if as young as 3 then there probably would have been the same amount of attention)...

And even if there is "smoke", that still doesn't explain when they killed her, how they got rid of the body so quickly, how the body hasn't been found after the area has been combed over numerous times, and why they'd want to do it in the first place.

Edited May 25, 200718 yr by Danny

According to gmtv since she went missing 1,200 children have in the UK alone.

Who cares about them?

Were those 1200 abducted? My guess is the vast majority ran away...

Were any of those 1200 as young as 3? I'm guessing none of them were anywhere near it...

The media's whole purpose is to inform people of events like this, and the fact people are begrudging them for doing a good thing (whether their intentions are good is another thing, but it's undeniable tehe best chance of Madeleine being returned lie in intense media coverage) astounds me...

Edited May 25, 200718 yr by Danny

Yeah it showed a list of the ones most vulnerable.

sorry but if 2 yes 2 parents wanted to kill their kid, surely theyd do it somewhere they knew... like at home where a fatal accident could have occured.

 

Actually, I think having her "spirited away" in a foreign country is in many ways a better plan and easier to execute... Personally, if I was of the mind to do something like that, it would be as far as possible from my own backyard where everyone knew me....

 

And, why is it just so unbelievable that these two might have done something like this, there really are just so many things not right about this whole thing... Also, have the police come up with any other logical answers... Every other lead they've been pursuing seems to be drawing a blank... Maybe it's time for them to think a little bit "out of the box" here....

 

 

 

And sorry, the claims that the media are racist when it comes to this type of thing are c**p. If it was a 3/4-year-old black British girl who had been abducted, there'd be exactly the same amount of attention...

 

Rubbish, the tabloid press spout the most evilly racist garbage in this country, an utter disgrace to our nation... And, you're wrong anyway, I've seen posters on buses and tubes for kids as young as 6 or 7, you don't know what you're talking about mate, I LIVE in London, I SEE this depressing sh!t on a daily basis, and I see it being IGNORED by the bloody media... How can it be somehow less of a priority whether the kid is 3 or 13 anyway, what, 13 year olds dont get abducted, raped and slaughtered <_< <_< ...? Race and class has gotta be a factor, as well as gender, you aint gonna convince me otherwise....

 

Holly and Jessica were well over 3 years old, and look at all the press attention there as well.... And, again, pretty, white middle-class blonde girls from good families.... And, all the while that circus was going on, MORE estate kids suffering similar fates and being ignored.... Sorry, but it aint right.... Met Commissioner Sir Ian Blair was totally spot on to criticise the press IMO....

According to gmtv since she went missing 1,200 children have in the UK alone.

Who cares about them?

 

EXACTLY Lucy, spot on... These kids should be getting just as much attention as this case, bottom line....