soo... they are handing out tax cuts, reduce/cancel stamp duty and raise inheritance tax threshold. fair enough, two reasonable propositions, but apart from that is cameron and co really capeable of running the country? are they a credible oposition? can they beat thatcherbrown?

As a party do I think they are ready to govern again ? Yes

 

Is Cameron a credible leader ? NO

 

Cameron reminds me of Blair he is smarmy, insincere, fake, says what he thinks newspaper editors want him to say, would he make a good statesman ? No I don't think he would, one thing Brown has in his favour is he is a good statesman and looks professional in times of crisis, Cameron is all soundbites and PR stunts (cycling to work every day for instance as a PR stunt while at the same time having a gas guzzling chauffer driving behind him with his briefcase in the car)

 

Cameron will cost us the next election I think even though the party itself is ready to govern

I like Cameron as he speaks out against a lot of issues that Labour are happy to just sit on the fence on, though his policies wont work imo

I like Cameron as he speaks out against a lot of issues that Labour are happy to just sit on the fence on, though his policies wont work imo

 

but its all hot air, hes just talking, theres no substance to him.

As a party do I think they are ready to govern again ? Yes

 

Is Cameron a credible leader ? NO

 

Cameron reminds me of Blair he is smarmy, insincere, fake, says what he thinks newspaper editors want him to say, would he make a good statesman ? No I don't think he would, one thing Brown has in his favour is he is a good statesman and looks professional in times of crisis, Cameron is all soundbites and PR stunts (cycling to work every day for instance as a PR stunt while at the same time having a gas guzzling chauffer driving behind him with his briefcase in the car)

 

Cameron will cost us the next election I think even though the party itself is ready to govern

 

well i dont agree that the tories are fit to govern, but i do agree with everything else. maggie brown is statesmanlike, unlike boy cameron.... brown is so much like thatch he was even wearing a blue tie today! lol.

Historically the Tories have been known as the stupid party. They showed themselves to be worthy of that label by electing a Blair clone when Blair mark one was at his least popular.

I give Cameron credit for coming down firmly against compulsory ID cards, but that sure aint enough to actually make me want to vote for the smug, smarmy little Blair-lite git.... :lol: :lol:

I give Cameron credit for coming down firmly against compulsory ID cards, but that sure aint enough to actually make me want to vote for the smug, smarmy little Blair-lite git.... :lol: :lol:

 

Even Cameron can't be wrong all the time :lol: But don't forget that the Tories dithered for a long time before coming out against ID cards. The Lib Dems, OTOH, have opposed them consistently.

 

 

I give Cameron credit for coming down firmly against compulsory ID cards, but that sure aint enough to actually make me want to vote for the smug, smarmy little Blair-lite git.... :lol: :lol:

 

yeah but what he says and what effect it has is two totally different things! its easy in oposition to spout hot air, im not convinced that he would go through with it, besides its merely a vote catching stunt.

Of course they are a credible opposition, but a credible Government.......well that's something completely different ;)

General election to be called tomorrow by Brown (Nov 1st)

 

After Cameron's pledges on stamp duty, inheritance tax and immigration looks like Brown could well lose this coming election even with a buffoon like Cameron leading the party

 

Tax and immigration will be the 2 big issues of the next general election and we blow Brown out of the water on both issues

Even Cameron can't be wrong all the time :lol: But don't forget that the Tories dithered for a long time before coming out against ID cards. The Lib Dems, OTOH, have opposed them consistently.

 

Considering the Tories had so many leadership changes actually identifying their policy on just about anything was pretty difficult.... :lol:

General election to be called tomorrow by Brown (Nov 1st)

 

After Cameron's pledges on stamp duty, inheritance tax and immigration looks like Brown could well lose this coming election even with a buffoon like Cameron leading the party

 

Tax and immigration will be the 2 big issues of the next general election and we blow Brown out of the water on both issues

 

nonsense... labour will p*** it.

 

camerons full of hot air and i doubt if anyone takes what he says seriously.

nonsense... labour will p*** it.

 

camerons full of hot air and i doubt if anyone takes what he says seriously.

 

Disagree

 

The tabloids (Mail, Express and The Sun) will all express their support for Cameron and that could be crucial in the polls

 

Do not underestimate how big this inheritance tax thing is in terms of bringing votes to the party not to mention stamp duty

 

People vote with their wallets and if their wallets are going to bulge through stamp duty and inheritance tax then I think we have a new PM in a month time

Disagree

 

The tabloids (Mail, Express and The Sun) will all express their support for Cameron and that could be crucial in the polls

 

Do not underestimate how big this inheritance tax thing is in terms of bringing votes to the party not to mention stamp duty

 

People vote with their wallets and if their wallets are going to bulge through stamp duty and inheritance tax then I think we have a new PM in a month time

 

labour inhabit the middle right ground, once the home of thatcher, thats the winning card. the tories are miles behind in the polls and maggie brown is increasing his lead, in tory party conference week!

 

the tories will not win, they wont even come a creditable second...