Posted December 13, 200717 yr ive always found it strange that some tracks that are regarded as 'christmas records' arnt really... to me a crimbo record is one that is specifically created as a crimbo record.. eg.... 'stop the cavalry' , which is actually a protest record, not a crimbo one, but because crimbo and some jingle bells get a mention in a chorus its lumped in with crimbo records! simularly 'fairytale of new york' is more a track built around a situation at crimbo time as opposed to one celebrating crimbo... any more that have qualified by 'default'?
December 13, 200717 yr We Have All The Time in the World is now associated with Xmas but I have no idea why. Both the records mentioned take place at Xmas which is probably why they are both so good.
December 13, 200717 yr I quite agree, about STOP THE CALVARY etc, like I said in the Biggest Selling Christmas Records thread, on chart chat. Do you know, I saw another list that had, MILLENIUM PRAYER in it!! It may have been in the chart at Christmas, BUT not a Christmas song! Other ones are, PIPES OF PEACE, A WINTERS TALE, PERFECT YEAR, WINTER WORLD OF LOVE, WALKING IN THE AIR and ALL AROUND MY HAT. Someone else suggested to me that the POWER OF LOVE - FRANKIE GOES TO HOLLYWOOD was actually a Christmas song, because the video, is about the wisemen etc. I certainly do not consider that it is a Christmas song! Someone else suggested that GRANDMA`S PARTY - PAUL NICHOLAS was a Christmas song, because it starts with a few bars of AULD LANG SYNE! We already, worked out that MARY HAD A LITTLE BOY - SNAP, was not actually about Mary and Joseph, but just cashed in on the title!
December 13, 200717 yr eg.... 'stop the cavalry' , which is actually a protest record, not a crimbo one, but because crimbo and some jingle bells get a mention in a chorus its lumped in with crimbo records! any more that have qualified by 'default'? didnt that come out in germany in july??? and was a massive hit well frankie goes to hollywood's power of love think that was a big ibiza trance tune in the summer of 2000??? so obv not xmas. v clever video directing and concept there for the original versh :lol: cant think where xmas comes into it without knowledge of the video. also mew - she comes home for christmas, that only the last line mentions it , so i guess we could have the wombats as a xmas tune as well!!! It's not me! It can't be! It's not you! I cant' do what I do if we're through This is not happening Don't touch her there He watched her She knew his look from behind When she came home for christmas This is not happening also that chris de bugh song. is the spaceman an allegory for father xmas??? is it symbolic???
December 13, 200717 yr Chris De Burgh - A spaceman came travelling............................played at this time usually but nothing to do with xmas David Essex - A winters tale.............................No mention of xmas in the lyrics David Bowie/Bing Crosby - Peace on earth/Little drummer boy......again no mention of xmas
December 17, 200717 yr Theres one that gets played every year, and is usually on all the compilations, its an instrumental but dounno who it is?
December 17, 200717 yr Theres one that gets played every year, and is usually on all the compilations, its an instrumental but dounno who it is? that twidldy twidly twidly twee lah de darh record that sounds like it should be used for mayday and morris dancers around the maypole. think its mike oldfield???
December 17, 200717 yr Think the song you mean is Mike Oldfield's 'In Dulce Jubilo' which reached #4 in the charts in December 1975.
December 18, 200717 yr The PC brigade have even got their claws into the best xmas song ever now :manson: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7149525.stm When will this PC $h!t ever fukkin end :rolleyes:
December 18, 200717 yr The PC brigade have even got their claws into the best xmas song ever now :manson: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7149525.stm When will this PC $h!t ever fukkin end :rolleyes: I'm pasting my response to your post in the "One of the Most ridiculous things about this country" thread over in "Perspectives" because I dont think I could come up with another response to this which could replicate my disgust at this.... This aint Political Correctness mate, it's pure, old fashioned, unadulterated fukkin' CENSORSH!T!!!!! They're chopping the best lines from the song, messing around with one of the country's most beloved Christmas anthems. HOW FUKKING VERY DARE THEY.. Sorry, but this is just bloody silly, it's HARDLY the same thing as some rapper b/s like "Yo b**ch, suck my dick" or some Ragga a-hole singing "Me gunna kill dem batty boys".... This is a song about a couple having a blazing, drunken row at Christmas and both giving as good as they get.... It's funny, it sure as hell aint offensive to men, women or gays... I mean, what else you gonna rhyme with " You scumbag, you maggot"....????? Fukkin' BBC have clearly no idea of CONTEXT......
December 18, 200717 yr LMAO. :rofl: This was played on the radio last night, alot of it was censored out anyway, more then two words. :lol: It's pathetic, BBC are pathetic, THIS nation is... pathetic. :lol:
December 18, 200717 yr The PC brigade have even got their claws into the best xmas song ever now :manson: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7149525.stm When will this PC $h!t ever fukkin end :rolleyes: It make`s it even more ridiculous, when the song is over 20 years old!! As Eric Idle sang: "Life`s a piece of $h!t, when you look at it!"
December 18, 200717 yr Think the song you mean is Mike Oldfield's 'In Dulce Jubilo' which reached #4 in the charts in December 1975. In Dulci Jubilo is actually a traditional carol, with the same tune as Good Christian Men Rejoice...theres the Christmas connection. However, from January 1976, Radio one played the other side, of the record, On Horseback.
December 18, 200717 yr Author The PC brigade have even got their claws into the best xmas song ever now :manson: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7149525.stm When will this PC $h!t ever fukkin end :rolleyes: this is just plain idiotic on so many levels..... too many to list but the main thing that springs to mind.... WHY AFTER TWENTY FCUKIN YEARS?....
December 19, 200717 yr this is just plain idiotic on so many levels..... too many to list but the main thing that springs to mind.... WHY AFTER TWENTY FCUKIN YEARS?.... I so agree, this is ridiculous!
December 19, 200717 yr WHY AFTER TWENTY FCUKIN YEARS?.... This is likely some idiot who's been newly promoted and wants to make their "individual stamp" of authority or whatever.... Whoever it is that's made this decision is beyond a halfwit, and almost into George W Bush levels of stupidity.... -_-
December 19, 200717 yr I heard Radio 1 have rescinded their decision now. Seems they bowed to pressure ;) http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7150693.stm
December 20, 200717 yr Chris De Burgh - A spaceman came travelling............................played at this time usually but nothing to do with xmas David Essex - A winters tale.............................No mention of xmas in the lyrics David Bowie/Bing Crosby - Peace on earth/Little drummer boy......again no mention of xmasfor "A Spaceman came Travelling" - this has always been seen by many as an alternative take on the nativity story. I just looked up the lyrics - I'd say it was written with Christmas in mind... A spaceman came travelling on his ship from afar, twas light years of time since his mission did start, And over a village he halted his craft, And it hung in the sky like a star, just like a star... He followed light and came down to a shed, Where a mother and a child were lying there on a bed, A bright light of silver shone round his head, And he had the face of an angel, and they were afraid... Then the stranger spoke, he said do not fear, I come from a planet a long way from here, And I bring a message for mankind to hear, And suddenly the sweetest music filled the air... And it went la, la... Peace and goodwill to all men, and love for the child... clever play on the nativity theme... A Winter's Tale isn't a Christmas song, although it appeared (was on UKTV Gold a few weeks ago) on the Christmas edition of The Two Ronnies in 1982! It only became a big hit in January 1983, after the festive season (a bit like Pipes Of Peace a year later). The Bowie / Crosby song was from Crosby's 1977 Christmas special (the year Bowie played the Grim Reaper, appearing on TV specials where the main host died a week or two later, he'd been on Marc Bolan's show on ITV a few weeks earlier...) and Little Drummer Boy is seen as a Christmas song. Bowie refused to sing Little Drummer Boy as a duet and insisted on this improvisation by singing Peace On Earth alongside Crosby singing LDB. The best example of a non-Christmas themed song being associated with Christmas is "When A Child Is Born" by Johnny Mathis. It seems to be about Jesus, it reached #1 at the right time of year, but it's an example of a song with the right sounding theme hitting the charts at the right time. I believe the Mathis version had been released in late summer 1976, finally charted in early November 1976 and it just grew from there. Even Mathis himself was said to be surprised that it was seen as a Christmas song. Edited December 20, 200717 yr by Robbie
December 24, 200717 yr for "A Spaceman came Travelling" - this has always been seen by many as an alternative take on the nativity story. I just looked up the lyrics - I'd say it was written with Christmas in mind... A spaceman came travelling on his ship from afar, twas light years of time since his mission did start, And over a village he halted his craft, And it hung in the sky like a star, just like a star... He followed light and came down to a shed, Where a mother and a child were lying there on a bed, A bright light of silver shone round his head, And he had the face of an angel, and they were afraid... Then the stranger spoke, he said do not fear, I come from a planet a long way from here, And I bring a message for mankind to hear, And suddenly the sweetest music filled the air... And it went la, la... Peace and goodwill to all men, and love for the child... clever play on the nativity theme... A Winter's Tale isn't a Christmas song, although it appeared (was on UKTV Gold a few weeks ago) on the Christmas edition of The Two Ronnies in 1982! It only became a big hit in January 1983, after the festive season (a bit like Pipes Of Peace a year later). The Bowie / Crosby song was from Crosby's 1977 Christmas special (the year Bowie played the Grim Reaper, appearing on TV specials where the main host died a week or two later, he'd been on Marc Bolan's show on ITV a few weeks earlier...) and Little Drummer Boy is seen as a Christmas song. Bowie refused to sing Little Drummer Boy as a duet and insisted on this improvisation by singing Peace On Earth alongside Crosby singing LDB. The best example of a non-Christmas themed song being associated with Christmas is "When A Child Is Born" by Johnny Mathis. It seems to be about Jesus, it reached #1 at the right time of year, but it's an example of a song with the right sounding theme hitting the charts at the right time. I believe the Mathis version had been released in late summer 1976, finally charted in early November 1976 and it just grew from there. Even Mathis himself was said to be surprised that it was seen as a Christmas song. On that edition of the Two Ronnies....originally, the BBC recorded a 50 minute version, of that show, but it was cut to 43 minutes, to be broadcasted on Christmas Day 1982. The 50 minute show, has never been shown, by the BBC, but in 1997, UK GOLD showed the full unedited programme, it hasn`t been shown since. The BBC showed another edited show, around 1998, where a sketch, from a 70s show, was added. On the original programme, there was a Christmas song medley, at the end, including David Esses, joining in...when Corbett/Baker sign off Ronnie B. says we won`t be with you again until next year. I have not seen that version of the show, since 1982! There is also, a 1980 series, that has never been repeated. It went out in Jan/Feb 1980, Barbera Dickson, was the guest. The series only ran for 6 editions, at 35 minutes, a programme. Wonder why, it has never been repeated on BBC, or Gold channels? On the 1983 Christmas show Elton John sing Cold as Christmas...a line in this song goes, "As cold as Christmas in the middle of the year"...apt, when the show was shown again, in Jul 1984!
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