This is my favourite board on Buzzjack, but in the last week there've been posts about

 

Bon Jovi (three or four of them)

Aerosmith

 

etc etc

 

and plenty others

 

I don't grudge these bands being talked about, but they're neither indie nor alternative rock...in fact you probably couldn't get further away. Bon Jovi and Aerosmith gigs are full of the same people who go to Westlife gigs - fact!

 

Can someone create a board for them? Please?

Edited June 15, 200619 yr by richie

This is my favourite board on Buzzjack, but in the last week there've been posts about

 

Bon Jovi (three or four of them)

Aerosmith

 

etc etc

 

and plenty others

 

I don't grudge these bands being talked about, but they're neither indie nor alternative rock...in fact you probably couldn't get further away. Bon Jovi and Aerosmith gigs are full of the same people who go to Westlife gigs - fact!

 

Can someone create a board for them? Please?

 

yeah think the problem it that alt.rock is such an american term and has confused people. they think it just meens rock. this is wrong the title of the forum should be indie and alternative music!!!

 

think the only relevance to my life that areosmith has is this:

 

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:wub: B) :wub: B) :wub: :heart: :heart: :yahoo: :cheer: :yahoo: :cheer: :arrr:

 

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/9c/Steven_Tyler.jpg

 

and steven tyler was in be cool (it wasnt :lol:)

 

FOR YOUR INFORMATION

 

Fierce Panda Records

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Fierce Panda Records is a London, England based independent record label.

 

They had their first release in February of 1994. That year they produced a small amount of releases by now famous artists such as Ash, The Bluetones, Baby Bird and Supergrass . Fierce Panda is also credited with releases by Coldplay , Seafood, Art Brut, Embrace , Kenickie, Keane , Death Cab for Cutie, The Polyphonic Spree and Boy Kill Boy .

 

In the autumn of 1997 Fierce Panda formed the sub-label Rabid Badger Records to release more Dance oriented music, and in spring 1998 the sub-label Livid Meerkat to put out post-rock music.

 

Fierce Panda is especially known for compilation albums and EPs, whose titles are mainly puns, often in-jokes.

Bon Jovi and Aerosmith gigs are full of the same people who go to Westlife gigs - fact!

 

haha! don't know if i'd go that far - but yes - the two genre's should have different boards...

 

haha! don't know if i'd go that far - but yes - the two genre's should have different boards...

 

or in the metal area!!

 

 

 

The metal area's more appropriate than this one, but I know they wouldn't want them either.

Well yes I'd GLADLY move them to Pop or Retro but people in the Pop Forum would complain saying it's Rock ...

They would have sent the Bon Jovi ones straight back if I moved them let me tell you :lol: Aerosmith however I've just noticed and moved to the more appropriate Retro Lounge ^_^ I don't think you can really call Bon Jovi retro but as much as I don't like them I personally feel they're most suitable to this forum if any of them. (the Pop mods would probably move it back here too :lol: )

I TOTALLY, TOTALLY disagree. This is the LAST forum I would put them in. Just stick em in Retro I reckon...cos does it mean if Aerosmith knock out another film soundtrack tomorrow they'll be out of retro and back in here too?

They would have sent the Bon Jovi ones straight back if I moved them let me tell you :lol: Aerosmith however I've just noticed and moved to the more appropriate Retro Lounge ^_^ I don't think you can really call Bon Jovi retro but as much as I don't like them I personally feel they're most suitable to this forum if any of them. (the Pop mods would probably move it back here too :lol: )

 

PLEASE READ!!!

 

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(from left to right: David Bryan, Richie Sambora, Jon Bon Jovi and Tico Torres)

Origin: New Jersey

Years active 1983–present

Genre(s):

Hard Rock

Hair Metal

Label(s) Island Records

Members

Jon Bon Jovi

Richie Sambora

David Bryan

Tico Torres

Hugh McDonald

Past members Alec John Such

Website(s) www.bonjovi.com

Bon Jovi is an American rock music band from New Jersey. Fronted by lead singer and namesake Jon Bon Jovi, the group originally achieved large-scale success in the 1980s as a hair metal band. However, Bon Jovi has proved far more durable than most groups so labeled, blending elements of hard rock, heartland rock, and the "MTV Unplugged" style together to sustain a creative and commercially successful career well into the 2000s.

 

Bon Jovi has sold more than 33 million albums in the United States, and over 100,000,000 albums worldwide, and has played live concerts in major cities in Asia, Europe, Australia, Canada, and South America, in addition to a large number of cities in the U.S.

 

Formation

Lead singer Jon Bon Jovi (John Francis Bongiovi) began to play piano and guitar at thirteen, learning Elton John songs. At that same age, Bon Jovi founded his first band, called Raze. Jon enrolled in St. Joseph's Highschool in Metuchen, NJ originally, but was asked to leave before entering his sophomore year for an unknown violation. He went on to attend Sayreville War Memorial High School. At sixteen Bon Jovi met David Bryan (David Bryan Rashbaum) in high school (Sayreville War Memorial High School ) and founded an R&B cover band with him named Atlantic City Expressway. They played at New Jersey clubs, even though they were minors. Still in his teens, Bon Jovi played in the band John Bongiovi and the Wild Ones, playing New Jersey clubs like the Fast Lane and opening for known acts in the area.

 

By the summer of 1982, out of school and working part-time - including in a shoe store - Jon finally got a job at the Power Station Studios, a Manhattan recording facility where his cousin, Tony Bongiovi, was the co-owner. Bon Jovi made several demos (including one produced by Billy Squier) and sent them out to many record companies - but failed to make an impact.

 

At nineteen, Bon Jovi had his first recording experience, singing the song "R2-D2 We Wish You a Merry Christmas" by Meco Monardo and Daniel Oriolo on a Star Wars Christmas album, Christmas in the Stars, produced by Tony Bongiovi at the Power Station and released on the RSO label.

 

In 1983, local radio station WAPP 103.5FM "The Apple" had a contest, held in conjunction with St. John's University, to search for the best unsigned band. Bon Jovi used studio musicians to play on the track "Runaway" (which was written in 1980). After it won the contest, it became an instant hit in the summer of 1983. The studio musicians who helped Jon Bon Jovi to record "Runaway" were known as "The All Star Review" and they were Tim Pierce (guitar), Roy Bittan (keyboards), Frankie LaRocka (drums) and Hugh McDonald (bass).

 

Bon Jovi now desperately needed a band. The soon-to-be-members of the band had crossed paths in their earlier days, but the current lineup didn't come together until March of 1983. Bon Jovi gave Dave Bryan a call, who in turn called Alec John Such and Tico Torres.

 

A succession of guitarists followed, until Richie Sambora signed on. Such talked Bon Jovi into letting Sambora show what he could do, and Bon Jovi loved it. Before joining Bon Jovi, Sambora had toured with Joe Cocker, played with a group called Mercy and had just been called up to audition for KISS. He also played on the album Lessons with the band Message, which was re-released on CD through Long Island Records in 1995. Message was originally signed to Led Zeppelin's Swan Song label, although an album was never released through them.

 

Tico Torres was also an experienced musician, having recorded with Miles Davis and playing live with The Marvelettes and Chuck Berry. He had played on twenty-six records and had recently recorded with Frankie and the Knockouts (a Jersey band with hit singles in the early 1980s).

 

David Bryan was a natural recruit. He had quit the band he and Bon Jovi founded while in college, then quit college to attend Juilliard School, the prestigious New York music school.

 

[edit]

1980s

Bon Jovi was now a band, and when they opened for the band Scandal, they caught the attention of record exec Derek Shulman, who signed them to PolyGram.

 

 

With the help of their new manager Doc McGhee, the band's debut album, Bon Jovi, was released on January 21, 1984. The album went gold in the US (sales of over 500,000) and was also released in the UK. The group found themselves opening for ZZ Top at the Madison Square Garden (before their first album had been released), and for Scorpions and Kiss in Europe. They also made an appearance on American Bandstand.

 

In 1985 Bon Jovi's second album 7800° Fahrenheit was released, but the response was poor. The leading British metal magazine Kerrang!, who had been very positive about the debut record, called the album "a pale imitation of the Bon Jovi we have got to know and learned to love." Jon Bon Jovi himself later said it could have and should have been a better disc.

 

Their third album, Slippery When Wet, shot the band to superstardom around the world with hits such as "You Give Love a Bad Name", "Livin' On A Prayer", and "Wanted Dead or Alive". Bon Jovi has said the album was named after the ubiquitous highway warning signs, but Bryan has said the following about the album's title: "During the recording of the record we frequently wound up in a striptease club where incredibly good looking girls were putting water and soap on each other. They became so slippery because of that, that you couldn't hold on to them even if you wanted to really bad. 'Slippery when wet!' one of us yelled out and the rest of us immediately knew: that had to be the title of the new album! Originally we were going to put a picture of some huge breasts, the really big ones, on the cover; but when the PMRC (a moral board under command of Tipper Gore, wife of former Vice President of the United States Al Gore) found out we were in big trouble. So we made it into a very decent cover."

 

The album has sold in excess of 12 million copies since its release in late 1986. On the tour that followed, singer Bon Jovi began having vocal difficulties. The extremely high notes and unrelenting schedule threatened to damage his voice permanently. With the help of a vocal coach, he made it through the tour. Bon Jovi has tended to sing slightly lower pitches since then.

 

The next album from Bon Jovi was New Jersey released in 1988. The album was recorded very shortly after the tour for Slippery because the band wanted to prove that they were not just a one hit wonder. The resulting album is a fan favorite, with hit songs such as "Bad Medicine" and "Lay Your Hands On Me" which are still nightly stalwarts in their live repertoire. However, New Jersey almost led to the end of the band as they went straight back out on the road so soon after the heavy touring for their previous album. This constant living on the road almost destroyed the strong bond between Jon Bon Jovi and Sambora. The band, however, made it through and took a healthy break before their next studio effort.

 

[edit]

1990s

Between 1990 and 1992 the band members went their separate ways for a while to refocus before writing and recording their next album. This time off also helped them determine where would Bon Jovi fit in within the rapidly changing music scene upon their return. Jon Bon Jovi recorded a solo album, a soundtrack to the movie "Young Guns II" (in which he also appeared for less than a second), more commonly known as "Blaze of Glory". Album featured some high profile guests - Elton John, Aldo Nova, Little Richard and Jeff Beck among others. The album faired well commercialy and recieved very positive reviews. The title track, "Blaze of Glory", earned Jon a Academy Award nomination for Best Song, although he didn't go home a winner that night. That same year however, "Blaze of Glory" was awarded a Golden Globe.

 

Meanwhile, Sambora also released a solo album entitled Stranger in This Town, in 1991. The album had a predominant blues-influence to it, and although it was received well by many critics and guitar affectionados, it did not fare too well commercially. Eric Clapton was a guest guitarist on song "Mr. Bluesman". David Bryan recorded a soundtrack for the horror movie The Netherworld, which was the brighter part of that year after he was hospitalized with an illness due to a South American parasite. Torres avoided music and the music business altogether and stayed home. Such took a fall off of his motorcycle which injured his bass-playing hand, forcing him to develop a whole new way to hold and play his instrument.

 

The band returned with the album Keep the Faith in 1992. The album featured a more mature sound and lyrical content than any of their previous efforts. Critics and fans alike were pleasantly surprised and the album became a moderate hit amidst the rise of grunge. It's most recognisable tunes were the hit singles "Bed of Roses", "Keep the Faith" and "In These Arms" but some other songs on the album were released as singles in other parts of the world, maintly the fan favorite epic "Dry County" and the hooky "I Believe", both considered to be some of band's best work.

 

In 1994, Bon Jovi released a "greatest hits" album entitled Cross Road, which also contained two new tracks: the hit singles "Always" and "Someday I'll Be Saturday Night", as well as a new, updated rendition of "Livin' on a Prayer" entitled "Prayer '94" and available only on the US version. The song "Always" was originally written for a soundtrack to the film [[Romeo Is Bleeding]], but after seing (and disliking) the movie, band decided not to lend the song to the producers and instead, release it on "Cross Road". The video for "Always" featured Keri Russell, popular American actress known for her role in the TV show Felicity and actor Jack Noseworthy, best known for his role in the 2000 film U-571. The song peaked at #4 on the US charts and at #1 in countried across Europe, Asia and in Australia.

 

Shortly after "Cross Road", Alec John Such decided to leave the band. Although to this day there is still speculation on if he was fired or left on his own accord, Jon has made it public that there has been contact between him and other band members recently. Alec even joined the band on stage for one song (Wanted Dead or Alive) during their "homecoming" show at the Giants Stadium in 2001. While he has not been officially replaced, Hugh McDonald has handled studio and live bass duties since then. Jon Bon Jovi said, regarding the departure of Such: "Of course it hurts. But I learned to accept and respect it. The fact that I'm a workaholic, studio in, studio out, stage on, stage off, want to be dealing with music day and night, doesn't mean everyone else has to adjust to that pace. Alec wanted to quit for a while now so it didn't come as a complete surprise."

 

With the 1995 album These Days, Bon Jovi took the mature rock sound they had developed on Keep the Faith further. The record as a whole was darker and more downbeat than the usual Bon Jovi fare, and as a result, despite critical kudos, it spun off only one hit single in the US, "This Ain't A Love Song" and it sold "only" a little over a million records. Nevertheless, the other tracks proved sufficiently popular to garner various successful European singles. In 1996, Jon Bon Jovi claimed in an interview with the German Bravo magazine that, due to the overwhelming success of the These Days Tour, the album had sold in excess of 20 million copies worldwide. It was on the These Days Tour, that Bon Jovi played at Wembley Stadium in 1995 on a sell-out three night's running concert. It is widely considered to be their best rock concert, featuring such hits as "Livin' On A Prayer", "Keep the Faith", an excellent, heart-felt rendition of "Always", and showcasing new songs from These Days. It is particularly memorable because it is the same weekend that the album got to No. 1 in the UK charts. This tour date can be viewed on video, and has been re-issued on DVD, both titled Live From London.

 

By 1996, Bon Jovi had established them selves as a "force" in music industry, proving much more durable (and succesfull) than most of their 80's glam peers. At the end of the These Days tour, the band once again decided to take a break and pursue other interests. Tico used the opportunity further pursue his passion for painting while David started writing and composing various musicals. Richie used his time off to write and record his second solo album, entitled Undiscovered Soul, released in 1998.

 

Jon briefly stayed away from music and set his sights for Hollywood. He landed lead roles in movies Little City and The Leading Man, and supporting roles in Moonlight and Valentino, Homegrown and U-571 among others. While he was free between filming different movies, Jon wrote what was gonna become his second solo album, 1997's Destination Anywhere. The album recieved very positive reviews and was a success across Europe. It was rumored that the record company was persuing Jon to name the record "These Days, Part 2", since the album was somewhat of a moody progression from "These Days". However, most fans will agree that "Destination Anywhere" was a departure from the signature Bon Jovi brand of rock music. A short movie of the same name was recorded right around the record's release, based entirely on the songs from the record and starring Jon Bon Jovi, Demi Moore, Kevin Bacon and Whoopy Goldberg among others. Dave Stewart of Eurythmics played guitar on the record. :puke2: :puke2: :puke2:

 

Bon Jovi reunited in 1999 to record the song "Real Life" for the movie EdTV. David Bryan didn't make it to the filming of the video for the song due to a recent hand injury sustained in a home improvement mishap, so the band used a cardboard cutout of him for the shoot.

 

[edit]

2000s

After a nearly three-year hiatus during which several band members worked on independent projects, Bon Jovi regrouped in 1999 to begin work on their next studio album. Their 2000 release, Crush, enjoyed overwhelming success both in the US and overseas, thanks in part to the smash-hit single "It's My Life", co-written by famous Swedish producer Max Martin. Crush, which also produced such hits as "Say It Isn't So" and "Thank You for Loving Me", soon became the band's most successful studio album since Keep the Faith, and helped introduce Bon Jovi to a new, younger fan base. The Crush Tour, which began that summer, originally encompassed only 60 or so shows and was extended due to Bon Jovi's newfound popularity, with the band remaining on tour through mid-2001. While on tour, Bon Jovi released a collection of live performances from throughout their career in an album entitled, One Wild Night: Live 1985-2001.

 

Shortly after the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the band performed as part of the historic star-studded The Concert for New York City benefit concert for victims and their families. They performed an acoustic medley of "Livin' on a Prayer" and "Wanted Dead or Alive" with a stirring finale of "It's My Life". They also performed the song "America".

 

In late 2002, Bounce, the band's follow-up to Crush, hit stores. Though Bounce did not enjoy quite the level of success of its predecessor, the album did produce the hit singles, "Everyday" and "Misunderstood". The band went on a U.S. tour for this album, during which they made history as the last band to play Veterans Stadium in Philidelphia before it was torn down. The band also released a promotional album through Target. The album featured eight demo and live tracks.

 

Following the Bounce Tour, which wrapped up in August 2003, Bon Jovi embarked on what would become a unique and ambitious project. Originally intending to produce an album consisting of live acoustic performances of various songs, the band ended up rewriting, re-recording and reinventing 12 of their biggest hits in a new and much different light. This Left Feels Right was released in November 2003, with the title referring to the "left turn" of sorts that the band took in redoing the songs heard on this record.

 

The following year the band released a box set entitled 100,000,000 Bon Jovi Fans Can't Be Wrong, the title an homage to Elvis Presley's 50,000,000 Elvis Fans Can't Be Wrong. The set consisted of four CDs packed with 38 unreleased and 12 rare tracks, as well as a DVD. The box set marked the sales of 100 million Bon Jovi albums and also commemorated the 20th anniversary of the release of the band's first record in 1984. In November 2004 Bon Jovi was honored with the award for Merit at the American Music Awards.

 

Bon Jovi participated in Live 8 on July 2, 2005. A new song, "Have a Nice Day", was debuted at the event, alongside the classics, "Livin' on a Prayer" and "It's My Life".

 

On August 20th, 2005 Bon Jovi headlined Miller Brewing Co.'s Big Brew-Ha, celebrating its 150th anniversary. The free stadium concert at Miller Park in Milwaukee included one preview song from the band's forthcoming album.

 

In September 2005 Bon Jovi was honored with the Diamond Award at the World Music Awards for selling 100 million albums.

 

Bon Jovi's long-awaited new album, Have a Nice Day, was released on September 20th, 2005 (U.S.), followed by an international tour which kicked off in early November. The album topped the charts around the world, landing on the number two spot on Billboards the first week of sales. Bon Jovi had a career-best first week, selling over 202,000 albums. "Have a Nice Day" was the first single off the new album, and debuted at radio worldwide on July 18, 2005. The second single, "Who Says You Can't Go Home", has since debuted as well, including a duet version with country singer Jennifer Nettles of the band Sugarland. In May of 2006, Bon Jovi made history becoming the first Rock & Roll Band to have a #1 hit on Billboard's Hot Country Chart. The third single off the album is entitled "Welcome to Wherever You Are".

 

Soon after the release of Have A Nice Day, the band started gearing up for a new 2005/2006-world tour. This tour - being shorter than previous ones with only seventy-five shows - brings the band to numerous stages and arenas throughout the world. Originally it was planned for them to be the first act to perform at the new Wembley Stadium, however, the construction company Multiplex who are behind the stadium's rebuilding project have said that the stadium will not be ready until 2007. The concert has therefore been moved to to the Milton Keynes National Bowl with the same performance dates. 1 2 Following dates in Japan and Europe, Bon Jovi will return to the US in the summer of 2006 for a few stadium shows, including 3 shows in the band's native New Jersey at Giants Stadium as well as in Boston, Pittsburgh, and Chicago.

 

On January 21, 2006 in Hamilton, Ontario, Bon Jovi's plane overshot and skidded off the runway after a show in Buffalo; none of the band members were harmed.

 

On February 7, 2006 a promotional album, Live from the Have a Nice Day Tour, was released through Wal-Mart. It contains six live tracks recorded in December 2005 in Boston.

 

On February 19, 2006, Bon Jovi performed as the headlining act prior to Nascar's Daytona 500. The band performed "It's My Life" and their two new singles "Have a Nice Day" and "Who Says You Can't Go Home", the latter with Jennifer Nettles. The country version of this song would hit #1 on the Country Billboard Charts on May 6, 2006.

 

On May 13, 2006, Bon Jovi kicked off their European leg of the Have A Nice Day tour in Dusseldorf, Germany. During the encore they played the 10 minute epic Dry County, from 1992's Keep The Faith, for the first time in ten years, much to the delight of their adoring fans.

But considering it's about a concert they're doing NOW and a single they have out NOW I think it might be best to leave them here. :unsure: As much as I think the Pop forum is more appropriate for them myself but as I said it might be moved back here because they have guitars. -_-

It's My Life (Bon Jovi song)

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"It's My Life" is Bon Jovi's first single off of the album Crush. Their first single in five years, "It's My Life" was released on May 23, 2000. It was written by Jon Bon Jovi, Richie Sambora, and Max Martin.

 

"It's My Life" became the most successful Bon Jovi single, hitting #1 across many countries and most importantly, becoming a symbol of band's longevity as they prevailed through many different changes in the mainstream rock scene with admirable success. It was credited with reviving their career after they came off a five year break, during which they each pursued individual solo careers. It was also credited with introducing the veteran band to an entirely new, younger audience.

 

This song was co-written by Max Martin who also wrote [/u] Backstreet Boys' Larger Than Life (1999).[/u] Structural similarities between the two songs are apparent.

 

 

HARD ROCK

 

Hard rock is a form of rock and roll music which finds its closest roots in early 1960s garage rock and psychedelic rock. It is typified by a heavy use of distorted electric guitar, bass guitar and drums. The term "hard rock" is often used as an umbrella term for genres such as punk, grunge, industrial rock and heavy metal, in order to distinguish them from softer, more radio friendly pop rock music.

 

Characteristics

Hard rock is a variation of rock and roll and is strongly influenced by blues music; in fact, the most frequently used scale in hard rock is the pentatonic, which is a typical blues scale. However, unlike traditional rock and roll, which takes elements of the "old" blues, hard rock borrows elements of the so-called British blues, a style of blues played with more modern instruments such as electric guitars, drums and electric bass.

 

The term hard rock is often applied to many styles of rock, their only common feature being that they deviate from pop rock, though this is generally incorrect. Two such examples are punk rock and grunge. Punk rock uses a faster tempo and fewer riffs (often using as power chords, pioneered by Link Wray). Grunge can be classified as being much more extreme than hard rock.

 

The predominant instrument in hard rock is the electric guitar. Virtuoso guitarists are very prevalent in hard rock, examples of which include Jimmy Page of Led Zeppelin, Ritchie Blackmore of Deep Purple and Rainbow, and Eddie Van Halen of Van Halen. Drums are also a basis of hard rock because they sustain the rhythm of the music, and create an energetic drive that keeps the music flowing. Some famous hard rock drummers include John Bonham of Led Zeppelin, Keith Moon of The Who, Neil Peart of Rush, and Lars Ulrich of Metallica.

 

 

Hard Rock or Heavy Metal?

 

During the 1970s hard rock spawned a new genre of music, known as heavy metal. This genre has created a controversial topic that appears when discussing 1970s hard rock groups. The debates are often centred around whether the bands are "hard rock or heavy metal groups".

 

The two genres have some crossover for example; the pioneers of heavy metal, such as Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, and Queen[1] are often considered both "Heavy Metal" and "Hard Rock"... whereas, bands such as AC/DC, Aerosmith and Kiss, are normally referred to as just "Hard Rock" and not "Heavy Metal".

 

To further the confusion, the most popular heavy metal subgenre of the 1980s; Glam metal, was known to take influence from both the pioneering heavy metal acts and other Hard rock groups, such as Kiss, AC/DC and Aerosmith amongst other things. Both Kiss and Aerosmith subsequently went on to dabble in Glam metal stylings.

 

History

Early days (1960s)

One of the major influences in hard rock is undoubtedly Blues music, especially that brand of blues that met rock and roll in the 1960s: it is often called British blues, because this meeting happened in United Kingdom.

 

 

British rockers like The Rolling Stones, The Yardbirds, The Who and The Kinks modified rock and roll; adding to the standard genre harder sounds, heavy guitar riffs, often bombastic drumming and harder vocals: they created the basis for hard rock.

 

At the same time, guitarist Jimi Hendrix produced a particular kind of blues known as Psychedelic rock, which combined elements of jazz, blues and rock and roll creating a unique genre. Also, he was one of the first guitarists to experiment new guitar effects like phasing, feedback and distortion. Another important group in the Blues-rock is Cream (especially the guitarist, Eric Clapton).

 

Hard rock came into existence when British groups of late 1960s like Black Sabbath, Led Zeppelin mixed the music of early British rockers with a particular kind of Blues-rock, typified by an aggressive approach to the blues. Led Zeppelin's eponymous first album, released in 1969, is a good example of heavy blues-rock which represents the true beginning of the hard rock genre.

 

Also Deep Purple showed up in the hard rock scene with the albums Shades of Deep Purple, The Book of Taliesyn, Deep Purple. Together with Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath, Deep Purple is considered to be "masters" of hard rock.

 

 

The First Era (1970s)

 

In the 1970s, hard rock finally got a true identity. Led Zeppelin's third album, Led Zeppelin III was more progressive rock-oriented than the second, but the heavy connotations of their music still remained. So, they received several critics from detractors of hard rock, who considered it a senseless music. Anyway, this did not stop the expansion of hard rock: young boys liked it a lot, seeing it as a form of rebellion against the fair and quiet music of their fathers.

 

In 1970 another important group from UK, Black Sabbath, published what is considered the first heavy metal album, titled Paranoid. Black Sabbath's music was revolutionary even in hard rock: it was typified by the darkest lyrics ever written, hard riffs and a heavy atmosphere. Black Sabbath transformed the current hard rock into a heavier genre, creating a primordial kind of heavy metal.

 

In 1972 Deep Purple published their most famous album titled Machine Head which contains their most famous song, "Smoke on the Water".

 

Machine Head continued Deep Purple's transformation of hard rock, and it is considered along with Paranoid one of the first proto-metal albums. In particular, the song "Highway Star" is considered the first speed metal song in the history (Speed metal is the progenitor of the more extreme thrash metal). However, Deep Purple's music is very different from Black Sabbath's, so Deep Purple are still considered a hard rock group, not a metal group.

 

From 1973, hard rock evolved to another stadium. New artists such as Queen, KISS and Aerosmith introduced heavier elements in the genre, which from this point on lost the blues influences to become more heavy metal-oriented. Aerosmith and Queen published their respective eponymous debut albums, which showed the new evolution of hard rock. Even Led Zeppelin took this direction with the album Houses of the Holy.

 

 

Queen's A Night at the Opera is often studied by music scholars and sports the classic Bohemian RhapsodyQueen used layered vocals and guitars and mixed hard rock with arena rock, glam rock, heavy metal, progressive rock,and even opera.

 

Judas Priest introduced a new element in the genre, the dual rhythm, where two guitarists (instead of the usual single guitarist) play the rhythmic riffs; this element would become common in heavy metal. Judas Priest would go to become one of the major influences on hard rock and power metal.

 

Rainbow, formed by the former guitarist of Deep Purple, Ritchie Blackmore, created the basis for power metal together with Judas Priest, especially thanks to Ritchie Blackmore's great technique. Meanwhile, Black Sabbath took off the darkness of the beginning with albums such as Technical Ecstasy, following the heavy metal direction of Judas Priest and Rainbow.

 

Another important group in the hard rock scene, Van Halen, showed up in 1978. Van Halen's music, different from KISS, Aerosmith and Queen, was based mostly on the guitar skills of Eddie Van Halen, the lead guitarist. The song "Eruption" from the album Van Halen demonstrated Eddie Van Halen's technique and was very influential.

 

In 1979, the differences between the classical hard rock movement and the rising heavy metal movement was highlighted when the Australian band AC/DC, after three Australian only albums, published their first international album titled Highway to Hell. Despite the current heavy metal direction, AC/DC's music is based mostly on the rhythm & blues and the early 1970s hard rock. On the other side, the British band Motörhead put on the basis for the rise of thrash metal with the album Overkill.

 

The year closed with Ozzy Osbourne's firing from Black Sabbath due to his alcohol and drugs problems. Ronnie James Dio, vocalist of Rainbow, came to replace him

 

The Second Era (1980s)

 

In the 1980s, a new wave of rockers pushed the envelope of the old frontier. Heavy metal got a separate identity from hard rock.

 

In 1980 Led Zeppelin disbanded because of the tragic death of drummer John Bonham who choked on his own vomit after a binge of heavy drinking. Bon Scott, the lead singer of AC/DC had also died from acute alcohol poisoning earlier that year. With this and the disbanding of Zeppelin, the first wave of "classic" rock bands ended. AC/DC still remained on the scene, and published the album Back in Black, which is the second biggest selling album of all time: this album is probably the most influential one of the 1980s for later rockers. By selling so much, AC/DC proved to the public that hard rock could sell and made possible the rise of a radio-friendly hard rock and heavy metal. Van Halen too released successuful albums such as Van Halen II and Women and Children First, which opened the road for what later became glam metal.

 

On the other side, Iron Maiden, Diamond Head, Angel Witch, Motörhead and a now solo Ozzy Osbourne kickstarted a surge of interest in heavy metal. Iron Maiden and Angel Witch's music took great influences from Black Sabbath's legendary album Paranoid: dark sounds, heavy riffs and dark lyrics. Their style also featured fantasy-based elements, which differenced them from Black Sabbath's classic metal: together with Judas Priest, they are considered to be the mainstays of New Wave of British Heavy Metal.

 

In 1981, the American band Mötley Crüe released a massively influential album called Too Fast For Love, which set the basis for the rising genre Glam Metal. A year later the genre exploded, especially thanks to Twisted Sister and Quiet Riot: Twisted Sister's Under The Blade is considered one of the best Classic metal albums, and Quiet Riot's Metal Health is the first album ever which reached #1 in the Billboard United States chart.On the other side of the ocean, Iron Maiden's The Number of the Beast reached #1 in United Kingdom charts.

 

Def Leppard, a sheffield-based post-punk band showed up in the scene with the album Pyromania, which reached #2 in the American charts: Their music was a mix of glam rock, heavy metal, classic rock and Album Oriented Rock, which influenced many 80s hard rock and glam rock bands.

 

In 1983 Mötley Crüe released their most famous album, Shout at the Devil, which became a huge hit; for this reason the album is often considered to be "The Breakthrough Metal album". 1984 was a key year. KISS returned on the scene unmasked with the album Animalize: with their unmasking, they officially entered in the glam metal movement. Van Halen's album 1984 became a huge success, hitting #2 on Billboard album charts; in particular, the song "Jump" hit #1 in the single chart and is considered one of the most popular rock songs ever written. Judas Priest's Defenders of the Faith achieved RIAA Gold and Platinum certifications. Other important acts in 1984's glam scene were Ratt and W.A.S.P..

 

At the same time, Yngwie J. Malmsteen and Steve Vai, two virtuoso guitarists, released their respective debut albums, Rising Force and Flex-Able. Their unique style didn't feature vocals, with both albums showcasing the guitar-playing talents of the artists instead; this was the birth of Instrumental Rock. There were differences between Malmsteen and Vai; while Malmsteen's music was greatly influcenced by classical music, Vai was more of a hard rock purist whose hero was Frank Zappa.

 

In 1986, 1980s hard rock finally went mainstream. The Swedish band Europe released The Final Countdown, maybe the most popular and radio-friendly album together with Van Halen's 1984. In particular, the title track "The Final Countdown" became a huge success, hitting number 1 in 26 countries.

 

In the same year the virtuoso guitarist Joe Satriani, teacher and great friend of Steve Vai, released his first full album, Not of This Earth. True success for him arrived a year later, with the release of Surfing with the Alien, a milestone in the history of Instrumental Rock.

 

1987 was another big year. The most notable successes in the charts were Appetite For Destruction by Guns N' Roses, Hysteria by Def Leppard, which hit #1 in Billboard album chart, Mötley Crüe's Girls, Girls, Girls and Whitesnake's 1987. In 1988, a band mixing hard rock and some metal and influenced by such artists as Bon Jovi appeared: Skid Row. Their first album was called the same way Skid Row and was released in 1989. Next Skid Row's albums appeared during the 90's. Thrash metal was strongly transformed in something called groove metal, which would later evolve, together with Rage Against the Machine's music, into the Nu Metal genre or into grindcore by groups such as Napalm Death, whose debut was in 1987 with the album Scum. In the same year, the Seattle band Soundgarden showed up with the EP Screaming Life, giving rise to yet another sub-genre, Grunge.

 

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The Third Era (1990s)

 

The 1990s was an eventful and often puzzling era for hard rock. In 1991 Freddie Mercury of Queen announced he had AIDS and died a day later. The early 90s were marked by the rise of Grunge bands in Seattle, who provided one of the earliest scenes of Alternative Rock. Some of these bands met with much commercial success, such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Soundgarden, and Alice in Chains. While their success was often pitched in the media as a Punk Rock reaction to Arena rock and Glam Metal, the bands were hardly antagonistic towards the heavy metal genre in general; Soundgarden and Nirvana were influenced by much 1970s and 1980s metal, while Alice in Chains was arguably a metal band themselves. Several other notable bands included The Screaming Trees, Mother Love Bone, Mudhoney, and a few non-Seattle bands such as Stone Temple Pilots (who were very popular with fans but not with critics).

 

As the popularity of artists such as Metallica continued from the 1980s into the 1990s, some other bands had begun to fuse metal with a range of eclectic influences. These bands came to be known as alternative metal artists, another subset of alternative rock. Some, such as Primus and Red Hot Chili Peppers fused Funk with metal styles. Tool was a popular band, drawing from early progressive acts such as King Crimson for influence. Jane's Addiction adopted a somewhat bohemian aesthetic, while Faith No More referenced many genres ranging from Rap to Soul. The Deftones and Helmet were also popular, especially among skateboarders.

 

The Smashing Pumpkins was another band of the mid 1990s, whose albums Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness sold many millions of copies.

 

 

Glam metal

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Glam metal is a sub-genre of heavy metal music, that arose in the late 1970s in the United States. It was a dominant genre in popular rock music throughout the 1980s.

 

The genre is also referred to, often by detractors, as hair metal. This term was popularized by MTV in the 1990s and derives from the tendency amongst some bands to style their long hair in a teased-up fashion. Also, this music has been called by the more derogatory terms c**k rock and butt rock. During its heyday, the genre was often referred to as heavy metal or simply metal

 

Origins

The genre is influenced heavily by 1970s rock and heavy metal bands, such as Aerosmith, Alice Cooper, Black Sabbath, KISS, Led Zeppelin, New York Dolls, Queen [1], The Sweet, and others.

 

A few bands experimented with mixing "Glam rock" and "Heavy metal" before the 1980s hit. Angel, Starz, and Legs Diamond were prime examples. However, it wasn't until the early 80s that the genre truly began to gather speed.

 

Some credited Van Halen and Quiet Riot and the first glam metal bands, but others argued that the movement on the Sunset Strip was kick-started largely by Mötley Crüe. Either way, both bands played a prominent part in the genre's direction.

 

In 1980, a year prior to Mötley Crüe forming, a UK band known as Wrathchild, fronted by Rocky Shades, also emerged. This band was known for playing Glam Metal style music and having a similar image. However, they did not gain the same level of fame as their American contemporaries. [2]

 

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First wave of glam metal

In the early 1980s, heavy metal spawned several sub-genres; glam metal became its most popular manifestation. The first wave of glam metal bands included the likes of Mötley Crüe, Van Halen, Twisted Sister, Ratt, W.A.S.P., Dokken, and Quiet Riot. Their music was less melodic than their younger contemporaries, like Cinderella and Poison, whose music and image ultimately became synonymous with the genre.

 

One of the first massively successful glam metal albums was Def Leppard's Pyromania, released in 1983. Under the guidance of producer Mutt Lange, the album was a gritty hard rock record contained within a polished production. The success of the album influenced much of the hard rock scene of the era to pursue a more mainstream sound than some of their predecessors, and opened the door to what would become the popular era of glam metal.

 

A year later Van Halen released 1984, which was immensely successful, containing hit singles "Jump", "Panama", "Hot For Teacher", and "I'll Wait". Dokken released Tooth And Nail that same year which has the hits Just Got Lucky, Into The Fire and Alone Again. The Scorpions also released their most popular album Love At First Sting that same year. Ozzy Osbourne went glam and made the album The Ultimate Sin, which was also very successful during the glam metal era with the hits "Shot In the Dark", "The Ultimate Sin" and "Lightning Strikes". During the mid 1980s many other bands who weren't originally glam metal bands flirted with the genre's stylings, such as; Alice Cooper, KISS, Aerosmith, The Scorpions, Bad Company, Yngwie Malmsteen, Whitesnake and Judas Priest.

 

Glam metal was aggressive, with lyrics often focusing on girls, drinking, drug use, and the occult. Musically, glam metal songs often featured distorted guitar riffs, "hammer-on" solos, anthemic choruses, frenzied drumming, and complementary bass. Glam metal performers became infamous for their debauched lifestyles, their long, teased hair, and use of make-up, clothing, and accessories, traits somewhat reminiscent of glam rock; a music genre which first emerged in the United Kingdom during the early 1970s.

 

By the mid-1980s, glam metal could be defined by two major divisions. On the mainstream side were bands such as Bon Jovi, whose 1986 album Slippery When Wet was a huge success at Top 40 radio and MTV, and Europe, whose single "The Final Countdown" hit number one in 26 countries. On the other side came the more insular Los Angeles scene around the Sunset Strip, which eventually spawned such bands as Poison, Faster Pussycat, and L.A. Guns. The visual aspects of glam metal made the music appealing to music television, particularly MTV when it was launched. During the mid-to-late 1980s, glam metal tracks were in heavy rotation on the channel. Glam metal bands often resided at the top of MTV's daily Dial MTV countdown, and bands often appeared on the channel to help promote their music.

 

While glam metal was highly successful at MTV, the genre found occasional problems at radio. While a handful of major-market radio stations, such as KNAC in Los Angeles, heavily played glam metal music, most medium and small markets lacked stations that specialized in new rock. Even rock stations in markets such as New York tended to focus on classic rock. In many cities, glam metal tracks were often played in Top 40 stations, who spun only the most popular tracks. However, even with that limiting factor, the popularity of those tracks meant that glam metal music was virtually ubiquitous by the late 80s.

 

Glam metal enjoyed widespread success during the 1980s, but bands often found themselves on the wrong side of critics and the music industry - with notable exceptions like MTV. One notable example came in 1987 with the release of Mötley Crüe's Girls, Girls, Girls. Before the establishment of Soundscan in 1991, Billboard's album chart was decided by a combination of reports from retailers, wholesalers, and industry professionals, rather than on actual album sales. As the band related on MTV's Week in Rock, the week that Girls, Girls, Girls peaked at #2 on the Billboard chart, it was actually the highest-selling album of that week. However, the industry professionals gave extra weight to Whitney Houston's sophomore album, allowing it to retain the top spot. In the band's opinion, the industry simply wouldn't allow their album to hold the #1 spot. (The band eventually conquered the top spot with their next album, Dr. Feelgood, which became the biggest album of their career.)

 

Glam metal continued to grow its fanbase as the 80s progressed. Def Leppard's 1987 album Hysteria spawned seven successful singles, and eventually sold more than ten million copies in the US. Poison's second album Open Up And Say...Ahh! spawned a huge single in "Every Rose Has Its Thorn", and eventually sold eight million copies worldwide.

 

As more glam metal bands found success, a discernible formula emerged in the way that glam metal bands were marketed. Labels would start off by releasing a hard-rocking anthem, then follow it with a power ballad. From Poison ("Nothing But a Good Time" and "Every Rose Has Its Thorn") to Warrant ("Down Boys" and "Heaven") to White Lion ("Wait" and "When the Children Cry") to Winger ("Seventeen" and "Heading for a Heartbreak"), the formula became so commonplace that it began to be seen as a glam metal cliché. Fans of the genre balked as well, noting that, of the pair, the power ballad typically received far more airplay on mainstream radio. They feared that the genre would be known only for the ballads.

 

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Sleaze glam

In 1987, Guns N' Roses completely changed the direction of glam metal. They incorporated the sounds of blues and punk into the music, while keeping some of the images of glam rock. Other bands arose during this time following a similar musical path, such as Faster Pussycat, L.A. Guns, Roxx Gang, Skid Row and Dangerous Toys. This offshoot of Glam Metal was dubbed "Sleaze Glam," and more recently, "Sleaze Metal."

 

In the United Kingdom, a similar movement was emerging although more Hanoi Rocks and Johnny Thunders influenced sound than their American contemporaries, bands included Dogs D'Amour, London Quireboys, Soho Roses, Kill City Dragons, and others. Around this time British band The Cult moved their music away from their post-punk roots and began playing a more AC/DC Sleaze influenced sound and toured the United States with Guns N' Roses.

 

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Decline of glam metal

In the early 1990s, glam metal's popularity rapidly declined, after over a decade of success. While several factors played a role, the most often cited was the surge in popularity of grunge music from Seattle, such as that performed by Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Alice in Chains. (Ironically, Alice in Chains started as a glam metal band, and opened for Van Halen on their 1991 tour in support of For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge.)

 

One element in the decline was the significant role that music television played in glam metal's success. While alternative rock was more serious in tone, it contained many of the elements that made glam metal so ideal for music television, including its own visual style in the way of "grunge" fashion. As MTV shifted its attention to the new style, glam metal bands found themselves relegated more and more often to Headbanger's Ball and late night airplay, and almost entirely disappeared from the channel by early 1994. Given glam metal's lack of a major format presence at radio, bands were left without a clear way to reach their audience.

 

Another factor the contributed to the decline of glam metal was the general "out with the old" attitude often held by the status quo whenever a new decade comes around (not unlike the popular hatred of disco in the early 1980s). With the influx of alternative music as the "new" genre, rock bands that did not adhere to the format were often dismissed as passé. Even bands who altered their style to match the new sound found themselves dismissed as "80s bands".

 

As grunge grew to greater success, many glam metal bands discovered that their labels were no longer supportive. Many major labels felt they had been caught off-guard by the somewhat surprise success of Nirvana's Nevermind, and had begun turning over their personnel in favor of younger staffers more versed in "alternative" music. Jani Lane of Warrant commented on the change in a late-1990s interview with MTV, noting that he knew his band was in trouble when he walked into his label's offices and noticed that the prominent Warrant display had been replaced by one of Alice in Chains. Nearly all of the popular glam metal bands found themselves dropped from their respective labels by the middle of the 1990s.

 

In a notable irony, many grunge and alternative music bands, who had established their careers by professing anti-corporate attitudes, wound up signing contracts with major record labels. At the same time, many glam-metal bands, once considered proponents of "corporate rock", ended up signing with independent labels. Labels such as CMC International and Perris Records were aware that glam metal had an audience, and were more than willing to help bring the music to its fanbase.

 

The decline in glam metal was further compounded by many key '80s metal bands, glam or otherwise, coincidentally either breaking up, losing significant band members, and/or releasing new albums that largely displeased existing fans. For example, Ozzy Osbourne announced his retirement, Vince Neil was briefly fired from Mötley Crüe, and C.C. DeVille left Poison.

 

Some critics wondered if the state of the country in the early 1990s may have had an effect on glam metal's popularity. Given that the US was going through a major recession at the beginning of the decade, several critics wondered if music fans had simply rejected the high-spirited nature of glam metal for the more serious attitudes put forth by grunge bands. Where glam metal as a genre tended to avoid topics such as politics, new bands such as Pearl Jam placed themselves at the center of the political battles associated with the 1992 US Presidential election.

 

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Revival

During the late 1990s, however, several glam metal bands of the popular era began to assert themselves again. Mötley Crüe reunited with Vince Neil, recorded the 1997 album Generation Swine, and embarked on a successful US tour. Poison reunited with C.C. Deville, and embarked on a successful 1999 tour of amphitheaters. A 2000 package tour featuring Poison, Slaughter, Cinderella, and Dokken sold extremely well.

 

By the early 2000s, a handful of new bands began to revive glam metal. The successful British band, The Darkness, was one example, albeit in a more tongue-in-cheek manner, somewhat reminiscent of early Queen. Newer glam metal bands, such as Murderdolls, Gemini Five, and Private Line, have been growing their fanbase. Until their vocalist died in early 2006, Crashdiet were also gaining popularity and were the first band of the genre to sign to a major label in over a decade. Some unsigned and lesser-known bands of the genre that formed during glam metal's popular years are now being signed to smaller labels such as Perris Records and releasing material.

 

Beautiful Creatures, a band formed by ex-Bang Tango frontman Joe Lesté, even signed a major label deal with Warner Brothers Records in 2000.

 

And, even as newer bands adopt glam metal, many of the most popular glam metal bands continue to perform. Bands such as L.A. Guns, Ratt, and W.A.S.P. have appeared in package tours together, and Mötley Crüe and Poison are continuing to record material and tour. The Monster Ballads compilation series has sold well, with the first volume peaking at #18 on the Billboard 200. Even Guns N' Roses is signalling a return in 2006, given the leaking of new material and the booking of festival dates, potentially leading up to the long-awaited release of Chinese Democracy although their style is not glam anymore.

 

 

Think we have enough of an arguement for Bon Jovi to be moved

Ok, I think I'll move the Bon Jovi threads to the Pop forum ;) I'm also gonna start a thread in the Lounge after so we can sort out the confusion of what bands go where. ;) (so we do it for or forums as well as this one)

Bon Jovi has GONE.

Bon Jovi has GONE.

 

Thank funk for that!!!

 

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look you've made them all happy now :lol:

Yay! Thanks. I came *this* close to changing my surname to Sambora there :D

A short movie of the same name was recorded right around the record's release, based entirely on the songs from the record and starring Jon Bon Jovi, Demi Moore, Kevin Bacon and Whoopy Goldberg among others. Dave Stewart of Eurythmics played guitar on the record. :puke2: :puke2: :puke2:

 

 

in this month's GQ the rules for buying albums says never buy an album that Dave Stewart is involved with, will be deeply uncool :lol: