Is this taking positive discrimination too far?

 

A teenage science student has been banned from applying for a training programme with the Environment Agency because she is white and English.

 

The recruitment agency handling the scheme told Abigail Howarth, 18, that there was no point in her submitting an application because of her ethnic background.

 

But bizarrely she could have applied if she had been white and Welsh, Scottish or Irish.

Abigail, who wanted to join the Agency's flood management programme, saw an advert in a local newspaper offering positions in the Anglia region where she lives, complete with a £13,000-a-year tax-free grant.

 

It made no mention of the ban on white English applicants, merely noting that candidates from ethnic minorities, such as "Asian, Indian' and "White Other, e.g. Irish, Welsh, Scottish', were encouraged to put themselves forward.

 

Abigail, of Little Straughton, Bedfordshire, said: "I was really disappointed. To be told being "White English" ruled me out in my home county shocked me. I know why there are positive action training schemes to assist those who are genuinely discriminated against but when it's broken down to this level it seems crazy to me.

 

"I really wanted to work for the agency and I was very excited - followed by feeling very disappointed.

"I would not have minded had I been beaten for the position by somebody better able than me."

 

Abigail, who is awaiting the results of A-Levels in environmental science, geography and geology, emailed PATH National Ltd, the company handling applications.

 

She asked: "Am I correct in assuming that as I am English (White) I need not apply as the preference is for the minorities you have listed, or can I apply anyway?'

 

Three days later, PATH recruitment officer, Bola Odusi, replied: "Thank you for your enquiry unfortunately the traineeship opportunity is targeted towards the ethnic minority group to address their under representations in the professions under the Race Relations Act amended 2000."

 

Such a policy may breach Race Relations legislation as employers must prove ethnic groups are under-represented before using positive discrimination strategies.

 

The Environment Agency admitted it had 'no evidence that white Welsh, Scottish or Irish workers were under-represented' in the Anglia region.

 

South West Bedfordshire Tory MP Andrew Selous said: "I think this is complete nonsense and the Environment Agency should be taking the best people, irrespective of their background.

 

"This is obviously borne out of some idiotic quota system. Abigail should have been able to apply and been judged on her own merits. I will raise this when I have a meeting with the Environment Agency next month."

 

PATH National's organisational development manager, Mary McDowell, said: "The "White Welsh", "White Irish" and "White Scottish" is a technicality in law - if they are a minority, they are entitled to places on these schemes - they are not part of the majority group, which is "White English".

 

"The "White English" in this area are the majority group and hence could not apply.

"That is the way the law is laid. This is a chance for people who might be less employable to gain experience, just experience. Public-sector organisations have a duty to ensure they reflect the make-up of the society they serve."

 

The Environment Agency says 387 of its 12,000 workers claim BME (Black and Minority Ethnic) status. A spokesman added: "The Commission for Racial Equality has confirmed we are acting legally."

 

A CRE spokeswoman said: "The Commission will be checking with the Environment Agency to clarify the current situation regarding their positive action initiatives.

 

"Positive action can only be used to encourage or train particular under-represented groups."

 

Source: Mail on Sunday

That is completely racist

 

If a black person was told not to bother applying for a job because they were from the wrong ethnic background the employer would end up in court and the applicant win huge compensation

 

Racism against whites is as big an issue as racism against blacks or other colours

Yes, but people often forget that.

 

Anyway, this sounds rather unlikely, im wondering how true it is...

Ironic counter-racism at it's worst :arrr: Affirmative action REALLY pisses me off (unless it's gender related in an area where gender equality is beneficial - a school for example) - they should take the best applicants REGARDLESS of race <_<

This is yet another example of Political Correctness = Something I hate with a passion.

 

The best candidate should be eligible for the job regardless of sex, skin colour, age, sexuality, religion, disability, etc. End of. Period.

 

I disagree with anyone who thinks otherwise.

This is yet another example of Political Correctness = Something I hate with a passion.

 

The best candidate should be eligible for the job regardless of sex, skin colour, age, sexuality, religion, disability, etc. End of. Period.

 

I disagree with anyone who thinks otherwise.

 

100% truth.

 

jark... the paper printed the extract from the job discription, so yes its true..... unless they want a law suit for altering it!

Applying for government jobs can be tricky. It does actually say in the discription for certain jobs that you must only have English background (can't remember the exact words) i.e if your parent are born in another country and you were born in England you cannot apply for the job. I don't really agree with it to be honest.

 

As for the girl who was barred for applying for that job is ricidulous.

The absolute morons who implement such schemes don't seem to have realised that this only reinforces race divisions. The only way we're going to stamp out racism is to remove the distinctions between the races, and any form of discrimination has completely the opposite effect, even when they try to dress it up using the word "positive". Has nobody in those ivory towers realised these things generate ill-feeling (and not to mention the obvious drawbacks of an economy hiring second-best candidates)?

Why even acknowledge racial divides? There is NO such thing as positive discrimination.

The absolute morons who implement such schemes don't seem to have realised that this only reinforces race divisions. The only way we're going to stamp out racism is to remove the distinctions between the races, and any form of discrimination has completely the opposite effect, even when they try to dress it up using the word "positive". Has nobody in those ivory towers realised these things generate ill-feeling (and not to mention the obvious drawbacks of an economy hiring second-best candidates)?

Why even acknowledge racial divides? There is NO such thing as positive discrimination.

 

i couldnt agree more adam... its high time that ALL discrimination was outlawed as only a level playing field should be tollerated.