Could never quite get my head around that one - a bit of thoughtful geniusnous or...? Most of the time I tend toward the latter :P

 

And though I've been resisting it for a while, I'm gonna have to say now a big :puke2: to ATB - 9pm Til I Come...almost as bad as Fragma with Toca's Miracle and Wamdue Project's King Of My Castle. I think those were responsible for the beginning of the end for the dominance of dance music.

 

I couldn't stand Divine Comedy, very very very irritating.

 

I too will give a big :puke2: to ATB's ridiculously over-rated 9pm. I think the "less is more" approach was the flavour du jour of 99, another dance track I didn't like at all at the time was Alice Deejay and that also had nothing to it. Rubbish! :lol:

 

 

Your word against an overwhleming majority.

 

Bollocks... I was there sonny, dont try and tell me the time of day when I'm wearing a watch :P :lol: .... I know the definitions and where they came from, and who started them... The KLF were the first Dance act to use the term "Trance" within their music ('Last Train to TRANCE-Central', may actually give you some clue... :rolleyes: ), they also coined terms such as "Stadium House", they were extremely flippant and just chucked out terms as an afterthought, but "Trance" seems to be the one that ultimately took.... Why dont you actually "wiki" the KLF and one or two of the other acts I mentioned, and learn one or two facts before spouting nonsense such as this.....

Bollocks... I was there sonny, dont try and tell me the time of day when I'm wearing a watch :P :lol: .... I know the definitions and where they came from, and who started them... The KLF were the first Dance act to use the term "Trance" within their music ('Last Train to TRANCE-Central', may actually give you some clue... :rolleyes: ), they also coined terms such as "Stadium House", they were extremely flippant and just chucked out terms as an afterthought, but "Trance" seems to be the one that ultimately took.... Why dont you actually "wiki" the KLF and one or two of the other acts I mentioned, and learn one or two facts before spouting nonsense such as this.....

 

Why are grown men throwing bloody hissy-fits?

 

Yes I'm well aware of the KLF - they made great tracks, now can we fastforward a few years please? Genres die, but some change and evolve.

 

Your oppostion in 99 was superclubs up and down the UK with weekly turnouts of tens of thousands of punters, catching DJs like Ferry Corsten, Carl Cox, Tiesto, Armin Van Buuren and Dave Pearce. These tracks you disregard as watered down chart fodder were actually titanic sized anthems that still remain popular ten years on.

 

 

 

 

Edited April 10, 200916 yr by ScottyEm

sometimes i think you just gob off for the sake of it... <_<

 

if you had been following my seriese youd know that the shamen and klf got their just recognition earlier in the 90's... however if you care to actually LOOK at this list of MY favs (not a definitive list) from 99 youll see that theres the greatest numbers of trance tracks in this list then in any other!

 

and whilst they may well have been the originators of the genre, it moved on, youll not find any klf or shamen on any 'best of trance' compilations.... i wonder why? the style evolved and it became most popular 97-02 reaching its chart zenith in 99 when the 'ibeefa' scene was also at its peak (according to my m8 who was a dj in ibeefa 95-01 )

 

so whatever way you want to pick fault... 1999 WAS my PERSONAL favourite year for trance...

 

Rob,

 

Scott's dead right.... you're about 7 years too late for 'trance'...ok, if you count the charty, commercial 'trance', then fine.... but to understand the genre, you have to look beyond the top 40 and into the clubs from, I'd say, 1992 onwards. Even earlier if you count the KLF.

 

If anything, the late 90s heralded the death of the genre - and most of the tracks you mentioned were released way prior to 99 anyway, 99 saw their re-re-re-release.

 

One of the finest ever 'trance' songs was IQ's 'Psycho (Get Out Of My Life' which was about 94. A bit of a seminal trance record, that one....

 

Also, Marmion's 'Schoneberg', the early Sasha singles, the Bedrock stuff from the mid 90s, Virtualmismo, Friends Lovers and Family (the Reactivate compilations were a treasure trove of fantastic early trance), Age of Love... etc.

 

And the absolute pinnacle of trance was the very first Renaissance compilation in 1994 by Sasha and John Digweed (surely trance's godfather) which, if you've not heard it.... Rob.... you really must. Featuring trance classics like Mismoplastico, Age of Love and the stunning Bladerunner theme.... it was reissued not long ago - the original, in some of the most beautiful packaging ever, fetches about £100 these days...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Renaissance-Collec...1248&sr=1-1

 

But the tracks you mention, Rob, apart from the original Binary Finary, were garlic to a vampire for the trance fans at the time..... the equivalent to Cascada or Basshunter and their ghastly massacre of the dance genre today. ATB?! Rob!!!!! :o

others i know who WERE there, that trance as a sub genre of dance peaked in 99-00...

 

Rob, take it from me - these people are waaaay off the mark - I DJ'd from the start right to the end of the 90s.... I can vouch that by 98.... trance as a serious dance genre had died a miserable death..... helped along merrily by tosh like ATB, Fragma et al.

Rob, take it from me - these people are waaaay off the mark - I DJ'd from the start right to the end of the 90s.... I can vouch that by 98.... trance as a serious dance genre had died a miserable death..... helped along merrily by tosh like ATB, Fragma et al.

 

Thank you Russ.... I always know I can rely on you to put things straight in matters like these.... :)

 

And Scotty, what I'm objecting to, and why I'm throwing a "hissy fit", is the misappropriation of labels.... Calling sh"t like ATB and Fragma "Trance" is a bit like selling some cheap, knock off plonk as a "vintage claret", or selling off some cheap, nasty suit made by Chinese slave labourers in a sweat shop as a Moss Bros or Yves Saint Laurent original..... The music press and the industry itself has a hell of a lot to answer for in the dilution and dumbing down of genres, "(s)indie" and "goff" are another two which spring to mind.... Only Metal stands tall and proud as being the one Musical genre that has refused such attempts at dumbing down... The music press invented "nu metal" scene (with sh"tty guitar pop like Linkin Park, Limp Bizkit and Papa Roach infesting the scene like a cancer...) in the late-90s was totally rejected by the real Metallers, and the genre prevailed and became much stronger in the 00s, with acts such as Machine Head, Mastodon, Lamb of God, Slipknot and a newly invigorated Metallica spearheading the movement today...

 

Trance has unfortunately died a total creative death because of it being diluted with what was basically little better than Eurobeat pap.....

Rob, take it from me - these people are waaaay off the mark - I DJ'd from the start right to the end of the 90s.... I can vouch that by 98.... trance as a serious dance genre had died a miserable death..... helped along merrily by tosh like ATB, Fragma et al.

 

why are they?... miles dj'd in ibeefa, dave pearce and judge jules refer to many of the tracks ive cites as 'trance'.. veracocha, solar stone, blank and jones, .... ok ive concentrated on COMMERCIAL dance/trance as my knowlege of the genre is still building. ok i fully agree atb aint the best thing, and fragma is just dance to me, but many of the tracks ive cited have moved me involuntarily. binary finary was the first track to do this, and carte blanche, they promote an involuntary feeling of euphoria ..... now the klf and the shamen, both of who i rate highly, have never done this.

 

you say it died a death by 98, but imho some of the best trance came after then... push for eg 'strange world' was SUPERB, 'the legacy' and 'universal nation'.

 

as i see it the genre evolved, the later 90's it was far more my style, evoking euphoria through crescendos, repetitive beats/riffs much like i experienced tripping on mushrooms ,... which i believe is why i rate the later trance .

 

i agree about marmoin and age of love etc... please feel free to list similar tracks from before 1998!!!!

.. oh and i must add, alot of my fav tracks arnt listed here as they are album mixes from around this time, that didnt chart and i cant place in a year...

 

eg.. andain 'beautiful things' (dogzilla mix), 'hold that sucker down', 'close to the edge' ... and many more

 

for me 'trance' is music that gives you an involuntary feeling of euphoria through music and dance akin to tripping.

 

Rob, Judge Jules is the very lowest common denominator in DJs - his own miserable output will show that.... him and his hilarious Barbie-doll missus screeching over cheesy fairground backing tracks. And his DJ sets... just awful. I saw the guy a few times in the 90s (whilst he was sharing the bill with much better DJs) and each time he had an unnerving knack of clearing the floor of the more experienced, hardened clubbers and filling it with the kiddie raver glo-stick brigade. He's always been regarded with a grimace in clubland...... apart from by the chart-heads.

 

And Ibiza...belive me, Rob.... there's only been one club wirth even looking at in Ibiza since 91 and that was DC10...and that's closed down last year. The rest of the clubs cater for the very people Judge Jules plays for..... pissed up Brits who've bought a Misery of Sound compilation along the line and who've popped a few pills in a suburban Yates's wine lodge. If you're looking for great dance music and clubbers who are switched on about what they listen to, I'd say Ibiza is the last place to go. Some of the worst clubs I've ever been to were in Ibiza... Space being the absolute worst of the lot.... totally hideous.

 

I agree about OT Quartet's 'Hold That Sucker Down' - but that was first released in 1994.

 

For lovely 'emotional' trance from 95... check Baby Doc's 'Dance of the Seven Veils' here...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AYQTNY64Lc...feature=related

 

Luxor's 'Superstitious' was one of the first proper 'euphoric' tracks..... check this from about 2.15 in... great stuff.

 

But surely THE most epic trance record ever was the superb Friends Lovers and Family's beautiful 'Tribute'... stunning... from 1995...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz0GT8QoYs0

 

Scott....

I have to whole heartedly agree with Russ & Scott and disagree with the others.

 

IMHO The whole Dance / Trance / Rave scene was definitely at its creative peak in the early/mid 1990s.

 

As with most genres of music the whole Dance genre reached its commercial peak after going into a creative decline due to it becoming diluted with the Euro-dance/pop movement; and being able to fill in the void after the decline of Brit-Pop and Grunge/Generation-X Rock of the early/mid 1990s; and the belatedly way the media (& especially in the UK - via Radio 1) jumped on the whole Ibiza/"Superstar DJ" bandwagon with the likes of Pete Tong; Dave Pearce; Judge Jules & the "Sharon & Tracey guide to dance music" Ministry of Sound compilations.

As with most genres of music the whole Dance genre reached its commercial peak after going into a creative decline

 

i fully agree with that, i think that generally most new genres were at their creative best until commercialism claimed them.

 

whether this happened with trance or not is an open question for me.

 

like ive said many times before...i missed dance as it wasnt a genre that i liked. ironically it was the shamens 'boss drum' that started my interest.

 

now its all ok for you scott, russ, tip, to say trance reached its peak in the mid 90's, but apart from russes 3 examples.... where are the rest? as i see it the early/mid 90's were dominated by commercial 'ols skool' dance, eurodance at that. if theres a huge wealth of real trance tracks that somehow are hidden away then PLEASE inform me! id love to discover these sounds.

 

i believe that the commercial charts reflect the musical mood of the time, so to me, as a retro-trance learner what i see is commercial dance/trance being big in the late 90's and not in the early/mid 90's. ok, like ive said, these listings of mine are based on chart tracks so by default will have the commercial end of the genre heavily reprisented. however, in this year, 1999 the highlighted 'all time favs' are imho most respectable (putting it mildly) trance tracks.

 

as i see it, this is like arguing the toss over whether or not the beatles 'hey jude' or 'something' is real beatles music as it doesnt sound like their earlier 'merseybeat' material such as 'she loves you'. its still the beatles but they evolved. i see a very similar parellel here with the trance genre being born out of the acid house/rave scene when groups like the obviously named 'shamen' promoted shamanic rituals to evolke a 'state of altered consciousness' through dance and sound. 'boss drum' (my fav track of 92) got me interested in dance as the old hippy in me was into spirituality and was interested in discovering more. the shamens 're-evolution' pointed the door in the direction my thoughts would take. however, 'dance to trance' didnt seem to work, it appeared to rely on drugs ...lol..

 

imho what later trance did was (as the shamen suggested) use sound to create euphoria, and this is what seemed to happen with later trance. indeed it was listening to binary finary's '1999' loud that i 'got it'... the frequency of the sound reverberated within me which caused a feeling of pleasure... i lost my euphoric virginity somewhere on the m1 !!! :lol: similarly other tracks like 'carte blanche' which had crescendos sent a shiver down my spine. talking with other dance fans (real life...lol) they confirmed that 'this is what its all about'. so yes, behind the 'sharon and tracey' glo stick tracks, there ARE some top real trance tracks into this decade.

 

mushrooms have had a huge part to play in this too... because i LOVED being high on mushies, i loved the person /character i became, and i loved the colours and repetitive beats coupled with euphoric crescendos i experienced. so when i discovered these similar exeriences in music, of COURSE id like it! :lol: . rock music has never effected me this way, only trance, and this is probably why my 'sharon and tracey' music is more tollerable to me, even at the commercial/euro dance end of the scale.

That proves it's $h!t music... you need to be off your tits to enjoy it! ;) :lol:

 

Sorry couldn't resist that one.

 

For a (slightly) more reasoned answer...

 

To my mind the years 1999 and 2000 were the poorest on record since pre-Beatles times. There was a vacuum that existed post-Brit Pop and it was filled with this soulless vacuous excuse for trance that existed at this point. Now I have been researching this as Dance was never something I have really took an interest in but I have dabbled on occasion. I have been trying out some trance records that Russ suggested. Love the Luxor track, and checked out Dance 2 Trance which craps all over anything I have tried listening to from 99.

 

All along there have been brilliant dance tracks. Starting for me probably with MARRS and Bomb the Bass, then moving onto acid house (Phuture and Tyree). Then in the early 90s I heard Trance Atlantic Express and this was a stunning compilation that turned me onto The Orb, Drum Club, Black Dog etc.

Now this was all good and dandy and even commercial dance seemed to throw up interesting records (Oceanic, Bizarre Inc.)

 

Then I went to Japan and I lost touch with it all. It was easier to keep up with rock and indie while I was there and allied to that was all the Big Beat stuff but I had no idea what was going on with underground dance. I heard some drum n bass and JUngle and what I heard was interesting but not enough to make me part cash.

 

Then in 1999 I came back for a holiday and was horrified by what was around. Jesus it was bad.

 

Dance had taken over and I know they are only pop tunes really but christ did pop have to be this bad. I mean ATB!

 

SO there existed a vacuum of bad dance/pop records and p***-poor boy bands. Sure there were some decent records but Indie had torn itself apart in the late 90s and even there it was in a poor state of affairs. Metal was also in a state (nu-metal anyone?) I think the only band that mattered was QOTSA. Oh and At The Drive-In.

 

All I can say is thank god for The Strokes and the rest of the garage band underground in 2001 that made music exciting (for me) again.

Edited April 12, 200916 yr by grebo69

That proves it's $h!t music... you need to be off your tits to enjoy it! ;) :lol:

 

I think miserable gits who were too old and bitter to enjoy the amazing tunes of 99 is my conclusion on this silly argument.

 

Can we close this now?

 

I get a little hacked off with those who think their age simply means their subjective views should eclipse everyone else's with zero consideration of other peoples views. It's rife on the retro forum and it all too often kills the spirt of what this forum is all about.

Edited April 12, 200916 yr by ScottyEm

Oh FFS is the only response to that.

 

Age has got nothing to do with appreciating good music.

 

And of course all opinions are subjective. If you like something then that's up to you. But it's my right on a discussion forum to say what I think even if it is the complete opposite of what you think. And I don't think my post actually denigrated anybody else's opinion but backed up what I thought.

 

And what you quoted was meant to be tongue in cheek.

Edited April 13, 200916 yr by grebo69

I think miserable gits who were too old and bitter to enjoy the amazing tunes of 99 is my conclusion on this silly argument.

 

Can we close this now?

 

I get a little hacked off with those who think their age simply means their subjective views should eclipse everyone else's with zero consideration of other peoples views. It's rife on the retro forum and it all too often kills the spirt of what this forum is all about.

 

 

Oh FFS is the only response to that.

 

Age has got nothing to do with appreciating good music.

 

And of course all opinions are subjective. If you like something then that's up to you. But it's my right on a discussion forum to say what I think even if it is the complete opposite of what you think. And I don't think my post actually denigrated anybody else's opinion but backed up what I thought.

 

And what you quoted was meant to be tongue in cheek.

 

 

calm down, calm down.... grebo, those of us that like tracks from 1999 are a little p'd off when you call the year 'the poorest post beatles year' as the point of this seriese of threads was for my PERSONAL taste to get some kind of solidity. i wanted my nebulous ideas of which were and werent MY best years... obviously 1999 faired pretty well on the back of trance and eurodance. you might not like this style of music, but to others it is quite precious for reasons ive stated (and no i dont have to be high to enjoy it, it REMINDS me of being in a euphoric state when im high).

 

scott wades in without READING or understanding this thread, which is the penultimate in a seriese stretching back to 1960. the question posed was about the seriese, 1999 the year of trance? , which for me in this seriese clearly WAS the year of trance! scott, russ, tip, created a different thread.... its not about which was the best year for trance per-se, it was about MY best year for trance..

 

apart from russ's 3 suggestions im finding it very hard to find trance pre 96 ! sorry but its all 'old skool', it DOESNT fit the wiki definition! plus on youtube theres loads of trance compilations and they are all from the second half of the 90's early 00's!

 

now dont get me wrong here, my 1999 list does have alot of euro dance flavoured pop... atb, dj jurgen, alice dee jay, but i cannot relegate the 'all time favs' here to the 'sharon and tracey' glo stick, handbag section of eurodance. i bet scott doesnt even KNOW the tracks! :P , which for me ARE trance, .... now who should i listen too? a cantankerous, argumentitive scot, or an overwhelming body of evidence that backs me up?

 

remember, this whole seriese of threads was my personal take on pop music since 1960, NOT a definitive one.

Did you really think that this wouldn't lead onto some other sort of discussion in least one of these threads?

 

I completely understand that these are your personal lists Rob. But they are posted on a public forum and discussions will lead where they will.

 

I have every right to call 1999 whatever I like. I am stating my opinion. I get just as pissed off in the main chart forum when Indie bands and records get slagged off willy-nilly, as does every music fan when their favourites get knocked. It's because we are all passionate about music.

 

Instead of my usual just slag things off mode, I thought I gave a bit more explanantion as to why I thought 1999 was awful.

 

And can someone who knows what they're talking about set up some kind of dance retro recommendation thread coz it's an area of music I would like to find out more about but I find it bewildering to start!

Edited April 13, 200916 yr by grebo69

looking back, 99 was a terrible year for music dominated by Geri Halliwell and boybands, and the dance music was terrible, all euro trash! Though there was some good songs about. Supergrass movin Len steal my sunshine. One of the best dance hits of the year was Groove Armada I see You Baby.

Did you really think that this wouldn't lead onto some other sort of discussion in least one of these threads?

 

I completely understand that these are your personal lists Rob. But they are posted on a public forum and discussions will lead where they will.

 

I have every right to call 1999 whatever I like. I am stating my opinion. I get just as pissed off in the main chart forum when Indie bands and records get slagged off willy-nilly, as does every music fan when their favourites get knocked. It's because we are all passionate about music.

 

Instead of my usual just slag things off mode, I thought I gave a bit more explanantion as to why I thought 1999 was awful.

 

And can someone who knows what they're talking about set up some kind of dance retro recommendation thread coz it's an area of music I would like to find out more about but I find it bewildering to start!

 

oh i WELCOME discussion, i dont mind at all, my only gripe about this is that scott altered the premis of the thread... after 48 years of personal chart listing he ignored the early 90's ant turned the thread into yet another bicker about what trance is or isnt! IN HIS OPINION.

 

the point is here that its my personal taste thread, not a defining thread and as the top tracks here are trance then yes, 1999 for ME, was the year of trance.

 

now i fully agree that you can call 1999 what you like, and without the dance element in 1999 it would possibly be 'another 1990' , MY worst ever year for pop music, so i understand where you are coming from!

 

i suspect that scott and tip are not familiar with my 'all time greats' from this year, which kinda negates their view as how can they comment if they dont KNOW the main top tracks? i respect russ though as he clearly knows what hes on about here and like you would wish to have information on retro dance... which what these seriese of threads has actually done for me to a degree.

 

like you im still discovering 'the best' of retro dance but thanks to my family members i did get a start as they love trance.... my sister in particular went to raves and clubs throughout the 90's .

oh i WELCOME discussion, i dont mind at all, my only gripe about this is that scott altered the premis of the thread... after 48 years of personal chart listing he ignored the early 90's ant turned the thread into yet another bicker about what trance is or isnt! IN HIS OPINION.

 

the point is here that its my personal taste thread, not a defining thread and as the top tracks here are trance then yes, 1999 for ME, was the year of trance.

 

Whatever mate.... But put it this way, if I or John were to start a thread saying that the years 86-88 were the "Years of Metal" because of bands like Metallica, Anthrax, Testamant, Exodus, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Slayer (ie, the Metal bands I grew up with, so by your logic, for ME, the 'Years of Metal' were indeed the years 86-88...), you'd certainly have summat to say about it; and shout in our lughole about Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, AC/DC etc, dont say you wouldn't..... I would never, EVER say something so blatantly stupid and just plain inaccurate though, because I actually KNOW better, mainly due to all the older Metal fans putting me straight... Just because you dont know about the Trance Techno and Ambient Trance acts that me, Russ and TiP are talking about does not make the general point about Trance pre-existing before '99 any less valid.....

 

The stuff that came out in '99/00 was utter sh!t by and large, only the very occasional track by the likes of Binary Finary being exceptions.... There are certainly a few good real Trance acts around just now though, check out Infected Mushroom for example.... Fantastic stuff.....

 

And I agree with Grebo, the years generally for music 99-00 were just utterly appalling..... It was only really acts such as Primal Scream and a few others who were doing any genuinely good music round about then.... Primal Scream's "Xtrmntr" album was a genuinely great record, as was Death in Vegas' "Contino Sessions". Marilyn Manson's "Holy Wood" was a good album too.... But apart from these records, genuine greatness was mightily thin on the ground....

 

Which is why I kind of retreated to the underground and started listening to German and Scandinavian acts like Covenant, Apoptygma Berzerk, Icon of Coil and Das Ich.....

Whatever mate.... But put it this way, if I or John were to start a thread saying that the years 86-88 were the "Years of Metal" because of bands like Metallica, Anthrax, Testamant, Exodus, Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Slayer (ie, the Metal bands I grew up with, so by your logic, for ME, the 'Years of Metal' were indeed the years 86-88...), you'd certainly have summat to say about it; and shout in our lughole about Thin Lizzy, Black Sabbath, Deep Purple, AC/DC etc, dont say you wouldn't..... I would never, EVER say something so blatantly stupid and just plain inaccurate though, because I actually KNOW better, mainly due to all the older Metal fans putting me straight... Just because you dont know about the Trance Techno and Ambient Trance acts that me, Russ and TiP are talking about does not make the general point about Trance pre-existing before '99 any less valid.....

 

The stuff that came out in '99/00 was utter sh!t by and large, only the very occasional track by the likes of Binary Finary being exceptions.... There are certainly a few good real Trance acts around just now though, check out Infected Mushroom for example.... Fantastic stuff.....

 

And I agree with Grebo, the years generally for music 99-00 were just utterly appalling..... It was only really acts such as Primal Scream and a few others who were doing any genuinely good music round about then.... Primal Scream's "Xtrmntr" album was a genuinely great record, as was Death in Vegas' "Contino Sessions". Marilyn Manson's "Holy Wood" was a good album too.... But apart from these records, genuine greatness was mightily thin on the ground....

 

Which is why I kind of retreated to the underground and started listening to German and Scandinavian acts like Covenant, Apoptygma Berzerk, Icon of Coil and Das Ich.....

 

oh ffs scott, are you really this dumb or are you being deliberately obtuse?....

 

for THIS SERIESE of threads i used 99.9% chart singles (the logistics of using album tracks would make such an excercise totally impossible) from each year and rated them accordingly, if you did the same and found to your amazement that your fav year for metal WAS 86, 87, 88 then thats what the results would SHOW! therefore you would have every right to claim that IN YOUR OPPINION ON A PERSONAL LEVEL not a defining one, .... that is exactly what i have done here, whether its to your taste or not the facts are that my top tracks (not the whole fcukin chart) are the best trance tracks of the year IN MY OPINION, IN MY OWN TASTE.

 

how tf can you tell me thats wrong?... 1999 WAS MY FAV YEAR for trance.... thats MY fav year... not THE BEST year for everyone!

 

who said that trance didnt exist before 1999? DO NOT CREDIT ME WITH THINGS I DID NOT SAY. :angry:

 

delerium was y2k...you often cite that, telling me to 'you wanna get some delerium m8'..

 

the point is...that whilst trance as a genre kicked off with the likes of klf and the shamen, both who i rated highly (boss drum being my track of 92) the genre evolved away from the shamanic 'dance to trance' towards the euphoric trance typified in the late 90's... now im fully aware that there are several sub-genres, but for the purposes of this excercise like ive already pointed out, i used chart material. now i cant actually FIND any chart material from 92-6 that is trance, however by 97 it DID start making an impression in the charts. so if like you and russ claim there was plenty around in the early-mid 90's , without chart reprisentaion, its INVISIBLE!

 

if i used album tracks then i could swamp 1999 even more with euphoric trance tracks, and no im not talking about the cheesy end of the spectrum, atb, alice dee jay, dj jean who are little more then 'trance flavoured euro dance/pop '.

 

like i replied to grebo, id agree that 99 would have been a bad year for music , if you didnt like dance!