I don't really think these people really are thinking for themselves to be honest.. Just swallowing all the sh!t that the rent-a-quote hacks and columnists like Tony Parsons and sodding Richard and Judy are spouting in the Tabloids.... <_< I dont call that "having your own opinion".....

 

The actual evidence is irrefutable, these people were negligent, end of story....

 

Even if you intensely disagree with them, you have to at least humour them - not everyone agrees. Even if you think that their opinion is baseless and absolute cr*p you have to tolerate it. No wonder people keep saying they won't come in here and defend their opinion (although to be honest I would love it if they did - if they explained their thinking it would be better!) But they aren't going to post in here because they know they'll be crucified.

I do not believe that the McCann's intended to hurt their child. I'm not denying that they acted incredibly irresponsibly and another life has suffered because of that. But I think that it was a mistake that had tragic consequences as opposed to a pre-meditated thing.

This thread is seriously disgusting.

 

How the f*** can you blame the parents? Fine, they shouldn't have left the kids in the room, but it's not like their the first, and they certaintly won't be the last. They were having a good time, and I'm sure they were going to chek on them. When we was on holiday in Turkey, the parents there would make sure there kids were asleep and then come down to the bar for a couple of drinks. It's not about NOT caring for them, it's there holiday and they were just having a good time. I'm sure they regret thier actions now as they have possibly lost a daughter.

 

I really hope this thread is a wind up.....

 

Maybe they weren't the first, but, hey, that hardly makes it an alright thing to do does it...? Would any of these parents you were on holiday with in Turkey even consider buggering off to the pub and leaving their kids on their own back at home...? I seriously doubt that.. So, why then, does it become acceptable behaviour while on holiday...? It's not acceptable, or excusable. In the slightest....

 

Even if you intensely disagree with them, you have to at least humour them - not everyone agrees. Even if you think that their opinion is baseless and absolute cr*p you have to tolerate it. No wonder people keep saying they won't come in here and defend their opinion (although to be honest I would love it if they did - if they explained their thinking it would be better!) But they aren't going to post in here because they know they'll be crucified.

I do not believe that the McCann's intended to hurt their child. I'm not denying that they acted incredibly irresponsibly and another life has suffered because of that. But I think that it was a mistake that had tragic consequences as opposed to a pre-meditated thing.

 

It is pre-meditated though, in the sense that they made plans to go to the Tapas Bar, and did so on several separate occasions... Pre-meditation doesn't only apply to murder cases Bry, it can apply to anything. Planning to rob a bank is pre-meditated, because there is a plan, it aint spur-of-the-moment if you get my meaning....

 

Kate McCann is being questioned on her own right now. Gerry will be questioned alone tomorrow. Their time's almost up guys!!

If it does turn out to be them the only strange thing is how it took the police so long to find out.

If it does turn out to be them the only strange thing is how it took the police so long to find out.

 

 

From what I gather they suspected them from day 1. All the media are sending full contingents out again so they must know it's all about to happen.

I don't think she'll be found, and the parents were definetley to blame.

From what I gather they suspected them from day 1. All the media are sending full contingents out again so they must know it's all about to happen.

 

the police are hardly likely to say anything today. Especially not until both parties have been interviewed. They will not make any comments to the press until they have sufficient evidence and arrests have been made.

 

And remember guys - innocent until proven guilty.

Even if you intensely disagree with them, you have to at least humour them - not everyone agrees. Even if you think that their opinion is baseless and absolute cr*p you have to tolerate it. No wonder people keep saying they won't come in here and defend their opinion (although to be honest I would love it if they did - if they explained their thinking it would be better!) But they aren't going to post in here because they know they'll be crucified.

 

and what good would 'tolerating c**p' do? theres the lounge to post bollox in, as far as im concerned im not bothered about the amount of traffic in here as much as the quality of posts.

 

i see no reason why anybody should be 'crucified' for posting a well thought out opinion wether or not anybody else agrees. time to grow up me thinks, hell ive disagreed with all the main posters in here, me, scott, craig, russt, tip, often disagree on topics and its this difference of opinion that makes for interesting debate. we, and others post our thoughts based on consideration and often in the full knowlege that others are going to shoot it down in flames (or try). does craig refrain from posting pro-thatcher sentiments even though he knows hes alone? ... no... he argues his case well as any adult would do! .... did i go off in a strop (or did russt) when we had a bitter debate about smoking?... no... i still regard him as a top bloke. i mean.... big effing deal if no one agrees! but then again i guess that if anyone isnt adult enough to roll with the blows and defend their point of view then this forum aint for them!

 

This thread is seriously disgusting.

 

How the f*** can you blame the parents?

:rolleyes: 'This thread is seriously disgusting?' no, it's one of the best things I've read all year. AT LAST people are stepping out of the brainwashed-media attention behind all this and are finally realising the facts BEHIND the story.

 

How can you blame the parents? Easily. There's really no point in saying it, 'cause I've said all I've wanted to in the other topic. All I can ask is, 'What parents would leave a 3 Year Old alone in a house, let alone an apartment in a foreign country'?

 

I find it so sad how some people are upset/supporting a girl/family of whom they've never met in their lives. :lol:

and what good would 'tolerating c**p' do? theres the lounge to post bollox in, as far as im concerned im not bothered about the amount of traffic in here as much as the quality of posts.

 

i see no reason why anybody should be 'crucified' for posting a well thought out opinion wether or not anybody else agrees. time to grow up me thinks, hell ive disagreed with all the main posters in here, me, scott, craig, russt, tip, often disagree on topics and its this difference of opinion that makes for interesting debate. we, and others post our thoughts based on consideration and often in the full knowlege that others are going to shoot it down in flames (or try). does craig refrain from posting pro-thatcher sentiments even though he knows hes alone? ... no... he argues his case well as any adult would do! .... did i go off in a strop (or did russt) when we had a bitter debate about smoking?... no... i still regard him as a top bloke. i mean.... big effing deal if no one agrees! but then again i guess that if anyone isnt adult enough to roll with the blows and defend their point of view then this forum aint for them!

 

Just because you think its cr** - it might still be a worthwhile opinion to someone else! That is my point. My point was in reference to the fact that people seem to think that anyone that disputes that the parents were to blame are completely and utterly wrong and not just wrong, but totally stupid for thinking so.

I've still considered my argument just because I don't completely agree with general opinion.

I like talking and debating current issues; I just think you've got to be tolerant of the other side and at least see where they are coming from! I thought that was the whole point of debate? :unsure:

This thread is seriously disgusting.

 

How the f*** can you blame the parents? Fine, they shouldn't have left the kids in the room, but it's not like their the first, and they certaintly won't be the last. They were having a good time, and I'm sure they were going to chek on them. When we was on holiday in Turkey, the parents there would make sure there kids were asleep and then come down to the bar for a couple of drinks. It's not about NOT caring for them, it's there holiday and they were just having a good time. I'm sure they regret thier actions now as they have possibly lost a daughter.

 

Well I've avoided commenting too much on what may or may not have happened in this thread because to me that is hearsay and gossipping, and not dealing with facts or opinions which is what I prefer to discuss.

 

But I've had and kept my opinion of this story from day one. <_<

 

 

So let's throw in these facts:

 

1. The significant majority of child murders (68%) are done by (at least) one of the parents or a family relative.

 

2. Today, Kate McCann arrived at Portimao police station for formal questioning,nine hours later the Radio 5 Live 10PM bulletin headline story is that (in a near unprecedented step) she is staying overnight to continue with the questioning.

 

3. On Friday, Mr McCann is to face further questioning himself.

 

4. They've had the unflinching sycophantic support of the Daily Express newspaper, the same newspaper that still (ridiculously) insists that Princess Diana was murdered by a Prince Charles/Prince Phillip/MI6 plot; and the same paper who in 2006 famously (disgustingly) accused Jane Tomlinson, British charity fund raiser of faking her terminal cancer illness.

Just because you think its cr** - it might still be a worthwhile opinion to someone else! That is my point. My point was in reference to the fact that people seem to think that anyone that disputes that the parents were to blame are completely and utterly wrong and not just wrong, but totally stupid for thinking so.

I've still considered my argument just because I don't completely agree with general opinion.

I like talking and debating current issues; I just think you've got to be tolerant of the other side and at least see where they are coming from! I thought that was the whole point of debate? :unsure:

 

 

It is Bry, everyone is always entitled to their opinion... -_-

I was looking at the news earlier... The Mccanns are (rightfully) being questioned again.. :rolleyes:

1. The significant majority of child murders (68%) are done by (at least) one of the parents or a family relative.

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Thats terrifying. I can't even begin to understand these people! If it ends up that the McCanns were guilty of more than neglect and actually murder which it is looking more likely; well...I'm speechless - it's so disgusting!

Just because you think its cr** - it might still be a worthwhile opinion to someone else!

 

i wouldnt dispute that, and both myself and i know scott respects contrary opinions if they have been arrived at by some degree of consideration and thought. what we both dont like are lazy, ill conceived, one line opinions that add nothing to the thread. scott and i regularly disagree with eachother! and craig is often out on a limb, but we dont take it personally and post away.

 

 

11 hours she was questioned..... that should have been done weeks ago. but i still cant see how they are involved, ok i might be wrong, but it just doesnt make sense.

 

 

 

Kate McCann formally named as a suspect according to her spokesperson

 

It's so weird that someone would do something like that not just to a child, but to their child. Grim.

It's so weird that someone would do something like that not just to a child, but to their child. Grim.

 

If it turn's out to be them (& it's looking likely) I'm sure it wasn't a cold blooded killing. Maybe they were giving her something to sleep & gave her too much or she fell as as a result & then they disposed of the body. Still totally horrific of course! :(

If it turn's out to be them (& it's looking likely) I'm sure it wasn't a cold blooded killing. Maybe they were giving her something to sleep & gave her too much or she fell as as a result & then they disposed of the body. Still totally horrific of course! :(

 

You would think though if they had dumped the body it would have started to decompose by now, so it would have caused a smell and people might have found it. However I am sure the McCanns had something to do with it

You would think though if they had dumped the body it would have started to decompose by now, so it would have caused a smell and people might have found it. However I am sure the McCanns had something to do with it

 

Not if it is burnt for instance not that I want to turn this thread into a gorefest of possible ways Madeleine was disposed of