the point is (to grimly and bry) that when an employer employs someone they expect 100% commitment from the employee. its better for all concerned that people all work hard in that time.

 

of course you can do wtf you want to in your own time, but, if it effects your employed time (like being hung-over) then the employer DOES have a right to step in. if i employed people id want workers who did a fair days whack for a fair days wage, why should others carry these deadweights?

 

If I was employing people I wouldn't want robots or human battery hens, you need some form of interaction at work, you could likewise say that employees should not talk at work because it might distract from work, 2 women in the typing pool gossiping about some fella they saw at a pub and comparing his muscles is as big a taking away from work time as searching for flights on Lastminute.com

 

I know myself that I can focus better and enjoy my work more and am indeed more productive when I have distractions in my work because it takes away from the drudgery and boredom of adding up figures all day or whatever so enjoying time at work more (net etc) means more work done as it is easier to be motivated as feel in a good mood

Edited September 4, 200717 yr by Vic Vega

If I was employing people I wouldn't want robots or human battery hens, you need some form of interaction at work, you could likewise say that employees should not talk at work because it might distract from work, 2 women in the typing pool gossiping about some fella they saw at a pub and comparing his muscles is as big a taking away from work time as searching for flights on Lastminute.com

 

I know myself that I can focus better and enjoy my work more and am indeed more productive when I have distractions in my work because it takes away from the drudgery and boredom of adding up figures all day or whatever so enjoying time at work more (net etc) means more work done as it is easier to be motivated as feel in a good mood

 

thats not the same thing though as being hungover or being slap-dash so you can read your internet c**p .. surely the internet isnt that important that you cant wait until hometime?

thats not the same thing though as being hungover or being slap-dash so you can read your internet c**p .. surely the internet isnt that important that you cant wait until hometime?

 

As long as all the designated work for the day is done I don't see the problem tbh

 

If the tasks for the day are not complete then steps have to be taken but as long as the tasks for the day are complete and the work done competently.......

I don't think it should be banned outright in the workplace, as long as the assigned work is completed when it should be, then why not. Not all workplaces are a place of joy and fun :lol:

 

But if you can't resist the urge to see who has poked you or hugged you or updated their status on Facebook for a working day then you seriously need help ^_^

 

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Will depend on the nature of the employment.

It's a matter between an employee and employer and has nothing to do with unions or the government IMO.

 

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to be honest, there aren't that many workplaces where i think this would be a problem. i've had two part time office jobs, both for equestrian insurance companies. one was quite big and had a large team and one is up and coming and only have a full time team of about 10 people. but both were very relaxed environments in which i had internet access (which was not necessary for about 70% of my work). It was quite normal to pop online to check your emails or whatever. I didn't have anyone peering over my shoulder, but presumably thats because I could pop online between answering phone calls and carrying on with my work and it didn't effect me. Surely if it was effecting my work then someone might have addressed it?

On the other hand, I now work part time for Tesco which is obviously a massive massive company. And they have to make so many stupid rules (for example I am only allowed to have a 500ml bottle of water with me in my shift because staff were taking too many toilet breaks!) To me, restricting internet access is like that - they are rules which are turning us from people into efficient robots!!

As long as all the designated work for the day is done I don't see the problem tbh

 

If the tasks for the day are not complete then steps have to be taken but as long as the tasks for the day are complete and the work done competently.......

 

'designated work'?.... so if you go to work to do a set amount, if you get that done you cant go online? or home? (i do! )..... but what happens if you DONT get your designated work done for the day? do you stop over until it is done? or get paid less?.. no thought not...

trouble is that the internet is addictive, you can get caught up in chat, arguments, debate, i think theres a reasonable chance that itll effect work.

 

the point is (to grimly and bry) that when an employer employs someone they expect 100% commitment from the employee. its better for all concerned that people all work hard in that time.

 

of course you can do wtf you want to in your own time, but, if it effects your employed time (like being hung-over) then the employer DOES have a right to step in. if i employed people id want workers who did a fair days whack for a fair days wage, why should others carry these deadweights?

 

I totally agree with Rob on this.

 

At work, those of us who require internet access via their sign-ons, are rightly (in my view) blocked from signing onto sites unless it has been specified and agreed otherwise due to these sites being related to work duties.

 

So for example I can happily view this site as a guest at lunchtime (to see the latest midweeks, etc), but I can't sign on if I happen to spot some crisis or issue which as a Global Mod here I could otherwise deal with.

 

Quite frankly, I would not want it any other way as it stops me being tempted to abuse my position or commitment to what I'm paid to do at work.

It's ridiculous to let employees use these sites while they're supposed to be working... an employee is there to work and I would feel guilty that I'm being paid to sit there and ogle Myspace. If it's an employee's break though, I don't see a problem with it and banning it is over the top.

Edited September 4, 200717 yr by Slick

surely we should be trusted by our employers enough to take responsibility for our choices/actions?!

surely we should be trusted by our employers enough to take responsibility for our choices/actions?!

 

 

Most employees can be trusted to use it occasionally, but there will always be some that take advantage, if and when they get caught they will spoil it for everyone. I am in charge of people, I turn a blind eye to moderate use of the internet for checking things but I would draw the line at spending hours on it on addictive sites like bj or something, :lol:

Well I know we're not allowed to use any of those sites or MSN itself at work. I mean I hate to sound like a killjoy but shouldn't WORK actually be for just that? I mean you get paid to do whatever job it is you do not to talk to people on Bebo all day.

 

Stuff lile MySpace and MSN are social tools which obv you go on in your social time.

'designated work'?.... so if you go to work to do a set amount, if you get that done you cant go online? or home? (i do! )..... but what happens if you DONT get your designated work done for the day? do you stop over until it is done? or get paid less?.. no thought not...

trouble is that the internet is addictive, you can get caught up in chat, arguments, debate, i think theres a reasonable chance that itll effect work.

 

Our positions were constantly under review and out performance monitored, as long as the performance was good and the work got done then the net ban was not enforced, those that did badly in the performance reviews and they were done very regularly indeed were ordered not to use the net for personal use and would be dismissed if they continued to and their performance suffered, those that were getting the work done and their performance was good (me included) they did not mind us using the net for personal use

To be honest I wouldn't really find much need to be online constantly at work; but I would hope that if I needed to go online for a minute I would be allowed as I would be trusted that I was not letting it effect my work. And if I got my work done then I would have a few moments spare to do it. And yes, if I don't get my work done in a day it spills over into 'my' time.

You need a motivated workforce and one that wants to work for the company so creating a team of corporate Stepford Wives or treating employees like naughty school children is not the answer, a company that has free spirits who are actually enjoying their working day as opposed to imposing petty rules on them is the best way to have a motivated workforce and to me that includes net access, imposing a load of rules makes work seem like school. If the work gets done then net access should not be a problem, if the work isn't done then it is a problem but so long as the work is done then net access should be allowed

Totally agreed. I work part time at Tesco to get a bit of cash and they have come up with a rule that noone is to take more than a 500ml bottle of drink with them whilst they are working because staff were needing to go to the toilet between their breaks and this is clearly not acceptable! They love nothing more than to treat us like naughty school children!

Totally agreed. I work part time at Tesco to get a bit of cash and they have come up with a rule that noone is to take more than a 500ml bottle of drink with them whilst they are working because staff were needing to go to the toilet between their breaks and this is clearly not acceptable! They love nothing more than to treat us like naughty school children!

 

That really angers me, if people need to go for a pee, then no employer should have the right to tell them they cant, no matter what the inconvienience. Relieving your bladder is a totally necessary biological function ffs.... <_< As is the need to take on board water during the hot Summer months to prevent dehydration, 500ml aint enough some days, some days you need to take on board around 2 litres to prevent dehydration.. Inexcusable behaviour on Tesco's part IMO, in total defiance of just about every expert medical opinion in the country.... I really hope at some point someone collapses from physical exhaustion and/or dehydration, and then sues the arse off fukkin' Tesco for their dodgy work practices....

My boss would be very upset if I couldnt use the internet at work

 

who else would keep him up to date with the latest cricket scores :P

I think that they should be allowed during official breaks but other then that, why do they need to be browsing facebook? If they've finished their work, then find more work to do. There must be something. They're not being paid to check out myspace. Things like that are for their free time.