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  1. I have little to no desire to watch this with Sura gone :( I totally get that she had to go given what happened, but she was one of the few who made good TV and whilst they're all nice people, I'm kind of bored by the thought of watching a lot of them for the next like 6 weeks or however long :(

     

    I sound so dramatic lmao and I know it's not Big Brother it's just a fun cute little baking show, but still.

  2. US

     

    Season 1

    03 Akashia

    04 Bebe Zahara Benet

    05 Jade

    08.5 Nina Flowers

    08 Ongina

    00 Rebecca Glasscock (remember the rumours she was gonna be on AS4 or 5 icr which, lord lmao)

    07 Shannel

    08 Tammie Brown

    07 Victoria "Porkchop" Parker

     

    Season 2

    03 Jessica Wild

    11Jujubee (it's impossible to not love her charisma, no matter what she's doing even when she fails, she radiates that)

    05 Morgan McMichaels

    04 Mystique Summers Maddison

    03 Nicole Paige Brooks

    08 Pandora Boxx

    09.5 Raven

    06 Sahara Davenport

    10 Shangela

    07 Sonique

    08.5 Tatianna

    00 Tyra Sanchez (wasn't her biggest fan to start with but I just can't get past post show, because that's a part of how much I like a queen too)

     

    Season 3

    09 Alexis Mateo

    02 Carmen Carrera

    03 Delta Work

    06.5 India Ferrah

    10 Manila Luzon

    06.5 Mariah

    04 Mimi Imfurst

    02 Phoenix

    11Raja (the pinnacle for me, she is so effortless with her looks and so funny without having to push it)

    06 Stacy Layne Matthews

    -1Venus D-Lite

    06 Yara Sofia

     

    Season 4

    01 Alisa Summers

    07.5 Chad Michaels

    07 Dida Ritz

    06.5 Jiggly Caliente

    01 Kenya Michaels

    05 LaShauwn Beyond

    03 Latrice Royale

    03 Madame LaQueer

    03 Milan

    08 Phi Phi O'Hara (soooo talented idc, when you see what came out about Sharon you kind of have to wonder was she stitched up there)

    05 Sharon Needles (going middle for diddle, can't deny how brilliant she was on-season but as with Tyra, I can't get past stuff that's happened or emerged since)

    04 The Princess

    07.5 Willam

     

    Season 5

    09.5 Alaska

    03 Alyssa Edwards

    04 Coco Montrese

    08 Detox

    02 Honey Mahogany

    06 Ivy Winters

    04 Jade Jolie

    09 Jinkx Monsoon

    06 Lineysha Sparx

    03 Monica Beverley Hills

    02 Penny Tration

    07.5 Roxxxy Andrews

    04 Serena ChaCha

    03 Vivienne Pinay

     

    Season 6

    09 Adore Delano

    06.5 April Carrion

    10 BenDeLaCreme

    08 Bianca Del Rio (sadly have gone off of her a bit recently from being one of my faves, I have a bit more of a tolerance for "dark" humour than some but when the person directed at is clearly uncomfortable and she doesn't care)

    08.5 Courtney Act

    06.5 Darienne Lake

    07 Gia Gunn (so entertaining idc)

    06.5 Joslyn Fox

    03 Kelly Mantle

    07 Laganja Estranja (as with Gia, so entertaining and a hot mess which I kinda loved)

    00 Magnolia Crawford

    04 Milk (liked her a fair bit on S6 but AS3 really dragged that down)

    07.5 Trinity K. Bonet

    04.5 Vivacious

     

    Season 7

    09 Ginger Minj

    06 Jaidynn Diore Fierce

    05 Jasmine Masters

    01 Kandy Ho (possibly the most forgettable queen given how many episodes she lasted, I always forget she was there until I watch the season and can never remember a single thing about her run)

    10 Katya

    05 Kennedy Davenport

    07 Max

    07 Miss Fame

    07 Mrs. Kasha Davis

    07 Pearl

    03 Sasha Belle

    04 Tempest DuJour

    10Trixie Mattel

    09 Violet Chachki

     

    Season 8

    02 Acid Betty

    09 Bob The Drag Queen

    08 Chi Chi DeVayne

    01 Cynthia Lee Fontaine (I just find her SO tedious and one dimensional, how can someone be on two seasons and not have anything memorable other than saying cucu every 5 seconds)

    01 Dax Exclamation Point (one point for the fact that her being Violet's drag mother is my favourite Drag Race fact that makes me DIE every time)

    06 Derrick Barry (often great TV but equally awful on balance)

    09 Kim Chi

    07 Laila McQueen (one of my top All Stars queens, the glow-up would be REAL I just know)

    04 Naomi Smalls (up there with Alyssa as being overrated imo oops soz)

    03 Naysha Lopez

    01 Robbie Turner

    08 Thorgy Thor

     

    Season 9

    08 Aja

    05 Alexis Michelle

    02 Charlie Hides

    08 Eureka

    05.5 Farrah Moan

    07 Jaymes Mansfield

    03 Kimora Blac

    08 Nina Bo'Nina Brown

    09 Peppermint

    09.5 Sasha Velour

    09 Shea Coulee

    10Trinity The Tuck

    06 Valentina (I feel like she is SO fake but she was great TV in AS4)

     

    Season 10

    09 Aquaria

    06 Asia O'Hara (come around to her a bit since the season but not a fave for me)

    05 Blair St. Clair (opposite of Asia for me oops)

    06 Dusty Ray Bottoms

    02 Kalorie Karbdashian Williams

    05 Kameron Michaels

    04 Mayhem Miller

    09 Miz Cracker

    07.5 Monet X Change

    11Monique Heart (her S10-AS4 glow up was THE one, ughhhh I love her so much)

    06 The Vixen

    09 Vanessa Vanjie Mateo

    07.5 Yuhua Hamasaki

     

    Season 11

    05 Akeria C. Davenport

    05.5 Ariel Versace

    07 Brooke Lynn Hytes

    03.5 Honey Davenport

    02 Kahanna Montrese

    04 Mercedes Iman Diamond

    09.5 Nina West

    05 Plastique Tiara

    02 Ra'Jah O'Hara

    07 Scarlet Envy

    08 Shuga Cain

    -1 Silky Nutmeg Ganache

    03 Soju

    09 Yvie Oddly

     

    Season 12

    02 Aiden Zhane

    -1 Brita

    10Crystal Methyd

    03 Dahlia Sin

    09 Gigi Goode

    09 Heidi N Closet

    08.5 Jackie Cox

    10Jaida Essence Hall

    04 Jan (Alyssa, Jan and Naomi are the overrated trinity, I said what I said)

    05 Nicky Doll

    05 Rock M. Sakura

    07 Widow Von'Du

     

    OTHERS

     

    UK Season 1

    09 Baga Chipz

    08 Blu Hydrangea

    06.5 Cheryl Hole (don't quite get the mass pile-on of love for her but lovely anyway)

    05 Crystal

    09 Divina De Campo

    02 Gothy Kendoll

    03 Scaredy Kat

    06 Sum Ting Wong

    04 The Vivienne (one of those where I can't deny she's good at what she does, but just is not my thing)

    05 Vinegar Strokes

     

    Canada Season 1

    04 Anastarzia Anaquway

    07 BOA

    07 Ilona Verley

    10 Jimbo (consistently amazing even when the judges didn't think so)

    02 Juice Boxx

    06.5 Kiara

    03 Kyne

    10 Lemon (ROBBED, I just love her so much, you expected a bitch but you got a warm little queen with such a heart under it all)

    10 Priyanka

    08 Rita Baga

    08.5 Scarlett BoBo

    03 Tynomi Banks

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    Thailand Series 1

    06 Amadiva

    09 Année Maywong

    08 B Ella

    03 Bunny Be Fly

    07.5 Dearis Doll

    08 JAJA

    02 Meanie Minaj

    03 Morrigan

    09 Natalia Pliacam

    04 Petchra

     

    Thailand Series 2

    09 Angele Anang

    07.5 Bandit

    05 Genie

    07.5 Kana Warrior

    08.5 Kandy Zyanide

    02 Katy Killer

    00 M Stranger Fox

    06.5 Maya B'Haro

    08 Miss Gimhuay

    03 Mocha Diva

    01 Silver Sonic

    06.5 Srimala

    07 Tormai

    07.5 Vanda Miss Joacquim

     

    Holland Series 1

    08.5 ChelseaBoy

    07.5 Envy Peru

    05 Janey Jacke

    06 Madame Madness

    11 Ma'Ma Queen (definitely my fave from this Holland season and now she's getting robbed and picked at unfairly it's driving that even more)

    03 Megan Schoonbrood

    -1 Miss Abby OMG (basic is fine but she's offensively basic)

    04 Patty Pam-Pam

    03 Roem

    09 Sederginne

  3. God what a bloody brilliant singles run she's had!!

     

    07.5 Start All Over

    10 7 Things

    10See You Again

    10 Fly On The Wall

    11The Climb

    09 Hoedown Throwdown

    10Party In The USA

    09 When I Look At You

    08 Can’t Be Tamed

    09 Who Owns My Heart

    08.5 We Can’t Stop

    10 Wrecking Ball

    06 Adore You

    09 Malibu

    07 Younger Now

    07.5 Mother’s Daughter

    09 On A Roll

    10 Slide Away

    07.5 Don’t Call Me Angel

    10 Midnight Sky

    04 23 (Mike Will Made It)

    06 fall down

    05 feelin myself (will.I.am)

    08.5 Nothing Breaks Like A Heart

    10 Best Of Both Worlds

    07 he can be the one

  4. They had so many opportunists where they COULD have done something with Tina, but since the Tosh thing (which was ages ago and done pretty quickly too) she's had basically nothing. I mean remember when they made her have that brief thing with Billy rather than bother putting any effort into a lesbian character? I actually really liked her with Sonia tbh.

     

    Can anyone explain why Mick is so mad at Shirley I’m confused ?

    Her being a bad mum/absconding when they were little is why they went into care and the care worker who abused Mick (Frankie's mum Katy Lewis) obviously wouldn't have had that opportunity had Shirley been around, so in his mind it's almost Shirley's fault it happened. It's probably been buried for a while but now it's come back to the surface with Mick having to be reminded of Katy because of Frankie.

  5. It feels to me like they've already picked Envy out as the winner, it's getting very "VALENTINA YOUR SMILE IS BEAUUUUUTIFUL". Don't get me wrong she is an amazing queen but it feels like she can do no wrong in the eyes of the judges, this is 3 times now she's won a challenge and it's been kinda questionable or we just haven't seen enough of it to see if she deserved it. She was as I said great in Snatch Game but the mind boggles as to why, when they even SAID that Chelsea won Snatch Game, a basic literal interpretation of the theme (executed well, I will say) was worth a win over what Chelsea presented with such creativity. It's not that Envy really didn't deserve it, it just boggles the mind how they looked at that excellent Snatch Game and such a creative look and didn't give the win to Chelsea.

     

    Envy is very classic and polished, I think she fits a first season winner to establish the show in Holland, show the country off and represent them around the world. She definitely fits a typical winner and I can't see past her at this point.

  6. Ok the judges were lowkey trash today, I really didn't like how they were towards Ma'Ma and ChelseaBoy over their interpretations of the theme. I thought they had easily the two best looks on the runway, and surely it's a positive point to look at it differently instead of just splitting a male and female look? Ma'Ma was pretty bad on Snatch Game but I'm glad she wasn't in the bottom for that look. If they didn't like the execution of the look, fine, but for the problem to be that she didn't have the male half when, being non-binary, she doesn't really have that male half, was just off for me.

     

    Envy was brilliant in Snatch Game, one of those where I didn't know the character but that didn't matter because she brought her to life anyway, but on the runway whilst she looked great (when doesn't she tbf?), I don't think the bog standard literal interpretation was worthy of a win over ChelseaBoy who clearly won Snatch Game.

     

    Sederginne going is a real shame but based on everything this week... I can't say it was wrong? She fumbled it all really, I did like the idea of the Kermit and Miss Piggy runway but it didn't come out well and that lipsync was like she was defeated and had enough of the competition, just resigned herself to going home :( Not a stellar lipsync on either part though unforunately.

  7. Posted

    So this is a bit of a mammoth undertaking but I thought it was about time for another big rate after the influx of new series we've had in the past year, given we've now had English and Canadian iterations as well as the currently airing Dutch season, plus All Stars 4 and 5 since the last rate to refresh our minds on some queens, and of course Season 12. There's lots to rate and discuss so I think there could be a fair bit of movement within the ranks!

     

    I've included ALL the queens (except Miss Redacted from S12 x) who have walked the runway not just in the US but in Canada, Thailand, Holland and of course my very own United Kingdom. That's a lot so I've split the non-English series less of us will have seen in a separate section, just ignore that if you haven't seen them! I'll also be doing those results separately so as to not skew the results. It's kind of just a "test", if there aren't many rates for it we'll forget about that one and I'll maybe just put the results in one posts for the few who wanted to know :lol:

     

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    As usual, here are the rules!

     

    - Rate the queens between 0 and 10, you may have THREE 11s and THREE -1s across the whole bunch of English-speaking queens, see below for the separate non-English section, but these are not compulsory. Scores in increments of 0.5 are fine, just no -0.5 or 10.5, and no other random decimals of 9.784 x

    - Rate as many as you know, ofc we haven't all seen every season so that's fine. If there's any you haven't seen or a queen you don't recall enough about from a season, that's fine just leave them blank or put an XX next to them.

    - Commentary and discussion is encouraged!

    - You have until Wednesday 4th November to get these in, I think that should be long enough.

     

     

     

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    US

     

    Season 1

    Akashia

    Bebe Zahara Benet

    Jade

    Nina Flowers

    Ongina

    Rebecca Glasscock

    Shannel

    Tammie Brown

    Victoria "Porkchop" Parker

     

    Season 2

    Jessica Wild

    Jujubee

    Morgan McMichaels

    Mystique Summers Maddison

    Nicole Paige Brooks

    Pandora Boxx

    Raven

    Sahara Davenport

    Shangela

    Sonique

    Tatianna

    Tyra Sanchez

     

    Season 3

    Alexis Mateo

    Carmen Carrera

    Delta Work

    India Ferrah

    Manila Luzon

    Mariah

    Mimi Imfurst

    Phoenix

    Raja

    Stacy Layne Matthews

    Venus D-Lite

    Yara Sofia

     

    Season 4

    Alisa Summers

    Chad Michaels

    Dida Ritz

    Jiggly Caliente

    Kenya Michaels

    LaShauwn Beyond

    Latrice Royale

    Madame LaQueer

    Milan

    Phi Phi O'Hara

    Sharon Needles

    The Princess

    Willam

     

    Season 5

    Alaska

    Alyssa Edwards

    Coco Montrese

    Detox

    Honey Mahogany

    Ivy Winters

    Jade Jolie

    Jinkx Monsoon

    Lineysha Sparx

    Monica Beverley Hills

    Penny Tration

    Roxxxy Andrews

    Serena ChaCha

    Vivienne Pinay

     

    Season 6

    Adore Delano

    April Carrion

    BenDeLaCreme

    Bianca Del Rio

    Courtney Act

    Darienne Lake

    Gia Gunn

    Joslyn Fox

    Kelly Mantle

    Laganja Estranja

    Magnolia Crawford

    Milk

    Trinity K. Bonet

    Vivacious

     

    Season 7

    Ginger Minj

    Jaidynn Diore Fierce

    Jasmine Masters

    Kandy Ho

    Katya

    Kennedy Davenport

    Max

    Miss Fame

    Mrs. Kasha Davis

    Pearl

    Sasha Belle

    Tempest DuJour

    Trixie Mattel

    Violet Chachki

     

    Season 8

    Acid Betty

    Bob The Drag Queen

    Chi Chi DeVayne

    Cynthia Lee Fontaine

    Dax Exclamation Point

    Derrick Barry

    Kim Chi

    Laila McQueen

    Naomi Smalls

    Naysha Lopez

    Robbie Turner

    Thorgy Thor

     

    Season 9

    Aja

    Alexis Michelle

    Charlie Hides

    Eureka

    Farrah Moan

    Jaymes Mansfield

    Kimora Blac

    Nina Bo'Nina Brown

    Peppermint

    Sasha Velour

    Shea Coulee

    Trinity The Tuck

    Valentina

     

    Season 10

    Aquaria

    Asia O'Hara

    Blair St. Clair

    Dusty Ray Bottoms

    Kalorie Karbdashian Williams

    Kameron Michaels

    Mayhem Miller

    Miz Cracker

    Monet X Change

    Monique Heart

    The Vixen

    Vanessa Vanjie Mateo

    Yuhua Hamasaki

     

    Season 11

    Akeria C. Davenport

    Ariel Versace

    Brooke Lynn Hytes

    Honey Davenport

    Kahanna Montrese

    Mercedes Iman Diamond

    Nina West

    Plastique Tiara

    Ra'Jah O'Hara

    Scarlet Envy

    Shuga Cain

    Silky Nutmeg Ganache

    Soju

    Yvie Oddly

     

    Season 12

    Aiden Zhane

    Brita

    Crystal Methyd

    Dahlia Sin

    Gigi Goode

    Heidi N Closet

    Jackie Cox

    Jaida Essence Hall

    Jan

    Nicky Doll

    Rock M. Sakura

    Widow Von'Du

     

    OTHERS

     

    UK Season 1

    Baga Chipz

    Blu Hydrangea

    Cheryl Hole

    Crystal

    Divina De Campo

    Gothy Kendoll

    Scaredy Kat

    Sum Ting Wong

    The Vivienne

    Vinegar Strokes

     

    Canada Season 1

    Anastarzia Anaquway

    BOA

    Ilona Verley

    Jimbo

    Juice Boxx

    Kiara

    Kyne

    Lemon

    Priyanka

    Rita Baga

    Scarlett BoBo

    Tynomi Banks

     

     

     

     

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    NON-ENGLISH SERIES

     

    This is a separate section for the smaller amount of people who will have watched these seasons, for completions sake they're here but I'm going to leave these results separate from the main ones! Therefore you get ONE 11 here and ONE -1 but of course there are not compulsory.

     

    Thailand Series 1

    Amadiva

    Année Maywong

    B Ella

    Bunny Be Fly

    Dearis Doll

    JAJA

    Meanie Minaj

    Morrigan

    Natalia Pliacam

    Petchra

     

    Thailand Series 2

    Angele Anang

    Bandit

    Genie

    Kana Warrior

    Kandy Zyanide

    Katy Killer

    M Stranger Fox

    Maya B'Haro

    Miss Gimhuay

    Mocha Diva

    Silver Sonic

    Srimala

    Tormai

    Vanda Miss Joacquim

     

    Holland Series 1

    ChelseaBoy

    Envy Peru

    Janey Jacke

    Madame Madness

    Ma'Ma Queen

    Megan Schoonbrood

    Miss Abby OMG

    Patty Pam-Pam

    Roem

    Sederginne

  8. It's just what I'm assuming from rumours and speculation. I'm thinking with there being more episodes, there will be more than one point where somebody gets re-instated to the competition so the twist will keep going for most of the series. It is kind of like normal but I like that they're forced to fight for their own place in the competition rather than having someone else decide on a whim.

     

    I'm not sure of the finer points and how they'll do everything, I hope it's not one of those they manipulate at their convenience for some bullshit but we'll see, I think it could go either way :lol:

  9. I think it's one of those that depends on who wins them and when the return is, which I guess you could say for most possible twists - it's always good if it's going your way :lol: I feel like I'd find it really unfair if say someone got eliminated on week 1 and got to come back in like 6th place because of winning lipsyncs all along, plus it could be really boring if we had a lipsync assassin who won like 4 or 5 in a row, you could so imagine Ra'Jah doing that and the fandom being fuming that we couldn't get rid :lol:
  10. Honestly I'd quite like that! Would it mean week 2 and beyond we'll have 3 way lip syncs? So:

     

    Silky vs Ra'Jah - Ra'Jah goes home.

    Silky vs Eureka vs Ra'jah ; Eureka wins, Silky rolls over to next week, Ra'jah permanently gone.

    Eureka vs Scarlett vs Silky; Scarlett wins, Eureka rolls over to next week, Silky permanently gone.

     

    etc?

    No I think it's just the two, it was on the Survivor season that fans are using to explain. I guess it'll be maybe that the challenge winner decides who goes, or maybe just the judges come to the conclusion who is eliminated straight up, they could even go full Survivor/Big Brother and have the queens vote (which they kind of did already last season) on the bottom 2. I'd much rather they mixed a normal judges' decide situation with the new format, I don't want it to get too tactical all the time and overtake it being about the challenges and talent of the queens.

     

    I guess week 1 could be a normal lipsync for your life too as obviously they don't have a second eliminee to lipsync against yet. I like that it will be the case that they have to fight to stay, instead of just whinging or causing shit about it, their fate is in their own hands. When they have lipsync for theirlegacy, ofc the queens are going to want the 10k, but I feel like sometimes they hold back not wanting to decide who is eliminated to get blood on their hands, given what happened to Shangela and Manila in previous seasons.

     

    The more I think about the idea, the more I really like it actually! Especially compared to the damp squib of the lipsync "assassin" thing in AS5.

  11. Speculation is that the twist this season is "redemption lipsyncs" which appear to be similar to Survivor: Redemption Island. Basically, the eliminated queen each week rolls over to the next week and will lipsync against the next eliminated queen, and so on. At various points (a couple of times I assume), the winner will, instead of being rolled over to the next lipsync, be re-instated to the competition. I guess that explains there being more episodes, more chances to return keeping the cast bigger for a bit longer? Idk if it's random or at fixed points, it'll be kinda bullshit if production can kinda save who they want at certain points.

     

     

    Idk if that made that clear but like imagine:

     

    Week 1: Silky vs Ra'Jah - Ra'Jah wins, go into next week's

    Week 2: Ra'Jah vs Sonique - Ra'Jah wins, goes into next week's

    Week 3: Ra'Jah vs. Eureka - Eureka wins, goes into next week's

     

    and so on

     

     

    Idk how to feel about that tbh :lol:

  12. Omg I love Jenny, her and Evelyn's scenes were pretty funny and about all I enjoyed last night, this show really isn't great atm :lol:

     

    The new Todd looks nothing like the old one tbh

  13. First season I saw: Season 1

     

    First season: Season 6, as it aired

    Favourite: Season 6, just followed by AS2

    Top 3: Season 6, AS2, Thailand2

    Favourite judges: Stacy and Pangina

    Favourite recent winner: Jaida, her and Trinity are pretty much neck and neck but went for Jaida

    Season 12 fave: Crystal

    Top 10 fave: Manila

    Most robbed: Shangela of those but MANILA, could easily have gone for Jimbo since she deserved at LEAST two or three more challenge wins plus she was consistently not given any credit by the judges,but she did deserve her eliminaton based on what she served in the Ball episode, whereas Shangela and Manila got unfairly eliminated when they shouldn't have even been in contention. Manila affected me more, but at least it was just the format and Naomi being cutthroat, whereas Shangela was robbed by a bitter jury like it was a series of Big Brother :/