March 19, 200916 yr Condoms not the answer in AIDS fight, Pope says I guess his solution is 'no sex' ... or just somewhere hidden in a dark corner... :heehee:
March 19, 200916 yr I guess his solution is 'no sex' That is his solution exactly. The Catholic doctrine states that sex is only allowed or 'not sinful' when it is to creat children. Which is why many of us are lapsed Catholics I suppose. My answer to the leader of the Catholic Church is .... unless you're going to help with a practical solution ... then just stay silent. Norma
March 19, 200916 yr The figure I heard for AIDS in Africa these days is 27 million.... <_< So, this idiot goes to Africa, a continent ravaged by AIDS, hunger and population problems, and basically tells the people there "dont use birth control".... What a fukkin' idiot.... These bloody Catholic Priests take vows of celibacy (well, mind you, considering the amount of altar boys these scum have sexually coerced and raped over the years, their "vows" dont exactly work all that well do they....?), therefore, in my view, they're effectively taking themselves out of the game... So, they have no right to tell others what the rules should be.... -_- In other words Pope Benedict - SHUT THE FUKK UP..... <_<
March 24, 200916 yr Tbh ^ , anyone who says that contraception isn't the answer to fighting aids is a total prat, but when it comes from a world religious leader, who has MAJOR influence over Africa, that's when it becomes scary.
March 24, 200916 yr I'm really becoming disillusioned with this whole pope/vatican thing, I haven't really thought much about it until now but they don't really have that much power anymore (but they pretend they do) and they only want to put thier own beliefs on people. They seem to just want to control people again like they did in the past. :( I mean he said the harry potter books were evil :o I liked the previous pope alot more.
March 24, 200916 yr ^ I've never liked a Pope before. And, it's BS to say that HP books are evil. It's like saying the Dan Brown books (e.g. Da Vinci Code) are lies, when it's never claimed to be true by Dan itself anyway. :(
March 25, 200916 yr Do I need to add more to this scathing commentary? Nah, but I will. Benedict is an absolute lunatic, a sociopath who reminds me of George W Bush in his ability to appear paradoxically sinister and maliciously sophisticated, yet utterly brainless. How can anyone say something so stupid and so evil at the same time?! I'm an atheist but I was raised Catholic and I learned a thing or two about Catholicism. Assuming Christ did exist, there's one thing that is undeniable about him: he was as liberal, hippy, leftist, scuzzy, and anti-establishment as any single human who may have ever lived. He ditched all his belongings, devoted his life to the poor and the sick and the outcast and the sinners, he protested not just the Romans but, to the chagrin of many, the JEWS. He said it is harder for a rich man to go to heaven than it is for a CAMEL TO GO THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE. Now we have Benedict, who notoriously fancies $500 Italian shoes and waltzed around in fukking golden robes while people kiss his goddamned hand and treat him like a godamn king (remember Christ was born in a barn and didn't wear shoes at all). Christ never mentioned a THING about abortion, a THING about homosexuality, a THING about contraception, for f***s sake, he came to earth specifically and explicitly TO TELL THE JEWS THE TORAH WAS f***ING WRONG, so whenever someone calls back to Leviticus or some god forsaken old Testament text, remember that Christ said it was all BULL$h!t, the commandments are all BULL$h!t, what matters is to love each other like you would want to be loved yourself. SO simple and yet it all seems to have been forgotten. When you look at Benedict's face, do you see love? Didn't think so. The Catholic church as it is now is absolutely the ANTITHESIS of what Christ intended, he'd be SHOCKED and APPALLED and ASHAMED to see such nonesense coming from Benedict, the gold and the waltzing around and the beautiful clothes and the nonsense horse$h!t rhetoric about sex... all this to praise a poor, lowly CARPENTER??? It's ASTONISHING and INFURIATING, what the Catholic church has become and how much damage it has caused, death and misery around the world. Would Christ have said better to die of AIDS than use a condom? Give me a fukking break. Edited March 25, 200916 yr by Consie
March 25, 200916 yr I haven't really thought much about it until now but they don't really have that much power anymore (but they pretend they do) What they have, however, is a lot of INFLUENCE and sway over political leaders in Africa and Latin America.... And this is the whole problem, it's why you have serious population problems in places such as Mexico and Brazil, and the absolutely devastating effect of AIDS in Africa.... Kids being born with AIDS and kids being born into utter abject poverty, are frankly, better off not being born at all, as harsh as that sounds.... Birth control, contraception and Abortion are really the only solutions to these problems....
March 26, 200916 yr Do I need to add more to this scathing commentary? Nah, but I will. Benedict is an absolute lunatic, a sociopath who reminds me of George W Bush in his ability to appear paradoxically sinister and maliciously sophisticated, yet utterly brainless. How can anyone say something so stupid and so evil at the same time?! I'm an atheist but I was raised Catholic and I learned a thing or two about Catholicism. Assuming Christ did exist, there's one thing that is undeniable about him: he was as liberal, hippy, leftist, scuzzy, and anti-establishment as any single human who may have ever lived. He ditched all his belongings, devoted his life to the poor and the sick and the outcast and the sinners, he protested not just the Romans but, to the chagrin of many, the JEWS. He said it is harder for a rich man to go to heaven than it is for a CAMEL TO GO THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE. Now we have Benedict, who notoriously fancies $500 Italian shoes and waltzed around in fukking golden robes while people kiss his goddamned hand and treat him like a godamn king (remember Christ was born in a barn and didn't wear shoes at all). Christ never mentioned a THING about abortion, a THING about homosexuality, a THING about contraception, for f***s sake, he came to earth specifically and explicitly TO TELL THE JEWS THE TORAH WAS f***ING WRONG, so whenever someone calls back to Leviticus or some god forsaken old Testament text, remember that Christ said it was all BULL$h!t, the commandments are all BULL$h!t, what matters is to love each other like you would want to be loved yourself. SO simple and yet it all seems to have been forgotten. When you look at Benedict's face, do you see love? Didn't think so. The Catholic church as it is now is absolutely the ANTITHESIS of what Christ intended, he'd be SHOCKED and APPALLED and ASHAMED to see such nonesense coming from Benedict, the gold and the waltzing around and the beautiful clothes and the nonsense horse$h!t rhetoric about sex... all this to praise a poor, lowly CARPENTER??? It's ASTONISHING and INFURIATING, what the Catholic church has become and how much damage it has caused, death and misery around the world. Would Christ have said better to die of AIDS than use a condom? Give me a fukking break. what a brilliant, brilliant addition to this thread. And I agree on every single word.
March 26, 200916 yr Do I need to add more to this scathing commentary? Nah, but I will. Benedict is an absolute lunatic, a sociopath who reminds me of George W Bush in his ability to appear paradoxically sinister and maliciously sophisticated, yet utterly brainless. How can anyone say something so stupid and so evil at the same time?! I'm an atheist but I was raised Catholic and I learned a thing or two about Catholicism. Assuming Christ did exist, there's one thing that is undeniable about him: he was as liberal, hippy, leftist, scuzzy, and anti-establishment as any single human who may have ever lived. He ditched all his belongings, devoted his life to the poor and the sick and the outcast and the sinners, he protested not just the Romans but, to the chagrin of many, the JEWS. He said it is harder for a rich man to go to heaven than it is for a CAMEL TO GO THROUGH THE EYE OF A NEEDLE. Now we have Benedict, who notoriously fancies $500 Italian shoes and waltzed around in fukking golden robes while people kiss his goddamned hand and treat him like a godamn king (remember Christ was born in a barn and didn't wear shoes at all). Christ never mentioned a THING about abortion, a THING about homosexuality, a THING about contraception, for f***s sake, he came to earth specifically and explicitly TO TELL THE JEWS THE TORAH WAS f***ING WRONG, so whenever someone calls back to Leviticus or some god forsaken old Testament text, remember that Christ said it was all BULL$h!t, the commandments are all BULL$h!t, what matters is to love each other like you would want to be loved yourself. SO simple and yet it all seems to have been forgotten. When you look at Benedict's face, do you see love? Didn't think so. The Catholic church as it is now is absolutely the ANTITHESIS of what Christ intended, he'd be SHOCKED and APPALLED and ASHAMED to see such nonesense coming from Benedict, the gold and the waltzing around and the beautiful clothes and the nonsense horse$h!t rhetoric about sex... all this to praise a poor, lowly CARPENTER??? It's ASTONISHING and INFURIATING, what the Catholic church has become and how much damage it has caused, death and misery around the world. Would Christ have said better to die of AIDS than use a condom? Give me a fukking break. If the post of the month awards were still in existence on BJ this would get my vote
March 26, 200916 yr Completely agreed to Consie esp. the last paragraph. Without the extreme stupidity of the Catholic Church, the world we live on could have constant less wars and live in the better truth and the schools wouldn't teach us blind Catholic views. ;)
March 27, 200916 yr Like the posters above, I 100% agree with Consie. Excellent post and totally true.
March 27, 200916 yr consie..... i have to agree with others praising your post, it couldnt be more spot on if it was laser guided!
March 27, 200916 yr Thank you, thank you... I think about the only Catholics left in the world with any credibility or understanding of the church are the liberation theologians... specifically the nuns and priests in Latin America who actually stand up for justice, peace and basic human needs (and are all too often tortured and killed for it).
March 28, 200916 yr Author Another article from CNN: http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/europe/0...acks/index.html Critics took to the social networking site Facebook to voice their fury over Pope Benedict's remark that condoms do not prevent HIV. Thousands have pledged to send the pontiff millions of condoms to protest the controversial comment he made to journalists as he flew to Cameroon last week. "You can't resolve it with the distribution of condoms," the pope told reporters. "On the contrary, it increases the problem." Pope Benedict XVI has made it clear he intends to uphold the traditional Catholic teaching on artificial contraception. The Vatican has long opposed the use of condoms and other forms of birth control and encourages sexual abstinence to fight the spread of the disease. About a dozen Facebook groups have sprang up, mostly from European countries, criticizing the pontiff. "The clergy aren't supposed to have sex at all, but they are free to tell people how to conduct themselves? That's like a girl who wears no make-up as the CEO of CoverGirl," one member posted on the page, "Condoms for Pope Benedict XVI." "It frightens me that a man who has devoted his life to moral guidance ... and is undeniably a learned, intelligent man can be at the same time so narrow-minded, bigoted and irresponsible," posted another person on a different page. The online campaign added another voice to a deluge of criticism, which includes the governments of France, Germany and Belgium. Aid agencies and other health organizations have also chimed in. The Lancet, a British medical journal, urged the pope Saturday to issue a retraction for the "outrageous and wildly inaccurate" statement to journalists aboard his plane. "When any influential person, be it a religious or political leader, makes a false scientific statement that could be devastating to the health of millions of people, they should retract or correct the public record," The Lancet said in an editorial. "Anything less from Pope Benedict would be an immense disservice to the public and health advocates, including many thousands of Catholics, who work tirelessly to try and prevent the spread of HIV/AIDS worldwide." Some in the Catholic Church have rallied to the pontiff's support. Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco, head of the Italian Bishops Conference, told Times Online in Britain that Benedict was simply pointing out that condoms "had not solved and could not solve the AIDS problem." Despite the controversy, the pope's pilgrimage spurred excitement in Africa. An estimated 1 million people turned out to hear him preach a Mass in Angola on Sunday, the last major event of his trip. He spoke of the need for reconciliation in the country, which has endured a brutal civil war. "Look to the future with hope, trust in God's promises and live in his truth. In this way you will build something that will stand and endure," he said.
March 28, 200916 yr ^ :lol: :lol: Loving it.... The Catholic Church are becoming more and more ridiculous and isolated with each passing piece of nonsense that the Pope spews forth..... Didn't Nostradamus predict that this Pope would be the last one....? :lol: :lol: :lol:
March 28, 200916 yr Didn't Nostradamus predict that this Pope would be the last one....? :lol: :lol: :lol: Ahh we know that's never going to happen. :( When all religion ends, that's when the world will become a better place (as corny as it sounds! :heehee: )
March 30, 200916 yr Ahh we know that's never going to happen. :( When all religion ends, that's when the world will become a better place (as corny as it sounds! :heehee: ) I was actually thinking more that a second "Reformation" might happen, the stupidity and arrogance of Pope Benedict might inspire another huge split in the Catholic church, which will basically tear the whole thing apart.... :rolleyes:
March 30, 200916 yr Some in the Catholic Church have rallied to the pontiff's support. Cardinal Angelo Bagnasco, head of the Italian Bishops Conference, told Times Online in Britain that Benedict was simply pointing out that condoms "had not solved and could not solve the AIDS problem." Despite the controversy, the pope's pilgrimage spurred excitement in Africa. An estimated 1 million people turned out to hear him preach a Mass in Angola on Sunday, the last major event of his trip. He spoke of the need for reconciliation in the country, which has endured a brutal civil war. "Look to the future with hope, trust in God's promises and live in his truth. In this way you will build something that will stand and endure," he said. How could you be telling the truth if you don't properly understand the problem? ;) Yes, the Bible said "Go forth and multiply" but it also said to subdue. ;) Edited March 30, 200916 yr by funmaker11
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