OKAY DOKAY.

 

RIGHT NOW, Justin is more popular than Robbie Williams. I don't think I see any RW songs/album on any charts at all. :manson: FS/LS has outsold that Rudebox thing by MILES, and don't say that he only sold it in America, because in America sales stand about 3.5 million, and the album has worldwide sold like 7+ million, so although MOST of his sales come from America, he is still very popular elsewhere. There is probably NO country where you go and you don't know about JT, whereas, I had no idea who Robbie Williams was before last year. I know he has sold TREMENDOUS amounts of albums, but so has JT, and his last album/songs more than outshine any of RW's Rudebox singles. ^_^

Scotty, I'll leave the reply to you. :lol:

Yeah that's right just hide behind him. :smoke:

Edited August 18, 200717 yr by John Esteban

Rudebox sold more copies as FS/LS outside the US! even RIGHT now.. plus Justified and FS/LS will both end up with the same amount of copies sold.. ~8.000.000.. whereas Robs last 3 studioalbums sold also between 4-4.5 (Rudebox) and 7-7.5 million (Escapology and Intensive care)..

 

plus RW is a mega superstar in europe, everyhwere, i live in germany and here no one is as big as robbie williams, hes even bigger than madonna or any other artist, just look at his album sales only here, he ships 500.000 copies of his releases in its first week... he gets ifpi european 2x platinum certs in its first week of release (2.000.000). RW is the most consitant seller in europe.. even though his last album only shipped 600k in his home country UK, he sold millions outside the UK..

 

so ok in the us they prefer JT but in europe RW is the king. theres not a day in germany without RW on the Television.. Even Robs live albums sell better than studioalbums by BIG US artists in europe..

Yes but that's after like how many albums?

 

Just imagine in like 10 years how big Justin will be. You have to consider that Robbie has been in this industry FAR LONGER than Justin.

Yeah that's right just hide behind him. :smoke:

 

 

Yes. He's my big brother. I run to him when I'm scared. You know what John? You have just no idea how mega Robbie Williams is in this world. If you could only spend some time in Europe you'd soon realise. Over here there is just no comparison between the 2. Justin appeals to a very limited age group (generally teenagers). Robbie has fans from 5 to 90. Try getting a ticket for a Robbie concert over here. Robbie plays to crowds of 120,000 a night in a venue. Over several nights. Justin plays arenas holding about 8,000.

Justin has released 2 albums. Robbie has released about 10. Go do the math on sales. ( As for 'that thing' Rudebox. It was a side project. Something a bit experimental. Robbie did absolutely no promotion for it. He never even appeared on a TV show to sing a song from it. There were no TV adverts. Nothing. To sell 4.5 million copies of an experimental album in such circumstances is quite amazing).

 

 

 

OKAY DOKAY.

 

RIGHT NOW, Justin is more popular than Robbie Williams. I don't think I see any RW songs/album on any charts at all. :manson: FS/LS has outsold that Rudebox thing by MILES, and don't say that he only sold it in America, because in America sales stand about 3.5 million, and the album has worldwide sold like 7+ million, so although MOST of his sales come from America, he is still very popular elsewhere. There is probably NO country where you go and you don't know about JT, whereas, I had no idea who Robbie Williams was before last year. I know he has sold TREMENDOUS amounts of albums, but so has JT, and his last album/songs more than outshine any of RW's Rudebox singles. ^_^

 

:lol:

 

No-one is claiming Rudebox has sold more than FS/LS. But as you don't know anything about Rob, you would'nt know that Rudebox is a million miles away from his usual material. He usually does pop/rock, whilst this is rap/electro/dance type of album, so it would be like JT doing a heavy metal album, because that would alienate huge chunks of his fans. Now, as you know, JT has done a HUGE amount of promotion for his album with a tour etc, endless interviews, TV perfmances etc etc, Robbie has done NOTHING for Rudebox. It was released out of the blue, his record company did not even budget for it, while he was touring his previous album. He has never promoted anything off it, yet it still went to #1 in 14 (JT's album went to #1 in only 6) countries, sold 4.5m, was the fastest selling album of last year accross Europe, sold more than any album outside the US), by a solo artist in 2006, the single itself went to #1 in alot more countries than Sexyback. All of this with Robbie doing absolutely NO WORK whatsoever. So to compare the two albums could not be more ridiculous.

 

HOWEVER, Intensive Care, the last proper Robbie album which he promoted, was long awaited, he did a tour for etc etc, just like JT, IS an album for comparison :smoke: IC was released, and within just over two months, it sold 5.5 million copies, and was'nt even released in the worlds biggest music market, the US. FS/LS, was released earlier (in Sept of it's year), and sold only about 4.5m copies in THREE months, DESPITE being huge in the US. IC sold between 7-7.5 after it's first year, FS/LS has done the same, the only difference is, it sold near 4m between the US/Canada, whilst IC, was'nt even released there and yet Robbie still manged to sell the same. That is beyond amazing, and when you do the maths, if Rob did have the same success in the US/Canada as JT, IC would've sold over 11 MILLION. So as you can see these two albums are what you should be comparing, they are both recent, both acts promoted them heavily etc. It more than proves who is bigger on a global scale.

 

And as far as touring, Robbie's last tour was one of the biggest ever. He sold 3.6m tickets, including holding the Guinness Book of records for selling 1.6m tickets in just one single day. He can sell out massive staidums in record time in any country from Chile, to Dubai, to Australia. He is even the biggest selling non-Latino arist in South America. And as I said, JT stugges to sell out Arens's in his own country, never mind others. same can be said for loads of other big US acts.

 

Robbie is the single biggest male pop star of the 21st century in all fields, he's sold more concert tickets in the past decade than any band or singer, and he's sold more albums than any other male pop star, American or otherwise. :smoke:

Yes but that's after like how many albums?

 

Just imagine in like 10 years how big Justin will be. You have to consider that Robbie has been in this industry FAR LONGER than Justin.

 

He's only been a solo artist 5 years longer, hardly decades :lol:

 

And it is quite rare for an artist to last over 10 years, and release so many albums. And after those 10 years to contine to peak. If Justin is stil enjoying huge success in 2017, then fair play to him, but by then he'll be old, the kids will have grown up, and there will be another younger pop star doing what sells to fill his gap.

Best Selling UK Albums with Sales

 

01 Greatest Hits Queen 5,407,587

02 Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band Beatles 4,811,9963

03 What's The Story Morning Glory Oasis 4,314,715

04 Brothers In Arms Dire Straits 3,956,704

05 Gold - Greatest Hits Abba 3,943,950

06 The Dark Side Of The Moon Pink Floyd 3,781,993

07 Greatest Hits Ii Queen 3,644,619

08 Thriller Michael Jackson 3,578,107

09 Bad Michael Jackson 3,554,301

10 The Immaculate Collection Madonna 3,402,160

11 Stars Simply Red 3,361,115

12 Come On Over Shania Twain 3,344,280

13 Rumours Fleetwood Mac 3,135,844

14 Urban Hymns Verve 3,054,374

15 No Angel Dido 3,002,194

16 Bridge Over Troubled Water Simon & Garfunkel 3,001,062

17 Talk On Corners Corrs 2,944,547

18 Spice Spice Girls 2,920,669

19 Back To Bedlam James Blunt 2,895,874

20 White Ladder David Gray 2,851,429

21 Bat Out Of Hell Meat Loaf 2,837,285

22 Life For Rent Dido 2,789,719

23 But Seriously Phil Collins 2,737,932

24 1 Beatles 2,690,318

25 The Man Who Travis 2,669,825

26 The Joshua Tree U2 2,665,553

27 Greatest Hits Abba 2,598,576

28 Tubular Bells Mike Oldfield 2,575,099

29 A Rush Of Blood To The Head Coldplay 2,574,249

30 I've Been Expecting You Robbie Williams 2,556,042

31 Jagged Little Pill Alanis Morissette 2,551,238

32 Scissor Sisters Scissor Sisters 2,535,983

33 Legend Bob Marley & The Wailers 2,520,486

34 Hopes And Fears Keane 2,498,950

35 War Of The Worlds Jeff Wayne's Musical Version 2,452,236

36 The Sound Of Music Original Soundtrack 2,438,695

37 Dirty Dancing Original-Soundtrack-2,435,109

38 Ladies & Gentlemen - The Best Of George Michael 2,408,810

39 Grease Original Soundtrack 2,373,621

40 Come Away With Me Norah Jones 2,369,847

41 X&Y Coldplay 2,345,126

42 Tracy Chapman Tracy Chapman 2,342,506

43 Robson & Jerome Robson & Jerome 2,336,086

44 Tango In The Night Fleetwood Mac 2,333,819

45 Parachutes Coldplay 2,324,783

46 Automatic For The People Rem 2,270,332

47 Whitney Whitney Houston 2,237,603

48 The Marshall Mathers Lp Eminem 2,233,158

49 Swing When You're Winning Robbie Williams 2,205,028

50 Graceland Paul Simon 2,203,381

51 Sing When You're Winning Robbie Williams 2,182,097

52 Saturday Night Fever Original Soundtrack 2,151,142

53 The Bodyguard Original Soundtrack 2,138,030

54 The Very Best Of Elton John 2,134,524

55 Simply The Best Tina Turner 2,121,000

56 Kylie - The Album Kylie Minogue 2,105,698

57 Falling Into You Celine Dion 2,093,363

58 Life Thru A Lens Robbie Williams 2,074,860

59 Greatest Hits Eurythmics 2,055,996

60 Escapology Robbie Williams 2,037,380

61 Greatest Hits Robbie Williams 1,998,668

62 Let's Talk About Love Celine Dion 1,984,152

63 Dangerous Michael Jackson 1,983,954

64 True Blue Madonna 1,961,164

65 Appetite For Destruction Guns N' Roses 1,945,240

66 No Jacket Required Phil Collins 1,934,912

67 Abbey Road Beatles 1,925,783

68 A New Flame Simply Red 1,923,366

69 By The Way Red Hot Chili Peppers 1,915,008

70 Can't Slow Down Lionel Richie 1,891,896

71 Songs About Jane Maroon 5 1,868,548

72 Cross Road - The Best Of Bon Jovi 1,867,427

73 Stripped Christina Aguilera 1,850,852

74 Greatest Hits Simon & Garfunkel 1,840,454

75 Carry On Up The Charts - The Best Of Beautiful South 1,828,890

76 Play Moby 1,819,938

77 The Colour Of My Love Celine Dion 1,816,915

78 Born To Do It Craig David 1,816,781

79 The Greatest Hits Texas 1,809,480

80 Nevermind Nirvana 1,807,142

81 South Pacific Original Soundtrack 1,803,681

82 Justified Justin Timberlake 1,802,172

83 American Idiot Green Day 1,800,144

84 Be Here Now Oasis 1,799,784

85 Back To Front Lionel Richie 1,793,978

86 Out Of Time Rem 1,786,954

87 Call Off The Search Katie Melua 1,780,817

88 Employment Kaiser Chiefs 1,772,936

89 By Request Boyzone 1,770,728

90 Bat Out Of Hell Ii Meat Loaf 1,745,974

91 Definitely Maybe Oasis 1,740,386

92 Just Enough Education To Perform Stereophonics 1,731,863

93 Introducing The Hardline According To… Terence Trent D'arby 1,721,685

94 Missundaztood Pink 1,712,173

95 Let Go Avril Lavigne 1,711,088

96 Performance And Cocktails Stereophonics 1,710,522

97 Older George Michael 1,708,555

98 Parallel Lines Blondie 1,694,353

99 Fever Kylie Minogue 1,682,387

100 Good Reasons Jason Donovan 1,680,651

101 Ray Of Light Madonna 1,677,925

102 Coast To Coast Westlife 1,675,804

103 In Concert Carreras/Domingo/Pavarotti 1,668,571

104 Arrival Abba 1,653,225

105 Friday's Child Will Young 1,640,090

106 My Way - The Best Of Frank Sinatra 1,639,353

107 White On Blonde Texas 1,639,327

108 Ocean Drive Lighthouse Family 1,633,722

109 Like A Virgin Madonna 1,626,126

110 Gotta Get Thru This Daniel Bedingfield 1,614,517

 

 

 

I can spot at least 5 Robbie albums in the above chart, but nothing on Justin Timberlake :rofl: :funky: :P

He's at 82. :lol:

What an hilarious thread this has become :rofl:

I know. Must be the record for the most views in 24 hours! :lol:

He's at 82. :lol:

 

whoops :cry: but all 5 Albums by Robbie are ahead of JT :cheer:

whoops :cry:

 

 

Senility. Poor Mikey. :cry:

 

He's at 82. :lol:

 

:lol:

 

Although to be fair, Robbie is British so he would sell more in general. I wonder if either of JT's albums are in the USA top 100 ever though. Wonder where I can find a list -_-

Senility. Poor Mikey. :cry:

 

 

You didn't let me finish off my sentence :( before you quoted me

You didn't let me finish off my sentence :( before you quoted me

 

 

I'm very speedy :P

 

OMG, someone else has replied on that website. And whoever that someone is they ain't happy! Robbie's mum by the looks of it. :o

Just checked. There is'nt a Justin album to be seen in the top 400 albums ever in the US :o :wacko: and 400th is 5x plat, both of JT's are only 3x, so ..... :(

OMG, someone else has replied on that website. And whoever that someone is they ain't happy! Robbie's mum by the looks of it. :o

 

Mrs Williams? :rofl:

 

His mum is obviously not pleased. :lol: