Why the sudden objection to an egg but nobody caring about custard? :mellow:

Why the sudden objection to an egg but nobody caring about custard? :mellow:

 

Agreed.

 

I see where Chris is coming from tbh, but what it comes down to is that Griffin IS a right wing, nazi bastard and will NEVER be really valued by the police in the same light as Brown/Cameron. And for the right reasons.

 

Griffin was on Sky News asking for it to be proved the BNP is evil. Here's your evidence:

 

 

'all this nonsense about gas chambers', 'Yes [he'd deport none whites born here or not]'.. umm, is this a remotley acceptable manner to live? good on the protstors, hope to see many more of this to come ^_^

Edited June 9, 200916 yr by James.

Lib Dems are my favourite out of the 3 main parties, but I won't vote for them at the moment.

 

The fact Gordon Brown managed to laugh them out of Parliment the other day speaks volumes.

That says more about the way parliament operates than it says about the Lib Dems. Both of the other main parties always try to shout down the Lib Dem leader at PMQs.

He may have been democratically elected, but another part of democracy is free speech - people have every right to protest at one of his press conferences. Maybe bottles shouldn't be thrown, but good on them for drowning out his speech and forcing him to abandon it (he'd already been forced to abandon the press conference before the egg was thrown I believe).

 

If the media didn’t turn up to any of Griffin’s press conferences… Then again freedom of speech cuts both ways and like it or not as a democratically elected euro mp he is entitled to speak to the media.

 

If someone threw a bottle in the street at night they’d be arrested in a matter of seconds, although seemingly not in broad daylight in front of the Houses Of Parliament.

 

The BNP at the top of the new headlines for yet another day and a guaranteed media frenzy at the next press conference seems like a hollow victory to me.

 

It’s good to oppose the BNP, as everything they stand for is fundamentally wrong, however stooping to their level will not win any arguments. :/

Griffin deserves what he has coming to him, simple as.... I view him in the same way as scum like Karadzic, Milosevic or Abu Hamza, and they all got what they deserved.... He is a foul extremist, who, if he got his way, this country would likely turn into another Yugoslavia with a type of "ethnic cleansing" taking place, let's not pretend that it couldn't happen here, with confidence in maintream politics at an all-time low and the recession, I rather think that the conditions are almost similar to Germany in the early 30s tbh... The fact that BNP supporters have assaulted a man on the street simply for saying "I'm British too", just proves to me the character of these people and the "party" they support...

 

There was the perfect opportunity to stop this man in the mid-90s, but none of the mainstream parties had the guts to ban the BNP outright.... There was quite clear links from from BNP/Combat 18 to a series of bombings which took place in London which targeted Asians and the gay community, the bomber was a neo-nazi who had been surfing extreme right wing websites such as Le Fronte National, BNP and Combat 18, there was very clear evidence also to links between Griffin and Loyalist bomber Johnny Adair, and again, the "establishment" did nothing to stop the BNP... All the while the establishment was ignoring (well, more like protecting..) Griffin, they came down like a ton of bricks upon Islamic Extremist organisations, and rightly so, but how on earth can you go after one in this manner and not the other...? Griffin has just as much dirt on him as Hamza does, both are "preachers" of hatred, both are extremists of one kind or another, both have advocated violence, both are tacit and ideological supporters of terror.... And, yet, only ONE ends up in prison.... Just who IS protecting Griffin....?

 

It's pretty obvious to me that the only way to rid ourselves of this scumbag is for us to take to the streets as our grandparents took to the streets against Oswald Mosely and his Brownshirts... And if the police get in our way, well, they can get a kicking as well.....

.

 

It’s good to oppose the BNP, as everything they stand for is fundamentally wrong, however stooping to their level will not win any arguments. :/

 

Oppressing the Oppressors is never "stooping to their levels"... It's sensible policy.... The law and the Political establishment has failed to deal with Griffin.. In fact, the Political Establishment royally fukkin up this country has probaby led to the current outcome of BNP getting seats in the Euro Parliament.....

 

Where they have failed, we must now succeed.... The only good Fascist is a dead one....

 

I know this was a serious topic... but

 

http://www.viceland.com/wp/2009/07/babes-of-the-bnp/

 

:lol: :lol:

I know this was a serious topic... but

 

http://www.viceland.com/wp/2009/07/babes-of-the-bnp/

 

In all seriousness, just listen to what this retarded airheaded bint has to say..... I dont think including this link is at all "dumbing down" the thread, well done.....

 

Vice: How old are you?

 

Rebecca: 23.

 

What do you do for a living?

I’m a full-time mum.

 

 

What first attracted you to the BNP?

My husband. He’s been in the army for twelve years, and when I met him four years ago, he actually told me about the BNP and what they were doing. And from then on, I started to support them.

Are most of your friends BNP?

Yeah. Not particularly the people in our area, but our friends are.

 

When people say the BNP is a fascist party, what do you think?

Fascist – I don’t understand that word.

 

Think of Nazi Germany, or 1930s Italy.

I can’t even remember when that happened really, but I’m against them anyway.

 

You’re against who?

The Germans. I know that sounds evil… I was brought up that way.

 

But not the Nazis?

No, I don’t agree with that at all.

 

What’s the best thing about living in Britain today?

I hate Britain, and I want to move to Spain in the next couple of years, ‘cos our country’s not England anymore. It’s very rare for English people to live here anymore. When I went to Lanzarote, I felt more English there than I do here, and that’s no exaggeration.

 

But won’t you then be an immigrant too?

Yeah but the answer to that is I would go over to their country and respect their country. I wouldn’t go over there and try and do suicidal bombs [sic]. The immigrants that come over to this country should be making this a good country and proud of it and helping this country, but most of them don’t.

 

What do you think symbolises Britain best?

Well, I used to know Britain as strong, and over the past couple of years, I don’t know if I’ve grown up, but I’ve seen it going soft. The memory I have is the war, and how we fighted ( :lol: :lol: How the fukk can YOU have a 'memory' of WW1 or WW2 you stupid, ignorant c/unt, you're bloody 23!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: ....) [sic] all the people in WWI and WWII, and it makes me proud to be British.

 

What an idiot......

Oh, look, another choice quote.....

 

What, to you, symbolises Britain best?

Um, I’d say maybe St George’s flag, partly because my favourite film is This Is England – it’s about skinheads, but they’re not really racist, because one of them is a black kid. They turn on him in the end, but because he was one of the gang they’re not really racist. They just believe in what they believe in.

 

What the fukk does the St George's flag have to do with "Britain"??? Airhead doesn't even know the difference between the English flag and the Union Jack ffs...... :rolleyes:

 

God, and we actually let these people VOTE????? :rolleyes:

 

 

 

Sink immigrants' boats - Griffin

 

The EU should sink boats carrying illegal immigrants to prevent them entering Europe, British National Party leader Nick Griffin has told the BBC.

 

The MEP for the North-West of England said the EU had to get "very tough" with migrants from sub-Saharan Africa.

 

Pressed on what should happen to those on board, he said: "Throw them a life raft and they can go back to Libya".

 

Libya has long been a staging post for migrants from Egypt and sub-Saharan Africa wanting to reach Europe.

 

Nearly 37,000 immigrants landed on Italian shores last year, an increase of about 75% on the year before.

 

But with the prospect of a new immigration and asylum policy being voted on this autumn by MEPs, Mr Griffin is advocating measures to destroy boats used by illegal immigrants to reach the EU's southern coastline.

 

'Combating the flow'

 

In an interview with this week's edition of BBC Parliament's The Record Europe, he said: "If there's measures to set up some kind of force or to help, say the Italians, set up a force which actually blocks the Mediterranean then we'd support that.

 

 

Europe has sooner or later to close its borders or its simply going to be swamped by the Third World

Nick Griffin MEP

 

"But the only measure, sooner or later, which is going to stop immigration and stop large numbers of sub-Saharan Africans dying on the way to get over here is to get very tough with those coming over.

 

"Frankly, they need to sink several of those boats.

 

"Anyone coming up with measures like that we'll support but anything which is there as a 'oh, we need to do something about it' but in the end doing something about it means bringing them into Europe' we will oppose."

 

The interviewer, BBC Correspondent Shirin Wheeler, said: "I don't think the EU is in the business of murdering people at sea."

 

Mr Griffin replied: "I didn't say anyone should be murdered at sea - I say boats should be sunk, they can throw them a life raft and they can go back to Libya.

 

"But Europe has sooner or later to close its borders or its simply going to be swamped by the Third World."

 

In May, the Italian government gave Libya three patrol boats as part of a deal aimed at combating the flow of illegal migrants making the crossing to Italy.

 

Italian Interior Minister Roberto Maroni, a member of the anti-immigration Lega Nord party, hailed the first 200 migrants picked up by the boats and returned to Libya as an "historic" moment.

 

But human rights groups have raised concerns about Italy sending migrants back to Libya without first screening them for asylum claims or to discover whether they are sick, injured, unaccompanied children or victims of human trafficking.

 

Libya has no functioning asylum system and is not a party to the 1951 UN convention relating to the status of refugees.

 

'Influence'

 

Separately Mr Griffin, who will next week formally take up his seat in Brussels, has admitted that the BNP has failed to convince other like-minded parties to form an alliance in the new European Parliament.

 

Talks with France's Front National, Lega Nord, and other groups fell apart, with Lega Nord now joining the new Europe of Freedom and Democracy group, led by Britain's UK Independence Party.

 

Mr Griffin told The Parliament.com: "We needed at least 25 members from seven different member states to form a group. There is no doubt that we would have been able to wield a lot more influence if we could have formed a group.

 

"No one was prepared to commit themselves knowing that we had not got Lega Nord on board.

 

"Even so, we will continue to work together with these other groups and share ideas. We will have less access to things like speaking time and committee votes but it's too bad."

 

The BNP advocates British withdrawal from the European Union and an end to all immigration to the UK and last month won its first two seats in the European Parliament.

 

Mr Griffin and the party's other recently-elected MEP Andrew Brons will sit in the "non-attached" section of the Parliament, which means they will be entitled to less administrative and financial support.

 

You can watch the full interview with Nick Griffin on The Record Europe on BBC Parliament, BBC World and the BBC News Channel on Saturday and on the programme's website.

 

-BBC News.

 

 

 

 

the bloke f***ing sickens me.

Hate saying this but I agree with Griffin over this one

 

Illegal immigrants be they boat people or hide under lorries and so on have no place here or anywhere else, they are not going to contribute to society and if they work at all they will work in sweatshops or cockle picking and will be a further drain on an already overcrowded zone

 

While his methods are a bit extreme and I don't advocate killing them I can see where he is coming from

 

 

Hate saying this but I agree with Griffin over this one

 

Illegal immigrants be they boat people or hide under lorries and so on have no place here or anywhere else, they are not going to contribute to society and if they work at all they will work in sweatshops or cockle picking and will be a further drain on an already overcrowded zone

 

While his methods are a bit extreme and I don't advocate killing them I can see where he is coming from

 

Okay, while their may be a problem with overcrowding in this country, what you and Griffin fail to recognise is that it's the West that's responsible for creating much of the immigrant problem.... Propping up dodgy regimes, doing arms deals with oppressive govts, allowing multinationals to go into third world countries and deliberately prevent those countries from developing at their own pace, those same corportations then entering into totally unfair trade agreements which in no way favour the indigenous farmers, traders, etc, and are skewed completely in favour of the corporations themselves ("Fair Trade" my arse, that's nothing but an advertising slogan....), deals they'd never get away with if they tried it on with American or European farmers.... Also the fact that the vast majority of African mineral wealth ends up here in Europe, and in no way benefits the ordinary Africans themselves.....

 

If there is an immigrant problem, then, sorry, but we're partly to blame for it, ALL of us who enjoy the cushy "western" lifestyle is in our own way culpable.... Nick Griffin is an ignorant, racist c/unt who can kiss my arse....

Hate saying this but I agree with Griffin over this one

 

Illegal immigrants be they boat people or hide under lorries and so on have no place here or anywhere else, they are not going to contribute to society and if they work at all they will work in sweatshops or cockle picking and will be a further drain on an already overcrowded zone

 

While his methods are a bit extreme and I don't advocate killing them I can see where he is coming from

Eh? Have you thought about this for a moment? You are a self-confessed Thatcherite so you presumably think British people who want to better themselves should get every encouragement, including tax breaks and subsidies. But now you say that if a foreigner wishes to seek a better life in Britain that should be a capital offence. There may be some logic in your argument but I can't see it myself.

But now you say that if a foreigner wishes to seek a better life in Britain that should be a capital offence. There may be some logic in your argument but I can't see it myself.

 

Spot on.... I imagine so many Africans and Asians dont really want to leave their homelands, but, so long as we in the West keep taking advantage of their natural resources and coin it in, getting rich off the poorest nations on earth, taking their diamond, gold, copper, tin, etc, doing trade deals which benefit our corporations and not the individual farmers or traders concerned, and basically leave them in the sh"tter, then it seems perfectly natural to me that many of them would want to come over here to try and take back some of what we stole from them in the first place.....

 

Seems to me that some people on this forum have never even picked up a Post-colonialist history book in their lives.....

Spot on.... I imagine so many Africans and Asians dont really want to leave their homelands, but, so long as we in the West keep taking advantage of their natural resources and coin it in, getting rich off the poorest nations on earth, taking their diamond, gold, copper, tin, etc, doing trade deals which benefit our corporations and not the individual farmers or traders concerned, and basically leave them in the sh"tter, then it seems perfectly natural to me that many of them would want to come over here to try and take back some of what we stole from them in the first place.....

 

Seems to me that some people on this forum have never even picked up a Post-colonialist history book in their lives.....

 

i havnt! :P

 

but i agree with what you say... im aware that we still do plunder third world countries so we can enjoy cheap tea, coffee, tobacco, and just look at your supermarkets fruit n veg ... morocco, kenya, thialand, india, its pretty wrong imho that these countries are using their land to grow US food.

Sink immigrant boats! By that comment this just shows the BNP are fascists! Then he goes on about "I didn't say anyone should be murdered at sea - I say boats should be sunk, they can throw them a life raft and they can go back to Libya." How can anyone elect someone who could potentially be a murderer?!

 

Sink immigrant boats! By that comment this just shows the BNP are fascists! Then he goes on about "I didn't say anyone should be murdered at sea - I say boats should be sunk, they can throw them a life raft and they can go back to Libya." How can anyone elect someone who could potentially be a murderer?!

 

They're just proving to me that they should be declared a banned organisation....

 

I can just imagine a conversation with a BNP border control guard

 

"OI, you bloody immigrant scum.. Get on that life raft and go back to Libya"

"But, we're not from Libya, we're from Burma, where your Govt is selling our Govt arms to kill us all.."

"Do I look like I actually KNOW what the fukk you're talking about....? Bugger off back to Libya where you come from, you p@ki immigrant scum, or we'll sink yer boat.."

"But, it's YOUR country's fault we're here in the first place, if you didn't support the cruel, vicious regime......

"FIRE!!!!!!!!!"

 

 

its pretty wrong imho that these countries are using their land to grow US food.

 

The only reason for that is basically because we can have things like all year round varieties of fruit and veggies, whereas before they'd be seasonal.. This is "Globalisation" for you mate... Third World farmers being exploited just so we can have strawberries in December..... :rolleyes:

 

This is why I basically make sure I always tend to get my fruit and veg from the market in Camden, where these sorts of things are usually locally sourced (well, apart from Bananas obviously :lol: )....

Africans and the third world should be GRATEFUL to us though for buying their produce even if it is on our commercial terms though

 

If it was not for the west and the rest of the civilised world those countries would be in even more mess economically than they are, many of those nations rely their entire GDP on selling produce to the west, am not personally bothered about fair trade with Africa really, I want cheap prices in supermarkets if I am perfectly honest but every banana, grain of coffee, pineapple we buy that has been imported from Africa is helping their economy, is stopping people from starving as they are working in the fields to pick the stuff to sell to us so I have nothing to feel guilty about in terms of Africa, they should be indebted and grateful to use that we are buying their produce

Africans and the third world should be GRATEFUL to us though for buying their produce even if it is on our commercial terms though

 

If it was not for the west and the rest of the civilised world those countries would be in even more mess economically than they are, many of those nations rely their entire GDP on selling produce to the west, am not personally bothered about fair trade with Africa really, I want cheap prices in supermarkets if I am perfectly honest but every banana, grain of coffee, pineapple we buy that has been imported from Africa is helping their economy, is stopping people from starving as they are working in the fields to pick the stuff to sell to us so I have nothing to feel guilty about in terms of Africa, they should be indebted and grateful to use that we are buying their produce

 

Fukk off Craig.... I suppose they should be "indebted" and "grateful" also for Slavery and Colonialism..... And I suppose they should be absolutely cock-a-hoop about the Conflict Diamond trade as well, eh.....? <_<

 

These are the FACTS mate - African farmers are at a total disadvantage when it comes to trade, by contrast, European, American and UK farmers have protections under law....... There is no way in hell you'd get away with pulling a stunt on EU or US farmers that regularly gets pulled on farmers from Africa and Latin America..... It is a totally one-sided, unfair system which favours the West, end of.....