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I'm pretty positive it IS Guy on that pic, I'd even put money on it.

I'm happy too that they seem to be mates again and if they are working together, even better. :yahoo:

I'd like an album on which Rob works with Guy but other people as well. And that will hopefully blow people away.

The common opinion seems to be that Rob's career is as good as over anyway and as annoying as I find that :angry:

maybe it will be to his advantage. Nothing much is expected from him anymore, so if he manages to do a hit single/album

it would be even sweeter.God, how I'd like to see certain people grovel :naughty:

 

I agree. At this point I just am beyond sick of braindead fools in the media constantly saying Rob's carear is over etc, and so many of the public (id' go as far as saying the majority) think the same, even though if most singers released a rap/electro album and alianted alot of their fanbase, and did'nt do any sort of promo for it, they would'nt have done half as good as Rob did with Rudebox. :rolleyes:

 

But I just want nothing more now than for Rob to come back next year, bigger and better than ever. I would just love that to happen and for all the begrudging bast*rds over the past year to eat their words, ie 3am bitches. :w00t:

Jup...Why are you calling Scotty ' ScOOty'....is it a term on endearment......... :huh:

 

I like variety. I vary between Scooty, Potty, Scotty. Whatever takes my fancy. :P

 

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I'm pretty positive it IS Guy on that pic, I'd even put money on it.

I'm happy too that they seem to be mates again and if they are working together, even better. :yahoo:

I'd like an album on which Rob works with Guy but other people as well. And that will hopefully blow people away.

The common opinion seems to be that Rob's career is as good as over anyway and as annoying as I find that :angry:

maybe it will be to his advantage. Nothing much is expected from him anymore, so if he manages to do a hit single/album

it would be even sweeter.God, how I'd like to see certain people grovel :naughty:

 

I agree with all of this. I would be very interested to see how they work together now, with the changes they will both have experienced over the last few years. I would not want a 100% Guy collaboration on an album, as I loved Intensive Care with Stephen, and all the variety on Rudebox. I wouldn't want a Guy lead off single either. The last thing I want is for lots of comments that Rob has gone grovelling back to Guy to save his career :( But I do want to see them friends and working together again

Tbh, the media are going to slag Rob off no matter what or who he works with, but throughout his whole carear he has never got the abuse he has revieved over the past year or so due to the underperformance of Rudebox, before the media as much as they wanted could'nt constantly slag him off because he was so mega successful, so I just hope he comes back and is bigger than ever to shut them all up. Rob has proved he does not need Guy to be hugely successful, his most successful studio album ever (IC) has nothing to do with Guy whatsoever. We all know how thick and ignorant the press are, so no matter what they will always find an exuse to put him down, but if he returns massivly successful he won't recieve anywhere near as much negetivity, and as far as them saying it would all be down to Guy, well they've said that throughout Rob's whole carear, so it would be nothing new, and I very much doubt Rob gives a $h!t anymore. I am certain Rob's best material ever is yet to come

Yes Rob's most successful album to date was without Guy, yes he's received criticism and negativity for everything under the sun and always will, and yes if he comes back mega successful hopefully some of that negativity will stop and the nay sayers will have to eat their words ... BUT, if he comes back with a successful Guy collaborated lead off single, it will again be Guy comes to the rescue and Rob can't get a hit or be successful without him, no matter how well IC has done. And we all know the general public has no long term memory and will believe whatever they are fed from the craploids and critics alike.

 

I'd love to hear what they have come up with but I hope that the first single will not have Guy included so that Rob can show he can do it without him ... and I hope there's only a couple of songs with Guy not the majority of the album. Ofcourse regardless of how many different people Rob collaborates with on the album, its success, will no doubt be all due to Guy being on it and that is the only thing that turns me off Rob working with Guy again.

I do not care what they say...what does it matter as long as I can enjoy what he brings out no matter who it is with. The press are gonna write what they want to anyway & some of the press ( & we know who ) continue to say negative things no matter what as they just do not like him anyway.I have stopped buying those s**t papers long ago & just ignore it now.

He got the best reviews in a long time for Rudebox in the music press & still got slated by the tabloid press....I have given up worrying about it as ROB is big enough as this age of his life to do what he wants to do & make his own decision about who he works with.

I also noticed at the time of the Rudebox release that some people were very quick to put totally negative reviews of the album forward in Amazon & this also put people off buying it....How many people are there in his fanclubs..official & unofficial & how many of those people bothered to write any kind of a good review ...I know I did ...how many others did...he got about 220 reviews on Amazon in total so that number answers the question really. Action speaks louder than words anyday....

I hope when he releases his next album that people are a bit more supportive.....

I care and I don't care what they say. Personally I don't care as long as I enjoy what Rob puts out no matter who he writes with or what is said about it ... but on the other hand, I do care, because the dumb ass critics and craploids influence people's opinions and sadly people do believe everything they read or hear in the media. I'd just like Rob to get his due respect and acknowledgement as the brilliant songwriter he is in his own right without all the credit going to Guy or anyone else for that matter.

I care and I don't care what they say. Personally I don't care as long as I enjoy what Rob puts out no matter who he writes with or what is said about it ... but on the other hand, I do care, because the dumb ass critics and craploids influence people's opinions and sadly people do believe everything they read or hear in the media. I'd just like Rob to get his due respect and acknowledgement as the brilliant songwriter he is in his own right without all the credit going to Guy or anyone else for that matter.

 

He does get that respect from the people who love his lusic...US .....& that is what counts at the end of the day....we are the ones buying his records & listening to his music because we love it...F**K the press as far as I am concerned...I just will not buy their S**T papers but I will support him in everyway I can ...by telling other people about his music & promoting it whever I can.People have very short memories & do not even remember what is written half the time.The press do it because they know it annoys Rob ( he is one of the few artists who wears his heart on his sleeve & they take advantage of that ) & they know it annoys his fans so they keep doing it.....Just ignore them...they aint' worth it....Rob will be around for a long time & will be remembered for his great music & his talent as a fantastic artist & showman...

 

 

Yes, I wish I did'nt care what the craploids say, but I do because it does influence the publics opinions. Before Rudebox it was'nt that bad, but with all the endless negetivity that press had towards Rudebox, it put a huge amount of people off buying it. Yes, there were other factors as well, but it was mainly due to the Sun/Mirror's constant slagging off day in day out, it has effected Rob's carear hugely in terms of people's opinions. In general alot if not the majority of the public would seriously believe his carear is on the rocks. Whilst if he comes back hugely successful again, then that is totally different. Yes, of course there will be the 'Guy c**p' along with things, but anything is better than the abuse he has recieved over the past year. They have tried desperatly to bring him down and in terms of album/singles sales for Rudebox, they succeeded to an extent, so I just want him to return and be more successful then ever. He has proved over the past 5 years he does not need Guy, and the people who believe he does, will continue believing that no matter what so it is pointless getting annoyed about them. I have no doubt in my mind the next album will be amazing, I have no worries there. I just hope Rob promotes it hugely, and it becomes a massive hit, then we won't have to deal with this c**p about him being desperate to save his carear etc. The press wont' say anywhere near as much because he won't be doing poorly in the charts. It will be like pre- 2006 in terms of press negetivity, which was'nt a huge amount at all.

Yes, I wish I did'nt care what the craploids say, but I do because it does influence the publics opinions. Before Rudebox it was'nt that bad, but with all the endless negetivity that press had towards Rudebox, it put a huge amount of people off buying it. Yes, there were other factors as well, but it was mainly due to the Sun/Mirror's constant slagging off day in day out, it has effected Rob's carear hugely in terms of people's opinions. In general alot if not the majority of the public would seriously believe his carear is on the rocks. Whilst if he comes back hugely successful again, then that is totally different. Yes, of course there will be the 'Guy c**p' along with things, but anything is better than the abuse he has recieved over the past year. They have tried desperatly to bring him down and in terms of album/singles sales for Rudebox, they succeeded to an extent, so I just want him to return and be more successful then ever. He has proved over the past 5 years he does not need Guy, and the people who believe he does, will continue believing that no matter what so it is pointless getting annoyed about them. I have no doubt in my mind the next album will be amazing, I have no worries there. I just hope Rob promotes it hugely, and it becomes a massive hit, then we won't have to deal with this c**p about him being desperate to save his carear etc. The press wont' say anywhere near as much because he won't be doing poorly in the charts. It will be like pre- 2006 in terms of press negetivity, which was'nt a huge amount at all.

But the charts mean nothing now...album sales are way down & the music industry have warned that it is going to srtay like that for the next foreseeable future.Rob is still a big megastar out there & people recognise him as such & respect him for doing so well in his career...Of course the press are after him ..& other artists want to get rid of him...he still managed to sell 4.5 million Rudebox albums...how many other artists have been that successful worldwide last year...Rob fanbase is just not tied to the UK alone ...it is spread far & wide.....The day will come when his popularity will wane...that happens to all artists at some stage...he is very young & has a long way to go yet..he has ooodle's of talent that draw people to him. The way I look at it is...not everyone likes Rudebox...it was very different to his normal stuff that his fans were used to...he was entitled to try something new...his career is far from over no matter what the press say...his fans will buy his albums oif they like them...if not they wont'...that's it plain & simple....back to the same thing..ignore the press.....

 

 

 

 

That's alot easier said than done I'm afaid Tessat, I would happily ignore the bast*rds if it did'nt effect his carear, but it certainly has over the past year, so I can't help but get pissed off. Only when he has his 7th #1 single and 9th #1 album which spends weeks and weeks in the top 10 and goes into the years top 5 best sellers in the UK will the press eat their words. They have no intrest whether it sells 1 copy or 10 million copies outside the UK, all they care about it the UK charts, which of course is ridiclous considering the absolute $h!te that makes #1 these days. <_< They know full well how huge Rob is worldwide, and how Rudebox went to #1 in 14 countries (double the amount Justin Timberlakes album and 12 more countries than TT) and was the best selling album of last year outside the US by a solo artist, but they only focuse on the negetive. Yes album sales in general are all going down, especially with downloads rising so much, but it is still possible to have a million selling album in the UK, very few have done it recently, but it can still be achived.

It would be easy to avoid the press and not let it bug me if they didn't have such a huge effect on public opinion and everything else, but unfortunately, they do effect his career and his album sales. I suppose its not that good to focus on sales but it is still how a career or success is measured. There are people who will listen to the press and not buy the album because they said its no good rather than base their opinion on actually hearing the album. I think Rudebox proved that. Yes the album is very different to his previous work and it won't be to everyone's tastes, but there were loads of people that didn't give the album or single for that matter, a chance just based on what was said in the press and I'm talking about the tabloids because no matter how good the reviews were for Rudebox in the trade press, sadly not many people actually read those magazines.

 

The thing with Rob is that the press are just against him period, no matter how good or bad the album is or how much it sells. I'm sure even if the next album is a HUGE seller by RW standards, because it seems that's how anything is measured now, there will still be a lot of negativity. Ofcourse it will help if the album is mega successful but at this point, seeing how Rob's sales are viewed against other artists, it will be a difficult course. I'm sure by some standards no matter how successful the album is it will still be considered as underperforming by some people some place.

That's alot easier said than done I'm afaid Tessat, I would happily ignore the bast*rds if it did'nt effect his carear, but it certainly has over the past year, so I can't help but get pissed off. Only when he has his 7th #1 single and 9th #1 album which spends weeks and weeks in the top 10 and goes into the years top 5 best sellers in the UK will the press eat their words. They have no intrest whether it sells 1 copy or 10 million copies outside the UK, all they care about it the UK charts, which of course is ridiclous considering the absolute $h!te that makes #1 these days. <_< They know full well how huge Rob is worldwide, and how Rudebox went to #1 in 14 countries (double the amount Justin Timberlakes album and 12 more countries than TT) and was the best selling album of last year outside the US by a solo artist, but they only focuse on the negetive. Yes album sales in general are all going down, especially with downloads rising so much, but it is still possible to have a million selling album in the UK, very few have done it recently, but it can still be achived.

I know what you are saying Scotty & I agree to a certain extent...maybe it does not matter to me as much as it does to you ( & I am not been offensive when I say that ) ...I just feel that Rudebox did brilliantly worldwide with no promotion at all...how would it have done if he had the time to promote it & done all the TV & Radio shows that most artists with a new album out do.Are huge album sales the bee-all & end-all...Rob will be back with a great album & great songs but at the end of the day no matter what the press say if people do not like the songs that they hear on radio they will not buy it no matter who the artist is....Rob was fairly lucky with Rudebox that he sold as many albums in the UK as he did...it looked like most people hated the lead off single Rudebox ( It's in my top 5 in the whole album...but my opinion does not count ) & it went downhill from there..I know the press certainly did not help but if Rob was not on a WT & was around to promote it during the winter months on TV & radio the outcome would have been very different....it was bad timing releasing the album when he did..

I have no worries about the next album & I am sure it will do great...the only worry I do have is the timing of the release...I hope they do not get it wrong a second time. :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure: :unsure:

 

http://www.guychambers.com/index2.html

 

This is the first time in a while that RW has been mentioned on this site............Re: Lola...

 

 

...............Also on the MEDIA section on his site he it squared off into 4 sections......

 

1. Albums

2. Singles

3. Film

4. Just a pic of RW on that section.....will it be accessible at a future date......a bit weird that it's just RW's face on it even though Guy has worked with loads of other artists.............Em'.....interesting....... <_<

Edited September 2, 200717 yr by TessaT

http://www.guychambers.com/index2.html

 

This is the first time in a while that RW has been mentioned on this site............Re: Lola...

...............Also on the MEDIA section on his site he it squared off into 4 sections......

 

1. Albums

2. Singles

3. Film

4. Just a pic of RW on that section.....will it be accessible at a future date......a bit weird that it's just RW's face on it even though Guy has worked with loads of other artists.............Em'.....interesting....... <_<

He's worked with a lot of artists, yeah, but he hasn't been successful with them. Rob was - and I think to some extent still is - his meal ticket.

 

I haven't looked at the site, but as its a new section ?? is that right ?? I would imagine he will gradually add artists he's worked with. I guess because Rob is the biggest one he's worked with and one he's known for, is the reason why Rob is there first.

 

ROBBIE AND GUY REUNITE FOR KINKS CLASSIC

The Sentinal

RICHARD AULT

18 September 2007

 

Robbie Williams is to be reunited with his former songwriting partner as part of Radio 1's 40th anniversary celebrations.

 

The pair - who famously wrote Angels together - are to join forces to record a version of the Kinks classic, Lola.

 

Robbie and Guy Chambers, who also penned numerous other smash hits on Robbie's first five studio albums, have not worked together since falling out in 2005, when the singer signed a huge record deal with EMI.

 

Robbie - who is currently working on his seventh studio album - instead began writing songs with ex-Durannie and Lilac Time member Stephen Duffy, a partnership which resulted in last year's critically-slated album Rudebox.

 

Robbie and Guy said later in 2005 that they had settled their differences, and would be working together in the future.

 

Robbie's mum Jan said: "The fall-out didn't last long.

 

"Robert and Guy are very close, they love each other.

 

"They both started their careers together. It was Robert that wanted to work with Guy, that got things going and the two of them together made everything possible.

 

"I've always liked Robert and Guy's stuff.

 

"It would be nice to think that they will write together again, and nothing would surprise me.

 

"I haven't really discussed it with Robert. His head is down at the moment working on his new material.

 

"I have heard bits and pieces and I'm impressed. It is a bit different from Rudebox, I think he's done his Stokie thing.

 

"I have only heard basic versions, it will be completely different when it is recorded properly.

 

"He hasn't got any titles yet, I don't think he comes up with them until he puts the whole album together."

 

Robbie and Guy will record Lola, written in 1970 by the legendary Ray Davies, as part of celebrations to commemorate Radio 1's 40th birthday.

 

The station is releasing an album of 40 hits, covering every year the station has been broadcasting, with songs being covered by some of the biggest names in rock and pop today.

 

A post on Robbie's official website says: "Robbie's version of Lola, representing 1970, is produced by former writing and production partner, Guy Chambers."

 

As well as Lola, the album covers songs such as Kylie Minogue's take on Roxy Music's Love Is The Drug, from 1975, Girls Aloud's cover of the Wheatus hit, Teenage Dirtbag, from 2001 and Hard Fi's version of Britney Spear's 2004 hit Toxic.

 

Jan added: "Robbie likes the Kinks. That might be down to me - Lola was one of my favourite songs."

 

Are you happy that Robbie is back with his songwriting partner?

 

THE SENTINEL via TRWS

 

www.thisisstaffordshire.co.uk

As for the Sentinal Article, thanks for that. A bit suprised Jan gave an interview considering they slagged Rob off only a few weeks ago for no reason, but it would nice to read. Is there a direct link to it though to leave comments? I can't find it on the site. I did not like the way they seemed to be suggesting that Rob's collab with Stephen Duffy was a failure, by insinuating that Rudebox represents what Rob has come up with since the split with Guy 5 years ago. It is VERY annoying, Duffy and Rob only wrote one song on Rudebox, so to even assosiate that album with their partenership is foolish. It's like they just try their best to put a negetive slant on things. Why not mention IC, the album that was entirly written by Rob and Stephen, and is Rob's most successful album EVER with near 7.5 million copies sold globally? And I just wish some journalist somewhere would do some reasearch about Rudebox - just once, and discover it did NOT get critically panned, it got top reviews from NME, Uncut, Mojo, Rolling Stone Mag, and respected broadsheets like the Times and Telegraph among endless other highly respected reviewers, so only someone who is not very good at their job would go by what the craploids, like the Sun and Mirror ram down the publics throat with each article written about Rob. It is very sad to see that so many people are so ignorant when it comes to this, not to mention the whole thing about it flopping etc.

 

Just to remind outselves of the great reviews it got :D

 

NME - 8/10 'Rudebox is the best thing he's ever put his name to. F***ing about on laptops with the likes of Lily Allen and Pet Shop Boys, he has hit on a fun, frantic, pisstaking mixtape of crystalline 80s electropop... it is an amazing pop album.'

 

MOJO - 4/5 - "Rudebox is another flick of the Vs to all those who doubt the substance behind Robbie William's incorrigible irrepressibility...An Intriguing , funny and inventive listen... A golden showcase of millenial pop."

 

UNCUT -3/4 "The Funniest, most adventurous and liveliest record of his career... A career high."

 

MUSIC WEEK- "bonkers, witty...and hugely likeable".

 

THE TIMES - 'Williams' blossoming facility as a wordsmith repeatedly take the breath away.'

 

ROLLING STONE MAGAZINE - 4/5 - "A magnificent pop lesson... The best album of his career"

 

THE TELEGRAPH – “madly compelling album. If you stumbled across this on MySpace, you might think a pop genius had been born”

 

POP JUSTICE- “It is the best album of Robbie's career”

 

THE STAR - 4/5 – “Excellent”

 

DAILY EXPRESS - 4/5 - "most accomplished record to date

 

 

SUNDAY HEARALD – “It's a fabulous and funky mix of rap and rock that will have you scooting across the dancefloor in a flash.”

 

MELBOURNE HEARALD SUN – 4/5 – “After a few ropey auotpilot albums that seemingly pleased everyone but himself, Robbie's returned to being a risk-taking, divisive, exciting pop star not afaid to shed fans to save his sanity. Welcome back.”

 

ENTERTAINMENT.IE – 4/5 “Rudebox is a thrilling return to form that suggests that Williams still has a hell of a lot to offer”

 

POPMATTERS – 7/10 “Rudebox is an astounding, brave release.

 

ALL MUSIC GUIDE - 4/5 "displays an edge and a wicked sense of fun sorely missing from most mainstream pop...

 

THE METRO – 4/5 - "undeniably versatile"

I just give up on the whole thing...talk about s**t reporting.....

Thanks for the reviews again Mr Mac...( good to see...those reviews must be the best he ever got & what happens...make you wonder )....I will make good use of them whenever & wherever I can...... :D :D :D

 

Oh my comments were posted up :D :cheer:

Oh my comments were posted up :D :cheer:

 

Where? :unsure: Where's the link? :w00t: