It`s a good show. So far they hae featured 35 vids, in 2 hours & 15 mins :yahoo: Although I got lost at 23, for some reason. Did I miss it? Or was it missed? :o

I don`t know, I only glanced! From the chart I saw, I think it was Pendulum. Should`ve followed Black Kids, and was before Cahill. From memory I think that Wiley, wasn`t in the top 5 on there, but a little further down the top ten.

I don`t know, I only glanced! From the chart I saw, I think it was Pendulum. Should`ve followed Black Kids, and was before Cahill. From memory I think that Wiley, wasn`t in the top 5 on there, but a little further down the top ten.

Thanks :D They are nearly in the top ten now. At this rate the show, will be over by 6.30! I think this should be on Sundays, it would be better that the radio c**p chart shows :puke2:

Dave, would I be right in saying the Chart Show top 40, is more or less an equivalent to the lamemted MRIB chart? Is it a coincidence, that one stopped, and then the Chart Show one, popped up?

Dave, would I be right in saying the Chart Show top 40, is more or less an equivalent to the lamemted MRIB chart? Is it a coincidence, that one stopped, and then the Chart Show one, popped up?

It is equivalent to a chart, that used to appear in the music paper Sounds, but it`s not MRIB anymore. It more matches the chart without downloads that I put up on Wednesday after 5pm. Although, if a song is not airplayed on Chart Show tv, the song is not included on the show, so songs below it go up a position.

I meant to ask this last week and forgot - up to 2002 there used to be a music programme overnight every night on Sky One called Long Play (I think that was its name - it was broadcast from about midnight to 6am). It was all videos and used to feature a top 20 singles chart that didn't match the official chart. Do you have any idea who compiled this chart? I'm wondering if this was a MRIB chart?

I meant to ask this last week and forgot - up to 2002 there used to be a music programme overnight every night on Sky One called Long Play (I think that was its name - it was broadcast from about midnight to 6am). It was all videos and used to feature a top 20 singles chart that didn't match the official chart. Do you have any idea who compiled this chart? I'm wondering if this was a MRIB chart?

Yes Robbie, it was an MRIB top 20. Sky had the contract, after ILR lost it. After 2003, the EMAP radio group had it for the Smash Hits Chart. After Autumn 2006 MSN had it, then this month, it was the end of an era, exactly 30 years, after the Record Business ILR chart, with their number one from Gerry Rafferty, "Baker Street".

thanks Dave. Shame to see the MRIB chart go though. Especially as it was the music charts that were the foundations of MRIB, it's the very charts they have now ended. I would have thought they could have continued compiling an album chart but they must have decided it wasn't worth it.

 

Another thing I've always wondered - as Millward Brown receive returns from just about every retailer that sells music, MRIB must have have duplicated returns from some of the same stores. How many stores contributed sales information to MRIB? Or did Millward Brown provide sales information to MRIB too (perhaps from a subset of stores)? Again, having two chart compilers accessing the same raw data is a duplication. A bit like MediaBase (who do Hits Daily Double) and Nielsen Soundscan (Billboard) in the US - the former must duplicate some stores that provide sales data to the latter.

 

Cheers for the charts by the way!

thanks Dave. Shame to see the MRIB chart go though. Especially as it was the music charts that were the foundations of MRIB, it's the very charts they have now ended. I would have thought they could have continued compiling an album chart but they must have decided it wasn't worth it.

 

Another thing I've always wondered - as Millward Brown receive returns from just about every retailer that sells music, MRIB must have have duplicated returns from some of the same stores. How many stores contributed sales information to MRIB? Or did Millward Brown provide sales information to MRIB too (perhaps from a subset of stores)? Again, having two chart compilers accessing the same raw data is a duplication. A bit like MediaBase (who do Hits Daily Double) and Nielsen Soundscan (Billboard) in the US - the former must duplicate some stores that provide sales data to the latter.

 

Cheers for the charts by the way!

Well you know MRIB was more or less founded by the late Barry Lazell, out of the trade paper Record Business research? With Software of some 200 programmes split between charts of Albums/Singles/Video and specialist other charts. It originally had files of 600 current singles, and 700 albums....catalogue nos, full label details, company, distributor, publisher, writer, and price all included. Including new release charts, airplay and sales charts. Identification though of tracks etc were keyed by the first 5 characters, of artist and title rather than catalogue number. They employed tools of computers, expert researchers, and the old telephone! Sales data was analysed by region, and outlet type. Originally only 300 stores were used, but this increased as time went on. They always polled the exact same stores every week, and refused to rotate (not liking inconsistency). As the BMRB used too, for the 70s. The team of MRIB also did work for Cashbox in the US. They also did all their own research, with companies such as ILR subscribing to it.

 

The full singles chart was a top 120, with sales Fri - Thurs, being combined wit 5% airplay, which could push new material 4/5 positions higher combined with the sales, in the top 30, and up to 20 spots in the 31 - 120. If a record dropped more than 2 weeks running in the 101 - 120 positions, then they called it "dead product", and the record was dropped. Originally available from 11am, on Fridays, then later for the Network Chart.

 

The album chart carried sales from Thurs - Weds. There was no airplay in the albums of course, lately no downloads included either.

 

Sunday People carried on printing the top tens until, last November when they published a chart that only feature downloads, if a physical was available. The top 20s, were on MSN, until the very end. I would suspect there were redundancies, from the company, following the decision. I have noticed that Blockbuster, doesn`t take their dvd chart, anymore. Although, that is basically the only chart that MRIB, do now, along with entertainment, and mobile info.

 

I could never understand how ILR did not continue with it in 1993, instead of the 50/50 sales/airplay 40 -11 Hit40uk etc. I find it rather incomprehensible. What do you reckon? Why do more people listen to Hit40?