Just been watching this on Sky News. People are saying there could be civil war. :cry:

 

 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/7161590.stm

Was always going to happen she was a dead woman walking, hated by Islamic extremists because of her love of Bush and the war on terror, hated by Musharraf, hated by the military, the list of suspects will be endless

 

I suspect that it was Al Qaeda, had she won the election she would have stepped up the war on terror and clamped down on Al Qaeda in Pakistan and also she would have been seen in the region as a puppet of Bush

 

Sad but inevitable

I agree with everything you posted Craig. I really despair for Pakistan. It's turning in to such a basket case of a country. :cry:

I suspect that it was Al Qaeda

Sad but inevitable

 

I would be more inclined to say Musharraf had a hand in this tbh, she was much more of a threat to his stranglehold on power and considering the fact that he put the country under virtual martial law a while back, I would put nothing past him, he's as bad as Putin IMO.... If it was an Al Qaeda assassin, I certainly believe they had the nod from on high in the Musharraf admin.... <_<

 

But this is what you get for being a puppet of Bush in that part of the world really innit...? -_-

On Sky it says violence is starting. Buildings are being set on fire. :cry:

On Sky it says violence is starting. Buildings are being set on fire. :cry:

 

Oh fukk..... :o This will not end well....

Musharraf will need to re-instate martial law I think. Wonder who has control of the nukes..... :o :o :o

 

The worrying thing is that the Pakistani military and intelligence services are riddled with Al Quaeda/ Taliban supporters. Is Musharraf even in charge of things? Does he have 100% loyalty in the military?

 

Every 'leader' in that country seems as dodgy as the next. :wacko:

focking hell, civil war will start between the two countries.

 

I wonder who would take the presidential role

I would be more inclined to say Musharraf had a hand in this tbh, she was much more of a threat to his stranglehold on power and considering the fact that he put the country under virtual martial law a while back, I would put nothing past him, he's as bad as Putin IMO.... If it was an Al Qaeda assassin, I certainly believe they had the nod from on high in the Musharraf admin.... <_<

 

But this is what you get for being a puppet of Bush in that part of the world really innit...? -_-

 

I don't think Musharraf would be that stupid, he is a lot of things but he is also a smart guy and knows he would be suspected across the world so I don't think he would be personally involved in this he is too canny a politician for that, whether military people or others in his regime were involved is another matter but I don't think Musharraf would give the nod for this sorta thing, he is a house arrest and imprisonment type of person not assassinations. He even commuted a death sentence on Sharif who had tried to kill Musharraf by making his plane run out of fuel so I doubt that Musharraf was personally involved

 

I would say most likely in order :

 

1) Al Qaeda - Bhutto had pledged to crack down on Al Qaeda members hiding in Pakistan and hand them over to America

2) Islamic extremists - Bhutto was very pro west particularly America so extremists might have seen her as a threat to Pakistan culture

3) India - trying to destabilise Pakistan

4) Military leaders - She had recently made a speech slagging off the Pakistan military and Rawalpindi is the HQ of Pakistan military

5) Another opposition group - Knowing Musharraf would be blamed they wanted to discredit Musharraf

6) Musharraf - Doubtful as he is too smart to resort to this

I'd put my money on Islamic fundamentalists as well. <_<

must admit i agree with craig on this...

George Galloway thinks Musharaf was behind it

 

 

http://www.georgegalloway.com/

Terrible news :( I know she was risking her life but it is sad that she was assasinated and that the whoever murdered her blew himself up and killed many other people. It must have been Islamic Extremists.

This is obvious that this would happen, but a huge shame :(

This is obvious that this would happen, but a huge shame :(

 

I agree. Who was behind it though is more difficult to quantify. I'm torn between the cynical part of me that thinks Musharaf was behind it and can pass the blame onto Al Qaeda, but Islamic Extremists have one hell of a lot more reasons for wanting Bhutto dead, not least because of her sex. According to the BBC news if Bhutto gained power she promised American forces the rights to go into Pakistan to take out Al Qaeda cells, etc.

I saw a bit about this on the news, apparntly there is mayhem going on over there.

 

Dosn't shock me really, she was always walking on thin ice that woman.

Well quite evidently an awful day for Pakistan. No elections will happen now in January.

 

She was a popular woman in Pakistan and the move to assassinate her was obviously a deliberate attempt at destabilising the region. Who may have done this on the other hand remains unclear for now. The media will be quick to jump at 'Al-Queda', terrorism etc etc but the situation in Pakistan is so multi-dimensional that such an assumption is/will be foolhardy to make. The non-cynical side suspects this had nothing to do with terrorism at all and instead plays into a bigger part of the political field in the Islamic world. I would be shocked if Musharraf DIDN'T play a role in her death...

 

One thing this makes clear though is that the USA needs to butt out and let countries make their own decisions. You CANNOT push for democracy but also FORCE a candidate upon people to vote for. An obvious sham that's imploded in the US's face today...

 

Oh and may I add too that Bhutto was more than aware of the risks she faced and must surely have been aware of the risks she faced on a day-to-day basis (the assassination attempt a mere few weeks ago for example) yet she continued to campaign for democracy and free elections (virulently apposed to one man's martial law remember...) and must have been well aware that she was near certain to die before January's elections, yet went on. She may have been a style over substance character but she was in my mind, a truly courageous individual...

Look at this. Talk about a powderkeg...

I'm really worried about the funeral tomorrow :cry:

 

 

(You need to click on 'Crowds Mob Bhutto's casket' at right hand side of screen )

 

 

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video/world...hutto.casket.ap

I don't think Musharraf would be that stupid, he is a lot of things but he is also a smart guy and knows he would be suspected across the world so I don't think he would be personally involved in this he is too canny a politician for that, whether military people or others in his regime were involved is another matter but I don't think Musharraf would give the nod for this sorta thing, he is a house arrest and imprisonment type of person not assassinations. He even commuted a death sentence on Sharif who had tried to kill Musharraf by making his plane run out of fuel so I doubt that Musharraf was personally involved

 

I would say most likely in order :

 

1) Al Qaeda - Bhutto had pledged to crack down on Al Qaeda members hiding in Pakistan and hand them over to America

2) Islamic extremists - Bhutto was very pro west particularly America so extremists might have seen her as a threat to Pakistan culture

3) India - trying to destabilise Pakistan

4) Military leaders - She had recently made a speech slagging off the Pakistan military and Rawalpindi is the HQ of Pakistan military

5) Another opposition group - Knowing Musharraf would be blamed they wanted to discredit Musharraf

6) Musharraf - Doubtful as he is too smart to resort to this

 

Well, I doubt Musharraf is exactly cut up about it mate... If he wasn't involved directly, I certainly think he "looked the other way" at the very least, I would say Musharraf is an accessory.. An AQ assassin may have performed the deed, but, I think they had aid from on high and an unspoken order was given from within the regime to let it happen...

 

A bit like 9/11.....

Well, I doubt Musharraf is exactly cut up about it mate... If he wasn't involved directly, I certainly think he "looked the other way" at the very least, I would say Musharraf is an accessory.. An AQ assassin may have performed the deed, but, I think they had aid from on high and an unspoken order was given from within the regime to let it happen...

 

A bit like 9/11.....

 

I fail to see what Musharraf gains out of this though

 

Sure a popular rival is out of the frame but as a result of this yesterday it is pretty safe to say that Musharraf won't be dying peacefully in his sleep of old age, he is 100 times more at risk now of being assassinated so I don't think that he would do something like this as he would be signing his own death warrant by doing so, an alive Bhutto is of far more use to him than a dead one