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Political Correctness rearing its ugly head again, I don't doubt that he is a good actor but a black Dr Who just seems to me to be the BBC being politically correct, am not being racist many of my favourite actors are black but I think it is because he is black that he got it

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Political Correctness rearing its ugly head again, I don't doubt that he is a good actor but a black Dr Who just seems to me to be the BBC being politically correct, am not being racist many of my favourite actors are black but I think it is because he is black that he got it

 

oh no....

 

i agree with craig.

I think he'd be quite good I really like him in survivors
I have no idea who Patterson Joseph is. I wanted it to be that guy :wub: :lol:
And I've just googled him and it's the guy I thought it might be. I saw him in Jekyll with James Nesbitt, I didn't like him at ALL.

There's no way of knowing it's political correctness... have you not considered that surely a good fifth or more of those who auditioned would've been black, asian or any other minority - he may simply have been the best actor who auditioned. To claim it IS political correctness is to brush that possibility aside, which IS to be racist.

There's no way of knowing it's political correctness... have you not considered that surely a good fifth or more of those who auditioned would've been black, asian or any other minority - he may simply have been the best actor who auditioned. To claim it IS political correctness is to brush that possibility aside, which IS to be racist.

 

Dr Who is one of those characters that should stay white, to me it is like having a black Bond, ever since Dr Who started over 40 years ago Dr Who has been a white man and generations have grown up with a white Dr Who and that is the way it should remain, could you imagine a black Bond ?

 

That is not being racist

Dr Who is one of those characters that should stay white, to me it is like having a black Bond, ever since Dr Who started over 40 years ago Dr Who has been a white man and generations have grown up with a white Dr Who and that is the way it should remain, could you imagine a black Bond ?

 

That is not being racist

 

spot on craig.. bloody hell, im agreeing with you too much recently, cant you go off on a thatcherite rant again?...:lol:

 

 

besides... can you imagine the uproar if a legendary black/ethnic person was portrayed by a white man?... could sylvester stalone be awarded the role on muhamed ali if there was a film made about him?
Dr Who is one of those characters that should stay white, to me it is like having a black Bond, ever since Dr Who started over 40 years ago Dr Who has been a white man and generations have grown up with a white Dr Who and that is the way it should remain, could you imagine a black Bond ?

 

That is not being racist

Of course it's being bloody racist! But then I'm not surprised, you always are.

 

Dr Who ISN'T a man, that is the WHOLE POINT. He is not human, he can REGENERATE. If his face, height, voice and personality can all change entirely with one regeneration, as happens, why shouldn't his skin colour change?!

Dr Who is one of those characters that should stay white, to me it is like having a black Bond, ever since Dr Who started over 40 years ago Dr Who has been a white man and generations have grown up with a white Dr Who and that is the way it should remain, could you imagine a black Bond ?

 

That is not being racist

 

How exactly is that NOT racist? Thought i expect that from YOU.

 

besides... can you imagine the uproar if a legendary black/ethnic person was portrayed by a white man?... could sylvester stalone be awarded the role on muhamed ali if there was a film made about him?

 

ummm, mate, muhammed ali is a REAL PERSON who in REAL LIFE was not white... i think it's completley f***kin different, given that the doctor isnt REAL, eh is a timelord who regenerates.... why the fukk couldnt he become black? ;/

I don't think there's any reason why the Doctor should turn black. Okay this wouldn't have happened 40 years ago, but times change.

 

Surely it's about the best man for the job anyway? I think Patterson Joseph would make a really good doctor. Moffat's going to go for a much darker tone to his shows, and Joseph is exactly the sort of actor who'd be good at playing this role. He'll be certainly more like Eccelston than Tennant that's for sure...

As usual I completely disagree with Craig's opinion here. Patterson Joseph is a great, upcoming actor and the very nature of Dr Who being a shapeshifter means there's absolutely no reason why he can't be black...or female...or an animal He could take the form of a gelatinous blob if the scriptwriters wanted to.
Moffat's going to go for a much darker tone to his shows

 

no pun intended there i hope :kink:

the very nature of Dr Who being a shapeshifter means there's absolutely no reason why he can't be black...or female...or an animal He could take the form of a gelatinous blob if the scriptwriters wanted to.

 

exactly! which is why its such a stupid idea!

 

if it aint broke, dont fix it

 

this isnt about race, its about the idiotic bbc pc correctness brigade who yet again are doing things 'on the behalf of ethnic minorities' . it isnt any race or ethnicity thats wrong but them pc brigade speaking on their behalf.

 

viewing figures WILL slump.

As someone who's a huge fan of new who, I'll be gutted if they announce he'll be the next Doctor. Saw Christopher Eccleston and David Tennant in other dramas before they got the part and thought they were great. Not liking him in Survivors and his part in a previous Doctor Who episode wasn't very good.

 

Not going to abandon the show though. I'll give him a chance and I might like the companion. I think it's a huge risk though, not only an almost completely new production team but a new Doctor with what will probably be new companions. Also, without trying to sound racist, which I must add I am not, the addition of the Doctor then being black could make the whole change-over even worse. People are going to miss David Tennant in the role a hell of a lot and the fact is, there are people that will switch off because of such a huge change as that. It'll obviously get the program a lot of promotion through the papers etc though which could even it up for his first few episodes, at least.

 

It'll be a shame if the next doctor doesn't appeal to the viewers as much as David Tennant did or Christopher Eccleston and a lot of people stopped tuning in. Steven Moffat is a fantastic writer and is going to bring a lot of amazing stories.

I thought he was in Dr Who before... who did he play?
exactly! which is why its such a stupid idea!

 

if it aint broke, dont fix it

 

this isnt about race, its about the idiotic bbc pc correctness brigade who yet again are doing things 'on the behalf of ethnic minorities' . it isnt any race or ethnicity thats wrong but them pc brigade speaking on their behalf.

 

viewing figures WILL slump.

 

I'm sorry mate, but you and Craig are totally wrongheaded on this... There is absolutely NO REASON AT ALL for The Doc to not change into a black guy, or Asian or a female, or, heck, even JACKIE CHAN or whatever :lol: :lol: (The Doctor is a BLOODY ALIEN SHAPE-SHIFTER FFS :lol: :lol: :lol: ), and your comparison to Mohammed Ali, is a bloody stupid one... The Doctor DOES NOT EXIST in reality, Mohammed Ali is a real person.... You perhaps could have gotten away with a comparison to Kunta Kinte (from the book, TV series, "Roots"), but again, white slaves in the Southern US :lol: , nah, wouldn't work really.... Doctor Who has no such basis in reality at all, it is SCIENCE FICTION mate, so no reason to keep him to one particular race or ethncity or even gender, just "because that's the way it always has been", blah, blah, bollocks, that's just being bloody minded and stupid....

 

Personally, I'm not sure about the bloke they actually picked (I've not seen him in much tbh, only really Green Wing and Jekyll, and I wasn't entirely convinced by him in the latter I have to say, his American accent was just...Odd...), but the idea itself isn't really so barmy, maybe just pick a better, more well-known black actor.. If the producers cast someone like Morgan Freeman, Forrest Whittaker or Sam Jackson in the role, quite the opposite to your rather foolish assumption that viewing figures would "plummet", viewing figures would do entirely the OPPOSITE, they would go through the roof; so dont try to make out that people on a principle wouldn't watch a black actor play The Doctor, because that is just pure rubbish. My only doubts is whether they chose the right black actor to play the part, I reckon the guy who used to play Danny in Spooks (David Oyelowo) would've been a better choice, or perhaps Colin Salmon who has already been in Dr Who (he played Dr Moon) as well as being in loads of films and TV shows....

 

They talked about a Female Doctor not so long ago, which would've been well cool actually... And given her role in the Terminator series (as a T1000), perhaps a spot for Shirley Manson....? If not as The Doctor, I reckon she might make a pretty good Companion tbh....

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