June 30, 200718 yr Yes they are but what better way to create a scare situation than bungle a bombing campaign ? This is more like Mr Bean than Bin Laden, anyone who knows the slightest thing about London would know that Haymarket at 2am is relatively quiet on a Thursday night and that a car being parked there would be towed away before the owner could blink so if it was terrorists they made complete t*ts of themselves, wrong location and no understanding of London which makes me think that this was done to scare as opposed to create huge loss of life, even wanabee's would at least do SOME research and planning ? They spend all that money on a Merc, on nails, on gas canisters but don't research London or its traffic management network ??? hmmmmm exactly Bean Laden over bin Laden :lol: http://z.about.com/d/politicalhumor/1/0/i/F/osama_bean.jpg
June 30, 200718 yr Eye-witnesses have stated that a man of Asian appearance was seen running from the car.... and with the amount of CCTV in the area, and the vast amounts of evidence the bast*rd left behind, I don't think it'll be too long before he's caught. Conspiracy? Nonsense. What I'm puzzled about is that terror experts have said it's almost certain that the terrorist is British, and learnt his trade in Iran, Pakistan or Iraq.... if this is the case, surely we should now be tracking ALL people travelling from the UK to these countries for extended stays? It's highly unlikely a 2 month stay would be for a 'family visit', don't you think? And if so - surely the person travelling should now be made to prove their stay? The time for being lax and lenient is surely over? Also, the imams who seem to be the root cause of preaching the $h!te that gears these guys up to kill - surely each and every single one should be vetted? I think London should be on high alert this weekend - what with the gay Mardi Gras today in the capital (surely to make the old Muslims blood boil, that one), Wimbledon (ladies in ... eek... SHORT SKIRTS?!?!) and tomorrow's Diana concert (people listening to music and enjoying themselves)..... I'm just glad I'm not attending any of these events, or even anywhere near London right now.
June 30, 200718 yr Eye-witnesses have stated that a man of Asian appearance was seen running from the car.... and with the amount of CCTV in the area, and the vast amounts of evidence the bast*rd left behind, I don't think it'll be too long before he's caught. Conspiracy? Nonsense. What I'm puzzled about is that terror experts have said it's almost certain that the terrorist is British, and learnt his trade in Iran, Pakistan or Iraq.... if this is the case, surely we should now be tracking ALL people travelling from the UK to these countries for extended stays? It's highly unlikely a 2 month stay would be for a 'family visit', don't you think? And if so - surely the person travelling should now be made to prove their stay? The time for being lax and lenient is surely over? Also, the imams who seem to be the root cause of preaching the $h!te that gears these guys up to kill - surely each and every single one should be vetted? I think London should be on high alert this weekend - what with the gay Mardi Gras today in the capital (surely to make the old Muslims blood boil, that one), Wimbledon (ladies in ... eek... SHORT SKIRTS?!?!) and tomorrow's Diana concert (people listening to music and enjoying themselves)..... I'm just glad I'm not attending any of these events, or even anywhere near London right now. Well whoever was behind yesterday's stuff clearly did not take any notice of what they were trained to do because they were bungling amateurs who did no research whatsoever I very much doubt that whoever did yesterday's stuff was trained by Al Qaeda because Al Qaeda are ruthlessly efficient and plan everything down to the very minutest detail and this yesterday does not reflect that
June 30, 200718 yr Well whoever was behind yesterday's stuff clearly did not take any notice of what they were trained to do because they were bungling amateurs who did no research whatsoever I very much doubt that whoever did yesterday's stuff was trained by Al Qaeda because Al Qaeda are ruthlessly efficient and plan everything down to the very minutest detail and this yesterday does not reflect that Rubbish. I suspect Al Qaeda are no more efficient than the US Intelligent spys in Iraq circa the turn of the century. In short, they are not robots, they are (barely??) human & therefore can get things wrong as much as the rest of us.
June 30, 200718 yr wrong enough to crash a car into bins :blink: and run off into a mesh of CCTV cameras. Plus there is no significance with the date either. Something just doesn't add up in this whole thing. Why did the 2nd car get towed away, without being checked :blink: before they found the "bomb"
June 30, 200718 yr cars parked illegally are towed away every few minutes in London, Matt, it's nothing out of the ordinary, and the last thing the people who impound cars would be looking for is a bomb....
June 30, 200718 yr Also if they wanted to kill a load of people, wouldn't it be better to do it on a Sunday at Wembley when the concert is on, just hope Wembley's secruity is tight as a sardine can tomorrow, why on earth they pick an early Friday morning when they had a better opportunity on a Sunday.
June 30, 200718 yr http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/6257194.stm Maybe you should turn on the news & hear what has happened at Glasgow airport. Where a Cherokee Jeep has been driven at speed through the front of Glasgow Airport. It was driven by an Asian man who set himself on fire & the Jeep was full of explosives. Still no doubt most of you internet nutcases think this was done by MI6 & not another terrorist cell. The building has suffered structual damage & everyone is being evacuated as I type. All flights have now been suspended. Sometimes I'm completed dismayed at what I read on the internet. And quite frankly some of the complete & utter c**p written in this thread by some of you is nothing short of a f***ing disgrace! No doubt you think 9/11 was done by the US intelligent forces to instigate the latest Holy War. Right now I am that angry with you that I'm thinking of leaving this site.
June 30, 200718 yr Just saw this :o Clearly a second attempt after the failure of the first :( And I know this may sound callous of me to mention this when people are possibly dying/dead now, but the BBC News page is really terribly written, they're really lacking in comparison to Sky with schoolboy spelling/grammar mistakes :( EDIT: They've corrected them now, not before soon especially considering it's now leading story <_<
June 30, 200718 yr http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/6257194.stm Maybe you should turn on the news & hear what has happened at Glasgow airport. Where a Cherokee Jeep has been driven at speed through the front of Glasgow Airport. It was driven by an Asian man who set himself on fire & the Jeep was full of explosives. Still no doubt most of you internet nutcases think this was done by MI6 & not another terrorist cell. The building has suffered structual damage & everyone is being evacuated as I type. All flights have now been suspended. Sometimes I'm completed dismayed at what I read on the internet. And quite frankly some of the complete & utter c**p written in this thread by some of you is nothing short of a f***ing disgrace! No doubt you think 9/11 was done by the US intelligent forces to instigate the latest Holy War. Right now I am that angry with you that I'm thinking of leaving this site. You are over reacting A big part of debate is examining EVERY possibility and thinking outside of the box is a good part of a debate Government doing stuff towards its own citizens is nothing new Remember that bombing in the market in Bosnia where many Bosnian Muslims died ? that was the trigger for Western involvement in the Balkans, everyone blamed Milosevic but it turned out in the end that Bosnian muslim leaders did it so that there would be a backlash against Milosevic so governments targetting or scaring its own people for its own hidden agenda is not unheard of Even if the theories put forward by me and Scott don't turn out to be true it is only right to debate them and think outside the box in debate
June 30, 200718 yr http://img.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2007/06_03/glasgowbomb30607_468x236.jpg On BBC24 Eye Witness Reports say that a explosion came from the back of the car not the front where the engine was of the Jeep. IE. IT WAS A BOMB THAT WENT OFF AND COULD HAVE KILLED A LOT OF INNOCENT PEOPLE!
June 30, 200718 yr Breaking News Sky News Burning Car In Airport Terminal Updated: 16:32, Saturday June 30, 2007 A jeep has driven into the terminal building at Glasgow airport and caught fire, police have confirmed. Witnesses reported hearing a series of loud "bangs" and saw at least two Asian men - one of whom was on fire - emerge from the vehicle. It is thought a Cherokee 4x4 smashed into a glass door at the airport, the busiest in Scotland. Witnesses said people removed gas cylinders from the jeep before it caught fire. Police say it is too early to say whether the incident - which comes after failed car bomb attacks in London - was related to terrorism. Police, fire crews and ambulances are at the scene. Holidaymaker Stephen Clarkson said he knocked one of the men to the floor before police intervened. He said: "There was an Asian male. He was lying on the floor and he was on fire, the Jeep was on fire as well. "The fellow got up and started fighting with police. I managed to knock the Asian fellow to the ground and four police officers got on top of him." He added: "His whole body was on fire. He was quite a big fellow and was disorientated otherwise I wouldn't have been able to knock him down." James Edgar told Sky News: "People were running past like they has missed their flight. "They told us all to get out of the airport. "Everyone was in a panic and police and security were scuffling with an Asian gentleman." Sky's Mark White said: "This is a significant incident that's unfolding."
June 30, 200718 yr The way things are going, there is going to be a total backlash against the Muslim communities - I sincerely hope the Muslim Council of Great Britain act accordingly - it would be the first time they have if they do. When we have, literally, the enemy within.... and 62% of Muslims back the London bombers... well.... Also - shouldn't every mosque allowing imams preaching hate be immediately closed down? I don't believe for a minute that the mosques involved (and there are a fair number of them) were unaware of what was being preached under their roofs. Why Glasgow, though? Seems a strange target....? Maybe they think because Gordon Brown is Scottish - hit him where it hurts? I sincerely hope Brown takes a totally no-nonsense approach - if ANYONE thinks what is happening here right now is the right thing - then they should be given every assistance possible OUT of Britain. Now. Where they go is irrelevant - but go they should.
June 30, 200718 yr The way things are going, there is going to be a total backlash against the Muslim communities - I sincerely hope the Muslim Council of Great Britain act accordingly - it would be the first time they have if they do. When we have, literally, the enemy within.... and 62% of Muslims back the London bombers... well.... Also - shouldn't every mosque allowing imams preaching hate be immediately closed down? I don't believe for a minute that the mosques involved (and there are a fair number of them) were unaware of what was being preached under their roofs. Why Glasgow, though? Seems a strange target....? Maybe they think because Gordon Brown is Scottish - hit him where it hurts? I sincerely hope Brown takes a totally no-nonsense approach - if ANYONE thinks what is happening here right now is the right thing - then they should be given every assistance possible OUT of Britain. Now. Where they go is irrelevant - but go they should. Here, here. It was clearly designed as an attack on Gordon Brown as the new Prime Minister is Scottish. It does not matter whether the War in Iraq was wrong, illegal, immoral, etc. TWO WRONGS DO NOT MAKE A RIGHT.
June 30, 200718 yr Breaking News Arrests After Burning Jeep Hits Airport Updated: 16:52, Saturday June 30, 2007 Four people have been arrested after a jeep was driven into the terminal building at Glasgow airport and caught fire, police have confirmed. Witnesses reported hearing a series of loud "bangs" and saw at least two men - one of whom was on fire - emerge from the vehicle. The jeep on fire. There are reports of several injuries. A Cherokee 4x4 smashed into a glass door at the Terminal One, the busiest in Scotland. Witnesses said some of the hundreds of people in the area removed gas cylinders from the jeep before it caught fire. But there are reports the men in the jeep were trying to fling petrol onto the flames. Scott Gleeson said he saw the jeep speed up and swerve towards the terminal at an angle to hit the door. "They were obviously trying to get through to cause as much damage as possible," he said. Police say it is too early to say whether the incident - which comes after failed car bomb attacks in London - was related to terrorism. Police, fire crews and ambulances are at the scene. Holidaymaker Stephen Clarkson said he knocked one of the men to the floor before police intervened. He said: "There was an Asian male. He was lying on the floor and he was on fire, the Jeep was on fire as well. There was chaos at the scene "The fellow got up and started fighting with police. I managed to knock the Asian fellow to the ground and four police officers got on top of him." He added: "His whole body was on fire. He was quite a big fellow and was disorientated otherwise I wouldn't have been able to knock him down." James Edgar told Sky News: "People were running past like they has missed their flight. "They told us all to get out of the airport. "Everyone was in a panic and police and security were scuffling with an Asian gentleman." He added: "There was a lot of anger - if the crowds had got hold of this gentleman it would have been the end of him."
June 30, 200718 yr The way things are going, there is going to be a total backlash against the Muslim communities - I sincerely hope the Muslim Council of Great Britain act accordingly - it would be the first time they have if they do. When we have, literally, the enemy within.... and 62% of Muslims back the London bombers... well.... Also - shouldn't every mosque allowing imams preaching hate be immediately closed down? I don't believe for a minute that the mosques involved (and there are a fair number of them) were unaware of what was being preached under their roofs. Why Glasgow, though? Seems a strange target....? Maybe they think because Gordon Brown is Scottish - hit him where it hurts? I sincerely hope Brown takes a totally no-nonsense approach - if ANYONE thinks what is happening here right now is the right thing - then they should be given every assistance possible OUT of Britain. Now. Where they go is irrelevant - but go they should. If Britain was not reduced to the role of Bush's little puppy dog that rolls around on its tummy for Bush none of this $h!t would be happening, we have lived in peace with muslims in this country for decades with no problems at all and now because of Bush Britain is right in the firing line for fanatics We under false pretences have gone into Iraq, murdered 27,000 residents of Baghdad in cold blood with B52's in Shock And Awe, have stood by and done nothing in Camp X Ray and Abu Ghirab, have stolen a nations oil, have supplied nuclear weapons to Israel and have at the same time banned Iran from having weapons is it any wonder that muslims are pissed off with us ?? We all snivel and cry about 3000 dead in 9/11 yet wring our hands over 27,000 dead Iraqi's in Shock And Awe, if I was a young muslim in this country I would be pretty pissed off too You are right 2 wrongs dont make a right but we will keep getting bloody noses till we stop poking our nose into other countries business and stop being Bush's puppy dog Edited June 30, 200718 yr by Vic Vega
June 30, 200718 yr http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v679/russy68/bomb.jpg another photo of the incident... and more viewable here: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6257388.stm Edited June 30, 200718 yr by russt68
June 30, 200718 yr If Britain was not reduced to the role of Bush's little puppy dog that rolls around on its tummy for Bush none of this $h!t would be happening, we have lived in peace with muslims in this country for decades with no problems at all and now because of Bush Britain is right in the firing line for fanatics We under false pretences have gone into Iraq, murdered 27,000 residents of Baghdad in cold blood with B52's in Shock And Awe, have stood by and done nothing in Camp X Ray and Abu Ghirab, have stolen a nations oil, have supplied nuclear weapons to Israel and have at the same time banned Iran from having weapons is it any wonder that muslims are pissed off with us ?? We all snivel and cry about 3000 dead in 9/11 yet wring our hands over 27,000 dead Iraqi's in Shock And Awe, if I was a young muslim in this country I would be pretty pissed off too You are right 2 wrongs dont make a right but we will keep getting bloody noses till we stop poking our nose into other countries business and stop being Bush's puppy dog The Muslims & the Christians have been at each others throats since Jerusalem fell to the Sassanids (Muslims) in 614 AD & they ransacked (raped, murdered & destroyed) the "Holy Land" of religious significance, ever since then nearly 1500 years ago & will doubtless continue until the destruction of the human race. The identity of countries & leaders may change but the struggle will remain the same. Over the last 25 years we have seen the following terrorist attacks by Muslim groups (to list a few): April 30, 1980: Iranian Embassy siege: Iraqi agents take over the Iranian Embassy in London, gaining hostages. After a number of days, one hostage was killed by the Iraqis, and the Special Air Service assaulted the building to rescue the remaining hostages. One hostage died during the assault. July 27, 1980: A member of the Abu Nidal Organization carried out a grenade attack on a group of Jews waiting for a bus in Antwerp, Belgium, killing a child and wounding twenty others. Said Al Nasr will be convicted for this act. August 29, 1980: Machine gun and grenade attack on the Stadttempel synagogue in Vienna, killing two people and wounding 23. Marwan Hasan and Hesham Mohammed Rajeh were convicted. October 6, 1981: Assassination of Egyptian President Anwar Sadat by Islamic Jihad. October 20, 1981: Attack on a synagogue in Antwerp, Belgium, killing three and wounding sixty. August 9, 1982: Rue des Rosiers, Paris gunning and bombing of Goldenberg restaurant : six killed and 22 wounded - Fatah - the Revolutionary Council. September 18, 1982: Four people are wounded when a synagogue in Brussels is attacked in a "shoot and run" incident. Guards were taken by surprise and the gunman, believed to be from the Abu Nidal Organization, escaped. October 9, 1982: Attack with grenades and machine guns on the central synagogue in Rome, Italy. A child dies, ten people are injured. April 18, 1983: U.S. Embassy Bombing in Beirut, Lebanon kills 63. October 23, 1983: Marine Barracks Bombing in Beirut kills 241 U.S. Marines. 58 French troops from the multinational force are also killed in a separate attack. June 14, 1985: TWA Flight 847 skyjacking, Hezbollah. Terrorists take passengers of an Athens-Rome flight hostage, murdering US Navy Seaman, Robert Stethem. November 23, 1985: EgyptAir Flight 648 hijacked by Abu Nidal group, flown to Malta, where Egyptian commandos storm plane; 60 are killed by gunfire and explosions. December 21, 1988: Pan Am Flight 103 bombing over Lockerbie, Scotland. At the time, it was the worst act of terrorism perpetrated against the United States, and involved the greatest number of peacetime fatalities (270) in the United Kingdom. Just over 12 years after the event, at the conclusion of the Pan Am Flight 103 bombing trial, a Libyan agent, Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed Al Megrahi, was convicted on 270 counts of murder and was sentenced to life imprisonment. Libya subsequently agreed to pay relatives of the Lockerbie bombing victims $2.7 billion ($10 million each) in compensation. March 17, 1992: Israeli Embassy bombing by "Islamic Jihad" in Buenos Aires, Argentina; 29 killed, 242 injured. February 26, 1993: World Trade Center bombing kills six and injures over 1000 people, by coalition of five groups: Jamaat Al-Fuqra'/Gamaat Islamiya/Hamas/Islamic Jihad/National Islamic Front. July 18, 1994: Bombing of Jewish Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina, kills 86 and wounds 300. Generally attributed to Hezbollah acting on behalf of Iran. July 19, 1994: Alas Chiricanas Flight 00901 (Panama) is bombed, killing 21. Generally attributed to Hezbollah. July 26, 1994: Israeli Embassy Attack in London and a Jewish charity are car-bombed, wounding 20. Attributed by Britain, Argentina, and Israel to Hezbollah. June 25, 1996: Khobar Towers bombing -- In all, 19 U.S. servicemen and one Saudi were killed and 372 wounded, by Hizballah Al-Hijaz (Saudi Hizballah) with Iranian support. February 24, 1997: Ali Abu Kamal opens fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, United States, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from the United States, Argentina, Switzerland and France before turning the gun on himself. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claims this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine". His widow claimed he became suicidal after losing $300,000 in a business venture. In a 2007 interview with the New York Daily News his daughter said her mothers story was a cover crafted by the Palestinian Authority and that her father wanted to punish the United States for its support of Israel. November 17, 1997: Luxor Massacre – Islamist gunmen attack tourists in Luxor, Egypt, killing 62 and injuring 24 people, most of them European and Japanese holidaymakers. February 14: 1998 Coimbatore bombings - Bombings by suspected Islamic Jihadi groups on an election rally in Indian city of Coimbatore kill about 60 people. August 7, 1998: U.S. embassy bombings in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, killing 225 people and injuring more than 4,000, by al-Qaeda. October 12, 2000: USS Cole bombing kills 17 US sailors and wounds 40 off the port coast of Aden, Yemen, by al-Qaeda, the Buffalo Six Lackawanna Cell. August 9, 2001: A suicide bomber in Jerusalem kills seven and wounds 130 in the Sbarro restaurant suicide bombing; Hamas and Islamic Jihad claim responsibility. September 11, 2001: Attacks kill 2,997 in a series of hijacked airliner crashes into two U.S. landmarks: the World Trade Center in New York City, New York, and The Pentagon in Arlington, Virginia. A fourth plane, originally intended to hit the United States Capital Building, crashes in Somerset County, Pennsylvania, after an apparent revolt against the hijackers by the plane's passengers; by Al-Qaeda. April 11, 2002: A natural gas truck fitted with explosives is driven into a synagogue in Tunisia by an al-Qaeda member, killing 21 and wounding more than 30 in the Ghriba Synagogue Attack. June 14, 2002: Car bomb at US Consulate in Karachi kills twelve. July 4, 2002: An Egyptian gunman opens fire at an El Al ticket counter in Los Angeles International Airport, killing two Israelis before being killed himself. May 12, 2003: Bombings of United States expatriate housing compounds in Saudi Arabia kill 26 and injure 160 in the Riyadh Compound Bombings. Al-Qaeda blamed. May 16, 2003: Casablanca Attacks by twelve bombers on five "Western and Jewish" targets in Casablanca, Morocco leaves 41 dead and over 100 injured. Attack attributed to a Moroccan al-Qaeda-linked group. November 15 and November 20, 2003: Truck bombs go off at two synagogues, the British Consulate, and the HSBC Bank in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 57 and wounding 700 in the 2003 Istanbul Bombings. March 11, 2004: Coordinated bombing of commuter trains in Madrid, Spain, kills 191 people and injures more than 1,500. Suspected Al-Qaeda authorship. July 7, 2005: London bombings – Bombs explode on one double-decker bus and three London Underground trains, killing 56 people and injuring over 700, occurring on the first day of the 31st G8 Conference. The attacks are the first suicide bombings in Western Europe. July 21, 2005: Attempted London bombings - Small explosions in three London Underground stations and one double-decker bus. This was pronounced as a "major incident" rather than an attack, and only minor injuries were reported. These four bombs were designed to cause as much damage as the 7 July 2005 London bombings, but the explosives had deteriorated and failed to detonate. July 31, 2006: Two suitcase bombs are discovered in trains near the German towns of Dortmund and Koblenz, undetonated due to an assembly error. Video footage from Cologne train station, where the bombs were put on the trains, led to the arrest of two Lebanese students in Germany, Youssef al-Hajdib and Jihad Hamad, and subsequently of three suspected co-conspirators in Lebanon. On 1 September 2006, Jörg Ziercke, head of the Bundeskriminalamt (Federal Police), reports that the suspects saw the Muhammad cartoons as an "assault by the West on Islam" and the "initial spark" for the attack, originally planned to coincide with the 2006 Football World Cup in Germany. August 10, 2006: A major anti-terrorist operation disrupts an alleged bomb plot targeting multiple airplanes bound for the United States flying through Heathrow Airport, near London, UK. April 11, 2007: Two suicide car bombs kill 33 people and injure 222 in Algiers, Algeria. Al-Queda takes responsibility. April 18, 2007: In Malatya, Turkey, hometown of Mehmet Ali Agca, three Christian men, one of them 45-year-old German father of three children Tilman Geske, were brutally murdered by at least four young men who already have confessed the slayings. The assassins tortured their victims for hours before cutting their throats. An autopsy of the German victim found 156 stab wounds. Hurriyet newspaper quoted a suspect: "Let this be a lesson to enemies of our religion". April 25, 2007: The American International School in the Gaza Strip is stormed by a dozen gunman claiming to be a members of al-Qaida of Palestine who stole eight computers, planted explosives in adjoining buildings, doused the school with gasoline and set it ablaze. April 28, 2007: Saudi Arabia announced it has arrested one hundred and seventy two people in an Al Queda plot to attack oil facilities, military bases and public figures using civilian aircraft as suicide missiles. June 3, 2007: John F. Kennedy International Airport terror plot. Thwarted homegrown Islamist terrorism plot to destroy the fuel supply system for the airport located in New York City and cause a large amount of causalities by blowing up the connecting pipeline system that runs through densely populated neighborhoods. As for pushing our noses into other people's business, then I'm glad you were not Prime Minister at the time of the 2nd World War, when we declared war on a foreign country (Germany) who was not (at the time) intending to harm us when Germany invaded Poland. Otherwise by now we would be speaking German, and Jews would have been eradicated from Europe!
June 30, 200718 yr The Muslims & the Christians have been at each others throats since Jerusalem fell to the Sassanids (Muslims) in 614 AD & they ransacked (raped, murdered & destroyed) the "Holy Land" of religious significance, ever since then nearly 1500 years ago & will doubtless continue until the destruction of the human race. The identity of countries & leaders may change but the struggle will remain the same. Over the last 25 years we have seen the following terrorist attacks by Muslim groups Interesting list Rich but equally for every muslim mass murder/act of terrorism that has been committed over the years you could find at least one by christians/catholics Check out the number of attacks by the IRA, ETA, Red Brigade, Bader Meinhoff, Red Army, add to that random shootings in America, add to that Timothy McVeigh, add to that the USA shooting down the Iranian 747 in a military exercise, Shock And Awe, torture and murder in Camp X Ray and Abu Ghirab, Israeli settlers mass murdering Palestinians and so on and so on and so on, you have produced a list of murders and terrorist attacks committed by muslims but you can multiply that list several times to find atrocities committed by christians and catholics
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