Goa's Chief Minister has sparked fresh controversy over the circumstances surrounding the murder of Scarlett Keeling by accusing her mother of negligence and saying she failed to properly take care of her.

 

Digambar Kamat rejected a request from Fiona MacKeown that federal investigators take over the investigation into the murder of her 15-year-old daughter because local police were corrupt. While he said the actions of police in Goa would be examined, he also sought to turn the focus upon Mrs MacKeown.

 

"She left a minor girl in someone else's custody," said Mr Kamat. "Tourists should be more responsible."

 

Police said they wished to speak to Mrs MacKeown but denied reports that they are to investigate her for negligence. Inspector Braz Menezes said he wished to give Mrs MacKeown a copy of the deposition police placed before the court that remanded in custody a barman at the beach bar where Scarlett was last seen alive.

 

Samson Da Souza, 28, has been remanded for 14 days in connection with the rape and murder of Scarlett.

 

Yet Mrs MacKeown's lawyer, Vikram Varma, said he believed the police might seek to investigate her in order to shift attention from allegations she has made about local officers. "They have decided to harass her because she has shown the corruption to the media," said Mr Varma.

 

The partially naked body of Scarlett, from Devon, was found three weeks ago. Police initially said she had drowned but pressure from Mrs MacKeown forced the authorities to conduct a second set of post-mortem tests which suggested her death was "homicidal".

 

Source:The Independent

 

 

Is he right? Should she have left a 15 year old alone with a 25 year old new boyfriend in a strange country, so she could go off touring? Why is she not at school anyway, she is 15?

 

Would she most probably still be alive today, if the mother had not left her alone?

 

Or is the mother completely innocent of negligence?

 

What do you think?

of course he's right...and the lack of any remorse from this mother in the TV interview she did was staggering.

 

Apart from neglecting her child, this stupid bint has obviously neglected contraception.... 9 children? How many fathers? And not a job in sight...

 

Whilst all this drugged-up airy-fairy hippy dippy nonsense may bring out this mother's 'inner self' and help her feel her spirit - it's cost her daughter her life.

 

Goa is possibly the last place on earth I'd let a 15 year old girl alone in - it's packed to the rafters with hundreds of thousands of dodgy foreigners - most either selling or using drugs - as well as throngs of locals who know the easiest way to befriend, bed or bamboozle a foreigner is through drugs. It's insane that this mother allowed her daughter to even visit the well-known drug haven that Goa has become - nevermind LEAVE her there without parental care.

No she was not irresponsible, but it's irresponsible of a public figure like a minister to blame someone who just lost her daughter.

i disagree russ... she was 15 and her death could have happened wether her mother was on site or not. 1 of 9 kids, what mother would hold her 15 year olds hand 24/7?...

 

tbh i dont think we can judge this, we arnt at the resort, we dont know the victim (was she 'mature' or childish for 15?), we dont know the circumstances.

tbh i dont think we can judge this, we arnt at the resort, we dont know the victim (was she 'mature' or childish for 15?), we dont know the circumstances.

 

Bollocks mate, we cant go around criticising the 'parenting skills' of the McCanns, and let this dozy bint off the hook.... Goa is an incredibly dodgy place, about as "spiritual" as Hackney or Brixton on a Saturday night... What the fukk was this so-called "parent" thinking leaving a 15-year old girl to basically fend for herself.... She basically buggers off god knows where and leaves her 15 year old daughter in the "care" of a 25-year old man, I mean, Jesus effing Christ!!!! If someone did that in this country, they'd be hauled before the courts, simple as.... As Brian said, the girl should be in school, this woman has failed in her duties as a parent as much as the McCanns did when they left their kids alone in a hotel room while they went out to a bar....

 

Of course, I do concede that the Goan chief minister is probably trying to deflect attention away from the woefully incompetent police "investigation", but essentially, his criticisms of Mrs McKeown are correct....

 

While I can't find fault with what he said it was not appropriate to publicly say it when the woman is grieving for the loss of her daughter, if he wanted to think that privately then fine but his statement is unhelpful and adds even more distress for a grieving family

 

I agree with the guy but there is a time and a place to say this stuff and now is certainly not the time

Well it could be irresponsible of the Mother to leave the kid but that doesn't give the right for anyone to commit rape/murder.

 

But why was the 15 year old at school???

Bollocks mate, we cant go around criticising the 'parenting skills' of the McCanns, and let this dozy bint off the hook.... Goa is an incredibly dodgy place, about as "spiritual" as Hackney or Brixton on a Saturday night... What the fukk was this so-called "parent" thinking leaving a 15-year old girl to basically fend for herself.... She basically buggers off god knows where and leaves her 15 year old daughter in the "care" of a 25-year old man, I mean, Jesus effing Christ!!!! If someone did that in this country, they'd be hauled before the courts, simple as.... As Brian said, the girl should be in school, this woman has failed in her duties as a parent as much as the McCanns did when they left their kids alone in a hotel room while they went out to a bar....

 

Of course, I do concede that the Goan chief minister is probably trying to deflect attention away from the woefully incompetent police "investigation", but essentially, his criticisms of Mrs McKeown are correct....

I have to agree! Of course it's so very sad that her daughter has died, but what was the mother thinking of when she left her daughter in the care of someone she hadn't known for long and in a place like Goa. And like Brian said, why wasn't she at school?

Bollocks mate, we cant go around criticising the 'parenting skills' of the McCanns, and let this dozy bint off the hook.... Goa is an incredibly dodgy place, about as "spiritual" as Hackney or Brixton on a Saturday night... What the fukk was this so-called "parent" thinking leaving a 15-year old girl to basically fend for herself.... She basically buggers off god knows where and leaves her 15 year old daughter in the "care" of a 25-year old man, I mean, Jesus effing Christ!!!! If someone did that in this country, they'd be hauled before the courts, simple as.... As Brian said, the girl should be in school, this woman has failed in her duties as a parent as much as the McCanns did when they left their kids alone in a hotel room while they went out to a bar....

 

Of course, I do concede that the Goan chief minister is probably trying to deflect attention away from the woefully incompetent police "investigation", but essentially, his criticisms of Mrs McKeown are correct....

 

your probably right but we just dont know, and i stick by my post refering to the independance of a 15 year old girl... many on holiday do have freedom.

Whilst no parent deserves to lose their child so horribly, if you care for your children you care for them, protect them.

This parent failed to do this.

 

 

Why take your child on holiday if you don't want to spend time with them?

Why was she not at school?

Parents are LEGALLY responsible for the care of their children - and it is possible for 15 year olds to have freedom without being all but abandoned!

 

Why has a 15 year old got a 25 year old boyfriend?

 

If she hadn't been killed had she a high chance of beoming another teenage mum?

 

When are we going to stop excusing feckless parents - when are we going to stop mopping up their mess?

 

 

Whilst no parent deserves to lose their child so horribly, if you care for your children you care for them, protect them.

This parent failed to do this.

Why take your child on holiday if you don't want to spend time with them?

Why was she not at school?

Parents are LEGALLY responsible for the care of their children - and it is possible for 15 year olds to have freedom without being all but abandoned!

 

Why has a 15 year old got a 25 year old boyfriend?

 

If she hadn't been killed had she a high chance of beoming another teenage mum?

 

When are we going to stop excusing feckless parents - when are we going to stop mopping up their mess?

 

We are old timers though ICR, in our day 15 year old girls would play with barbie and would play doctors and nurses and play with dolls and actually had a childhood

 

Todays generation are what 25 year olds were like in our day, everyone has to grow up so fast these days thanks largely to commercial pressures from advertisers, materialism, celebrity culture and the internet, todays generation have to be much more worldly and much more wise with society a lot more dangerous than it was in our day so just because this girl was 15 does not mean she was not very very mature as a person, if you are comparing her with our 15 year old generation then no she would't be she should still be playing with barbie but we live in a VERY different world now so I would not personally doubt her maturity, the small handful of 16-20 year olds I chat to online are more mature and responsible at that age than I was at 30

 

 

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I dunno what you put but am guessing you disagreed with me lol

 

I don't know whether this girl or her mum were mature or not I didn't know them but my point was that we should not automatically assume this girl was all giggly and immature and incapable of being on her own just because she was 15 in physical years

We are old timers though ICR, in our day 15 year old girls would play with barbie and would play doctors and nurses and play with dolls and actually had a childhood

 

Todays generation are what 25 year olds were like in our day, everyone has to grow up so fast these days thanks largely to commercial pressures from advertisers, materialism, celebrity culture and the internet, todays generation have to be much more worldly and much more wise with society a lot more dangerous than it was in our day so just because this girl was 15 does not mean she was not very very mature as a person, if you are comparing her with our 15 year old generation then no she would't be she should still be playing with barbie but we live in a VERY different world now so I would not personally doubt her maturity, the small handful of 16-20 year olds I chat to online are more mature and responsible at that age than I was at 30

 

 

I don't know about you Craig, but certainly wasn't playing doctors and nurses or with dolls at 15.

 

Media / internet / celebrities / materialism etc exposes kids to a wider world - it does not mean they are mature enough to cope with it.

 

If kids are so worly wise why do we have such a ridiculously high teenage pregnancy rate? Why do kids still give out personal info on facebook / bebo etc and meet random people from the net? Why do 14 year old girls post semi-naked photos of themselves on myspace and wonder why dirty old men add them?

 

Having knowledge is all very good - but having the life experience / common sense to cope in the world is a different matter.

 

.... and this girl sadly wasn't able to cope with the situation she found herself in.

 

 

 

 

I dunno what you put but am guessing you disagreed with me lol

 

( the * was me clicking post after typing 2 words :blush:)

Sorry but this looks like another dysfunctional family to me. With a feckless 'right-on' mammy in charge. What mother in her right mind would allow her 15 year old (still a child) daughter to stay behind in a foreign country with a 25 year old 'boyfriend' she had just recently met while mammy and the other 6 weans head off to the hills on a trip?

 

And her justification? 'Scarlett wouldn't come with us'. Oh well, that's ok then. Honest to god, if I had told my mother at 15 I 'didn't want to go' she'd have had me dragged onto that bus by the hair on my head. No discussion. As a sulky 15 year old I was always being forced to accompany my parents on daft trips when I would have rather stayed behind. But then again, my mum and dad saw their role as being my parents, not as being my 'best pals'.

 

 

 

 

As a side issue-

 

If as has been reported Mummy Hippy and all her brood are on benefits, exactly how did she manage to afford an extended holiday in Goa? I'm working. I can't afford to fly out to Goa? :unsure: :blink:

Sorry but this looks like another dysfunctional family to me. With a feckless 'right-on' mammy in charge. What mother in her right mind would allow her 15 year old (still a child) daughter to stay behind in a foreign country with a 25 year old 'boyfriend' she had just recently met while mammy and the other 6 weans head off to the hills on a trip?

 

And her justification? 'Scarlett wouldn't come with us'. Oh well, that's ok then. Honest to god, if I had told my mother at 15 I 'didn't want to go' she'd have had me dragged onto that bus by the hair on my head. No discussion. As a sulky 15 year old I was always being forced to accompany my parents on daft trips when I would have rather stayed behind. But then again, my mum and dad saw their role as being my parents, not as being my 'best pals'.

As a side issue-

 

If as has been reported Mummy Hippy and all her brood are on benefits, exactly how did she manage to afford an extended holiday in Goa? I'm working. I can't afford to fly out to Goa? :unsure: :blink:

 

Spot on Post Jupiter... Whether Scarlett "wanted" to go with them or not shouldn't even be the bloody issue.... She's a MINOR, therefore she is in the charge of her parents.... Seems to me that the "mother" was acting more like a best pal or a big sister rather than the parent she should have been acting like....

 

Frankly, there are too many people out there who just dont deserve to be parents, this stupid, hippy dippy bint is almost certainly one of them, at the end of the day, she got her daughter drugged, raped and killed by not acting like a parent, she put Scarlett into a dangerous position by being a 'friend' and not a bloody parent, and it cost the poor girl her life.. Something "Mama Hippy Bint" is gonna have to live with for the rest of her life.... Shame Scarlett cant live the rest of her life innit....? <_<

 

If it were up to me, the rest of her kids would be taken off her and put into care before they end up dead on a fukkin' mortician's slab as well..... <_<

 

Spot on Post Jupiter... Whether Scarlett "wanted" to go with them or not shouldn't even be the bloody issue.... She's a MINOR, therefore she is in the charge of her parents.... Seems to me that the "mother" was acting more like a best pal or a big sister rather than the parent she should have been acting like....

 

Frankly, there are too many people out there who just dont deserve to be parents, this stupid, hippy dippy bint is almost certainly one of them, at the end of the day, she got her daughter drugged, raped and killed by not acting like a parent, she put Scarlett into a dangerous position by being a 'friend' and not a bloody parent, and it cost the poor girl her life.. Something "Mama Hippy Bint" is gonna have to live with for the rest of her life.... Shame Scarlett cant live the rest of her life innit....? <_<

 

If it were up to me, the rest of her kids would be taken off her and put into care before they end up dead on a fukkin' mortician's slab as well..... <_<

 

neighbours say that those children of hers are well behaved, polite individuals.... dippy hippy mum or not if this is true then shes hardly a 'bad' mum... maybe she made 1 mistake that proved fatal to her daughter, but that could happen to anyone, anywhere at any time. she must have thought her daughter was in no danger... a poor judgement maybe.

I don't know about you Craig, but certainly wasn't playing doctors and nurses or with dolls at 15.

 

Media / internet / celebrities / materialism etc exposes kids to a wider world - it does not mean they are mature enough to cope with it.

 

If kids are so worly wise why do we have such a ridiculously high teenage pregnancy rate? Why do kids still give out personal info on facebook / bebo etc and meet random people from the net? Why do 14 year old girls post semi-naked photos of themselves on myspace and wonder why dirty old men add them?

 

Having knowledge is all very good - but having the life experience / common sense to cope in the world is a different matter.

 

.... and this girl sadly wasn't able to cope with the situation she found herself in.

 

Spot on Post ICR.. The facts are kids of 14/15 think they are mature, but they're not... Even women in their late-20s can be 'roofied' in a bar or a club, so an un-streetwise teenage girl with her head full of her mother's 'peace and love' Hippy cr@p really has no chance on her own in that sort of environment... Her mother clearly has a false idea of Goa - or else she was about 15-20 years too late to experience the place when it actually was a pretty safe place, when it was just students, 'arty-types', crusties and backpackers going there as opposed to the utter vermin that pollute the place now....

 

My heart truly breaks for this poor lass, she was an innocent, trusting girl who trusted the wrong people who used her and threw her away like garbage. Her "mother" disgusts me, she should've been there, simple as, providing some sort of guidance or support... A 15 year old girl doesn't know any better, a so-called "mature" woman in her late 30s (early 40s?? Not sure how old the mother is tbh...) really should....