March 7, 200916 yr I'm more into metal, but that doesn't mean I prefer metal. ;) I don't know many punk songs and bands, so... Edited March 7, 200916 yr by funmaker11
March 7, 200916 yr Metal. Punk really is/was just noise, Metal has more depth about it, hence why I prefer it.
March 7, 200916 yr Punk can have alot more melody than metal tracks. I pref alt music. But nevermind the bollocks is one of greatest cds I have ever listened 2.
March 8, 200916 yr Metal. Punk really is/was just noise, Metal has more depth about it, hence why I prefer it. Absolutely agree :D (Was going to write something atrocious but then i saw this comment.)
March 8, 200916 yr Depends on what "punk" you're talking about... 70s/early 80s Punk and Post-Punk was great (the Pistols, The Clash, Dead Kennedys), but the bloody So-Cal stuff, I just cant stand.....
March 8, 200916 yr Metal. Punk really is/was just noise, Metal has more depth about it, hence why I prefer it. speaks the voice of youth! you obviously dont know what real punk was about, and im talking original punk, not the poppunk crap that hides behind its glitzy image today. metal not a noise? :lol: when bands were vying for the accolade of being the loudest? :lol: punk never did that!
March 8, 200916 yr Author Depends on what "punk" you're talking about... 70s/early 80s Punk and Post-Punk was great (the Pistols, The Clash, Dead Kennedys), but the bloody So-Cal stuff, I just cant stand..... well im not talking about a particular era of punk, i just mean like in general.
March 8, 200916 yr well im not talking about a particular era of punk, i just mean like in general. with respect, i think you HAVE to, as original punk had alot more meaning to it then todays pop punk... (we would have called it 'plastic punk' back in 77-82, ie popsters using punk as a vehicle to make contemporary music. it was false, punk had a political dynamic, plastic punk was pop punk).
March 8, 200916 yr Author with respect, i think you HAVE to, as original punk had alot more meaning to it then todays pop punk... (we would have called it 'plastic punk' back in 77-82, ie popsters using punk as a vehicle to make contemporary music. it was false, punk had a political dynamic, plastic punk was pop punk). well in my view i see punk and pop punk as two different genres, an here i am refering to punk rather than pop punk.
March 8, 200916 yr speaks the voice of youth! you obviously dont know what real punk was about, and im talking original punk, not the poppunk crap that hides behind its glitzy image today. metal not a noise? :lol: when bands were vying for the accolade of being the loudest? :lol: punk never did that! :heehee: Original Punk only really was (as I say), noise, but with decent lyrics. :heehee: Punk these days is pretty naff, or just died out.
March 8, 200916 yr Author :heehee: Original Punk only really was (as I say), noise, but with decent lyrics. :heehee: Punk these days is pretty naff, or just died out. decent lyrics? i shall quote the sex pistols... 'I am an anti-christ, I am an anarchist' worst line ever written ever. lyrics arent good just becuase they rhyme.
March 9, 200916 yr :heehee: Original Punk only really was (as I say), noise, but with decent lyrics. :heehee: Punk these days is pretty naff, or just died out. decent lyrics? i shall quote the sex pistols... 'I am an anti-christ, I am an anarchist' worst line ever written ever. lyrics arent good just becuase they rhyme. but original punks purpose was to deliberately stick two fingers up at society, rejecting what has been fed to them (us :) ) both politically and musically, so to be shocking both in appearance and with music was appropriate. ok, original punk was 'noise' to many , but as i see it it was anger, rebelion, with melody albeit noisy! as for punks lyrics, some as chris quoted dont sound to clever, but they were again appropriate to the time ... besides metal has had easily its share of naff lyrics... the story in 'smoke on the water' for eg is pretty lame, its the riff that makes that track, nothing else. and 'run to the hills, run for your life' aint exactly 'deep and meaningful' either! :lol:
March 9, 200916 yr decent lyrics? i shall quote the sex pistols... 'I am an anti-christ, I am an anarchist' worst line ever written ever. lyrics arent good just becuase they rhyme. Rubbish. You can pretty much take any line of lyric, isolate it from its context and make it sound stupid, if your really wanted to... Most of the time you get it right, but with the Pistols you are soooooo wrong mate...... Those lyrics were about stirring sh!t at a time when sh!t needed to be stirred, ach, but you're so young mate, you just dont understand..... :rolleyes: The late 70s needed someone to come along and basically fukk sh!t up.... It was about polemic, about shaking people out of their apathy and inertia... NOBODY was doing what the Punks were doing, it's so easy to forget that. Punk Rock was the first truly OVERTLY political musical genre. You completely forget about the lyrics to God Save the Queen.... God save the queen her fascist regime It made you a moron a potential h bomb ! God save the queen she aint no human being There is no future in englands dreaming Dont be told what you want dont be told what you need Theres no future no future no future for you God save the queen we mean it man (God save window leen) We love our queen God saves (God save... human beings) God save the queen cos tourists are money And our figurehead is not what she seems Oh God save history God save your mad parade Oh lord God have mercy all crimes are paid When theres no future how can there be sin Were the flowers in the dustbin Were the poison in your human machine Were the future your future God save the queen we mean it man There is no future in englands dreaming No future for you no future for me No future no future for you Are these "bad" lyrics.....? Like fukk...... Without the Sex Pistols, bands like Green Day would simply not exist, end of story.... A "Punk" who disrespects The Pistols, The Clash or the Dead Kennedys is as ridiculous as a "Metal Fan" who disrespects Black Sabbath, Hendrix or Led Zep.... They simply have no knowledge of the music that they listen to, its history, its context, its culture, and I simply cannot take such individuals seriously as music fans.....
March 9, 200916 yr speaks the voice of youth! you obviously dont know what real punk was about, and im talking original punk, not the poppunk crap that hides behind its glitzy image today. metal not a noise? :lol: when bands were vying for the accolade of being the loudest? :lol: punk never did that! Agreed... Far too much of Metal these days is about posing... These fukkin' Battle Metal/Pirate Metal/Power Metal (delete according to what the genre is calling itself this particular week....) bands are just truly pathetic..... For every Machine Head, Within Temptation or Lamb of God, there just seems to be about a hundred "shredder" types like Dragonforce or Manowar.... And they are ALL uniformly terrible..... And "nu" metal was probably one of the WORST sub-genres of Metal ever dreamt up as well..... Limp Bizkit???? Limp DICK more like...... :rolleyes: Some of the Norwegian Black Metal bands look a bit ludicrous, but they actually make some genuinely terrifying and formidable music..... Gorgoroth, Darkthrone, Mayhem and Emperor are truly astounding bands, esp. in a live setting... Bands like Opeth, Anathema and My Dying Bride are similarly impressive.. And the ladies of Metal certainly have their moments as well, Nightwish, Tristania, Within Temptation, Lacuna Coil, Flowing Tears, Arch Enemy and Sirenia, all seriously good bands with strong frontwomen.....
March 10, 200916 yr Rubbish. You can pretty much take any line of lyric, isolate it from its context and make it sound stupid, if your really wanted to... Most of the time you get it right, but with the Pistols you are soooooo wrong mate...... Those lyrics were about stirring sh!t at a time when sh!t needed to be stirred, ach, but you're so young mate, you just dont understand..... :rolleyes: The late 70s needed someone to come along and basically fukk sh!t up.... It was about polemic, about shaking people out of their apathy and inertia... NOBODY was doing what the Punks were doing, it's so easy to forget that. Punk Rock was the first truly OVERTLY political musical genre. You completely forget about the lyrics to God Save the Queen.... God save the queen her fascist regime It made you a moron a potential h bomb ! God save the queen she aint no human being There is no future in englands dreaming Dont be told what you want dont be told what you need Theres no future no future no future for you God save the queen we mean it man (God save window leen) We love our queen God saves (God save... human beings) God save the queen cos tourists are money And our figurehead is not what she seems Oh God save history God save your mad parade Oh lord God have mercy all crimes are paid When theres no future how can there be sin Were the flowers in the dustbin Were the poison in your human machine Were the future your future God save the queen we mean it man There is no future in englands dreaming No future for you no future for me No future no future for you Are these "bad" lyrics.....? Like fukk...... Without the Sex Pistols, bands like Green Day would simply not exist, end of story.... A "Punk" who disrespects The Pistols, The Clash or the Dead Kennedys is as ridiculous as a "Metal Fan" who disrespects Black Sabbath, Hendrix or Led Zep.... They simply have no knowledge of the music that they listen to, its history, its context, its culture, and I simply cannot take such individuals seriously as music fans..... spot on scott... what is largely forgotten/overlooked is the absolute context in which punk took root. kids at school (my generation) WERE being told theres no future, careers advice was 'join the army' or 'join the local factory' or 'go on the dole'.... the outlook for youth in the mid 70's was DIRE, what the punk generation did, is take control of our own lives, we rejected what we were being told, and punk music was the vehicle in which arguably the biggest ever social change in youth culture became manifest. metal never did this, metal was always recriational music, dispite that 7 ages of rock programme claiming that metal has always been with us since conception, its influence on todays youth is very very minor. it was punk that championed political thinking, free thinking, equality for gays, blacks, women, it was punk that championed inovative fashions that are still around today... metals influence in those departments remains strictly minor.
March 10, 200916 yr What is the difference between punk and metal? Punk has to do with agressive lyrics, music (particularly drums) and not-too-heavy vocals. Metal is more of the deeper level of rock. :D
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