Posts posted by Liаm
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I have little to no desire to watch this with Sura gone :( I totally get that she had to go given what happened, but she was one of the few who made good TV and whilst they're all nice people, I'm kind of bored by the thought of watching a lot of them for the next like 6 weeks or however long :(
I sound so dramatic lmao and I know it's not Big Brother it's just a fun cute little baking show, but still.
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US
Season 1
03 Akashia
04 Bebe Zahara Benet
05 Jade
08.5 Nina Flowers
08 Ongina
00 Rebecca Glasscock (remember the rumours she was gonna be on AS4 or 5 icr which, lord lmao)
07 Shannel
08 Tammie Brown
07 Victoria "Porkchop" Parker
Season 2
03 Jessica Wild
11Jujubee (it's impossible to not love her charisma, no matter what she's doing even when she fails, she radiates that)
05 Morgan McMichaels
04 Mystique Summers Maddison
03 Nicole Paige Brooks
08 Pandora Boxx
09.5 Raven
06 Sahara Davenport
10 Shangela
07 Sonique
08.5 Tatianna
00 Tyra Sanchez (wasn't her biggest fan to start with but I just can't get past post show, because that's a part of how much I like a queen too)
Season 3
09 Alexis Mateo
02 Carmen Carrera
03 Delta Work
06.5 India Ferrah
10 Manila Luzon
06.5 Mariah
04 Mimi Imfurst
02 Phoenix
11Raja (the pinnacle for me, she is so effortless with her looks and so funny without having to push it)
06 Stacy Layne Matthews
-1Venus D-Lite
06 Yara Sofia
Season 4
01 Alisa Summers
07.5 Chad Michaels
07 Dida Ritz
06.5 Jiggly Caliente
01 Kenya Michaels
05 LaShauwn Beyond
03 Latrice Royale
03 Madame LaQueer
03 Milan
08 Phi Phi O'Hara (soooo talented idc, when you see what came out about Sharon you kind of have to wonder was she stitched up there)
05 Sharon Needles (going middle for diddle, can't deny how brilliant she was on-season but as with Tyra, I can't get past stuff that's happened or emerged since)
04 The Princess
07.5 Willam
Season 5
09.5 Alaska
03 Alyssa Edwards
04 Coco Montrese
08 Detox
02 Honey Mahogany
06 Ivy Winters
04 Jade Jolie
09 Jinkx Monsoon
06 Lineysha Sparx
03 Monica Beverley Hills
02 Penny Tration
07.5 Roxxxy Andrews
04 Serena ChaCha
03 Vivienne Pinay
Season 6
09 Adore Delano
06.5 April Carrion
10 BenDeLaCreme
08 Bianca Del Rio (sadly have gone off of her a bit recently from being one of my faves, I have a bit more of a tolerance for "dark" humour than some but when the person directed at is clearly uncomfortable and she doesn't care)
08.5 Courtney Act
06.5 Darienne Lake
07 Gia Gunn (so entertaining idc)
06.5 Joslyn Fox
03 Kelly Mantle
07 Laganja Estranja (as with Gia, so entertaining and a hot mess which I kinda loved)
00 Magnolia Crawford
04 Milk (liked her a fair bit on S6 but AS3 really dragged that down)
07.5 Trinity K. Bonet
04.5 Vivacious
Season 7
09 Ginger Minj
06 Jaidynn Diore Fierce
05 Jasmine Masters
01 Kandy Ho (possibly the most forgettable queen given how many episodes she lasted, I always forget she was there until I watch the season and can never remember a single thing about her run)
10 Katya
05 Kennedy Davenport
07 Max
07 Miss Fame
07 Mrs. Kasha Davis
07 Pearl
03 Sasha Belle
04 Tempest DuJour
10Trixie Mattel
09 Violet Chachki
Season 8
02 Acid Betty
09 Bob The Drag Queen
08 Chi Chi DeVayne
01 Cynthia Lee Fontaine (I just find her SO tedious and one dimensional, how can someone be on two seasons and not have anything memorable other than saying cucu every 5 seconds)
01 Dax Exclamation Point (one point for the fact that her being Violet's drag mother is my favourite Drag Race fact that makes me DIE every time)
06 Derrick Barry (often great TV but equally awful on balance)
09 Kim Chi
07 Laila McQueen (one of my top All Stars queens, the glow-up would be REAL I just know)
04 Naomi Smalls (up there with Alyssa as being overrated imo oops soz)
03 Naysha Lopez
01 Robbie Turner
08 Thorgy Thor
Season 9
08 Aja
05 Alexis Michelle
02 Charlie Hides
08 Eureka
05.5 Farrah Moan
07 Jaymes Mansfield
03 Kimora Blac
08 Nina Bo'Nina Brown
09 Peppermint
09.5 Sasha Velour
09 Shea Coulee
10Trinity The Tuck
06 Valentina (I feel like she is SO fake but she was great TV in AS4)
Season 10
09 Aquaria
06 Asia O'Hara (come around to her a bit since the season but not a fave for me)
05 Blair St. Clair (opposite of Asia for me oops)
06 Dusty Ray Bottoms
02 Kalorie Karbdashian Williams
05 Kameron Michaels
04 Mayhem Miller
09 Miz Cracker
07.5 Monet X Change
11Monique Heart (her S10-AS4 glow up was THE one, ughhhh I love her so much)
06 The Vixen
09 Vanessa Vanjie Mateo
07.5 Yuhua Hamasaki
Season 11
05 Akeria C. Davenport
05.5 Ariel Versace
07 Brooke Lynn Hytes
03.5 Honey Davenport
02 Kahanna Montrese
04 Mercedes Iman Diamond
09.5 Nina West
05 Plastique Tiara
02 Ra'Jah O'Hara
07 Scarlet Envy
08 Shuga Cain
-1 Silky Nutmeg Ganache
03 Soju
09 Yvie Oddly
Season 12
02 Aiden Zhane
-1 Brita
10Crystal Methyd
03 Dahlia Sin
09 Gigi Goode
09 Heidi N Closet
08.5 Jackie Cox
10Jaida Essence Hall
04 Jan (Alyssa, Jan and Naomi are the overrated trinity, I said what I said)
05 Nicky Doll
05 Rock M. Sakura
07 Widow Von'Du
OTHERS
UK Season 1
09 Baga Chipz
08 Blu Hydrangea
06.5 Cheryl Hole (don't quite get the mass pile-on of love for her but lovely anyway)
05 Crystal
09 Divina De Campo
02 Gothy Kendoll
03 Scaredy Kat
06 Sum Ting Wong
04 The Vivienne (one of those where I can't deny she's good at what she does, but just is not my thing)
05 Vinegar Strokes
Canada Season 1
04 Anastarzia Anaquway
07 BOA
07 Ilona Verley
10 Jimbo (consistently amazing even when the judges didn't think so)
02 Juice Boxx
06.5 Kiara
03 Kyne
10 Lemon (ROBBED, I just love her so much, you expected a bitch but you got a warm little queen with such a heart under it all)
10 Priyanka
08 Rita Baga
08.5 Scarlett BoBo
03 Tynomi Banks
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Thailand Series 1
06 Amadiva
09 Année Maywong
08 B Ella
03 Bunny Be Fly
07.5 Dearis Doll
08 JAJA
02 Meanie Minaj
03 Morrigan
09 Natalia Pliacam
04 Petchra
Thailand Series 2
09 Angele Anang
07.5 Bandit
05 Genie
07.5 Kana Warrior
08.5 Kandy Zyanide
02 Katy Killer
00 M Stranger Fox
06.5 Maya B'Haro
08 Miss Gimhuay
03 Mocha Diva
01 Silver Sonic
06.5 Srimala
07 Tormai
07.5 Vanda Miss Joacquim
Holland Series 1
08.5 ChelseaBoy
07.5 Envy Peru
05 Janey Jacke
06 Madame Madness
11 Ma'Ma Queen (definitely my fave from this Holland season and now she's getting robbed and picked at unfairly it's driving that even more)
03 Megan Schoonbrood
-1 Miss Abby OMG (basic is fine but she's offensively basic)
04 Patty Pam-Pam
03 Roem
09 Sederginne
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God what a bloody brilliant singles run she's had!!
07.5 Start All Over
10 7 Things
10See You Again
10 Fly On The Wall
11The Climb
09 Hoedown Throwdown
10Party In The USA
09 When I Look At You
08 Can’t Be Tamed
09 Who Owns My Heart
08.5 We Can’t Stop
10 Wrecking Ball
06 Adore You
09 Malibu
07 Younger Now
07.5 Mother’s Daughter
09 On A Roll
10 Slide Away
07.5 Don’t Call Me Angel
10 Midnight Sky
04 23 (Mike Will Made It)
06 fall down
05 feelin myself (will.I.am)
08.5 Nothing Breaks Like A Heart
10 Best Of Both Worlds
07 he can be the one
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They had so many opportunists where they COULD have done something with Tina, but since the Tosh thing (which was ages ago and done pretty quickly too) she's had basically nothing. I mean remember when they made her have that brief thing with Billy rather than bother putting any effort into a lesbian character? I actually really liked her with Sonia tbh.
Can anyone explain why Mick is so mad at Shirley I’m confused ?Her being a bad mum/absconding when they were little is why they went into care and the care worker who abused Mick (Frankie's mum Katy Lewis) obviously wouldn't have had that opportunity had Shirley been around, so in his mind it's almost Shirley's fault it happened. It's probably been buried for a while but now it's come back to the surface with Mick having to be reminded of Katy because of Frankie.
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It feels to me like they've already picked Envy out as the winner, it's getting very "VALENTINA YOUR SMILE IS BEAUUUUUTIFUL". Don't get me wrong she is an amazing queen but it feels like she can do no wrong in the eyes of the judges, this is 3 times now she's won a challenge and it's been kinda questionable or we just haven't seen enough of it to see if she deserved it. She was as I said great in Snatch Game but the mind boggles as to why, when they even SAID that Chelsea won Snatch Game, a basic literal interpretation of the theme (executed well, I will say) was worth a win over what Chelsea presented with such creativity. It's not that Envy really didn't deserve it, it just boggles the mind how they looked at that excellent Snatch Game and such a creative look and didn't give the win to Chelsea.
Envy is very classic and polished, I think she fits a first season winner to establish the show in Holland, show the country off and represent them around the world. She definitely fits a typical winner and I can't see past her at this point.
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Ok the judges were lowkey trash today, I really didn't like how they were towards Ma'Ma and ChelseaBoy over their interpretations of the theme. I thought they had easily the two best looks on the runway, and surely it's a positive point to look at it differently instead of just splitting a male and female look? Ma'Ma was pretty bad on Snatch Game but I'm glad she wasn't in the bottom for that look. If they didn't like the execution of the look, fine, but for the problem to be that she didn't have the male half when, being non-binary, she doesn't really have that male half, was just off for me.
Envy was brilliant in Snatch Game, one of those where I didn't know the character but that didn't matter because she brought her to life anyway, but on the runway whilst she looked great (when doesn't she tbf?), I don't think the bog standard literal interpretation was worthy of a win over ChelseaBoy who clearly won Snatch Game.
Sederginne going is a real shame but based on everything this week... I can't say it was wrong? She fumbled it all really, I did like the idea of the Kermit and Miss Piggy runway but it didn't come out well and that lipsync was like she was defeated and had enough of the competition, just resigned herself to going home :( Not a stellar lipsync on either part though unforunately.
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So this is a bit of a mammoth undertaking but I thought it was about time for another big rate after the influx of new series we've had in the past year, given we've now had English and Canadian iterations as well as the currently airing Dutch season, plus All Stars 4 and 5 since the last rate to refresh our minds on some queens, and of course Season 12. There's lots to rate and discuss so I think there could be a fair bit of movement within the ranks!
I've included ALL the queens (except Miss Redacted from S12 x) who have walked the runway not just in the US but in Canada, Thailand, Holland and of course my very own United Kingdom. That's a lot so I've split the non-English series less of us will have seen in a separate section, just ignore that if you haven't seen them! I'll also be doing those results separately so as to not skew the results. It's kind of just a "test", if there aren't many rates for it we'll forget about that one and I'll maybe just put the results in one posts for the few who wanted to know :lol:
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As usual, here are the rules!
- Rate the queens between 0 and 10, you may have THREE 11s and THREE -1s across the whole bunch of English-speaking queens, see below for the separate non-English section, but these are not compulsory. Scores in increments of 0.5 are fine, just no -0.5 or 10.5, and no other random decimals of 9.784 x
- Rate as many as you know, ofc we haven't all seen every season so that's fine. If there's any you haven't seen or a queen you don't recall enough about from a season, that's fine just leave them blank or put an XX next to them.
- Commentary and discussion is encouraged!
- You have until Wednesday 4th November to get these in, I think that should be long enough.
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US
Season 1
Akashia
Bebe Zahara Benet
Jade
Nina Flowers
Ongina
Rebecca Glasscock
Shannel
Tammie Brown
Victoria "Porkchop" Parker
Season 2
Jessica Wild
Jujubee
Morgan McMichaels
Mystique Summers Maddison
Nicole Paige Brooks
Pandora Boxx
Raven
Sahara Davenport
Shangela
Sonique
Tatianna
Tyra Sanchez
Season 3
Alexis Mateo
Carmen Carrera
Delta Work
India Ferrah
Manila Luzon
Mariah
Mimi Imfurst
Phoenix
Raja
Stacy Layne Matthews
Venus D-Lite
Yara Sofia
Season 4
Alisa Summers
Chad Michaels
Dida Ritz
Jiggly Caliente
Kenya Michaels
LaShauwn Beyond
Latrice Royale
Madame LaQueer
Milan
Phi Phi O'Hara
Sharon Needles
The Princess
Willam
Season 5
Alaska
Alyssa Edwards
Coco Montrese
Detox
Honey Mahogany
Ivy Winters
Jade Jolie
Jinkx Monsoon
Lineysha Sparx
Monica Beverley Hills
Penny Tration
Roxxxy Andrews
Serena ChaCha
Vivienne Pinay
Season 6
Adore Delano
April Carrion
BenDeLaCreme
Bianca Del Rio
Courtney Act
Darienne Lake
Gia Gunn
Joslyn Fox
Kelly Mantle
Laganja Estranja
Magnolia Crawford
Milk
Trinity K. Bonet
Vivacious
Season 7
Ginger Minj
Jaidynn Diore Fierce
Jasmine Masters
Kandy Ho
Katya
Kennedy Davenport
Max
Miss Fame
Mrs. Kasha Davis
Pearl
Sasha Belle
Tempest DuJour
Trixie Mattel
Violet Chachki
Season 8
Acid Betty
Bob The Drag Queen
Chi Chi DeVayne
Cynthia Lee Fontaine
Dax Exclamation Point
Derrick Barry
Kim Chi
Laila McQueen
Naomi Smalls
Naysha Lopez
Robbie Turner
Thorgy Thor
Season 9
Aja
Alexis Michelle
Charlie Hides
Eureka
Farrah Moan
Jaymes Mansfield
Kimora Blac
Nina Bo'Nina Brown
Peppermint
Sasha Velour
Shea Coulee
Trinity The Tuck
Valentina
Season 10
Aquaria
Asia O'Hara
Blair St. Clair
Dusty Ray Bottoms
Kalorie Karbdashian Williams
Kameron Michaels
Mayhem Miller
Miz Cracker
Monet X Change
Monique Heart
The Vixen
Vanessa Vanjie Mateo
Yuhua Hamasaki
Season 11
Akeria C. Davenport
Ariel Versace
Brooke Lynn Hytes
Honey Davenport
Kahanna Montrese
Mercedes Iman Diamond
Nina West
Plastique Tiara
Ra'Jah O'Hara
Scarlet Envy
Shuga Cain
Silky Nutmeg Ganache
Soju
Yvie Oddly
Season 12
Aiden Zhane
Brita
Crystal Methyd
Dahlia Sin
Gigi Goode
Heidi N Closet
Jackie Cox
Jaida Essence Hall
Jan
Nicky Doll
Rock M. Sakura
Widow Von'Du
OTHERS
UK Season 1
Baga Chipz
Blu Hydrangea
Cheryl Hole
Crystal
Divina De Campo
Gothy Kendoll
Scaredy Kat
Sum Ting Wong
The Vivienne
Vinegar Strokes
Canada Season 1
Anastarzia Anaquway
BOA
Ilona Verley
Jimbo
Juice Boxx
Kiara
Kyne
Lemon
Priyanka
Rita Baga
Scarlett BoBo
Tynomi Banks
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NON-ENGLISH SERIES
This is a separate section for the smaller amount of people who will have watched these seasons, for completions sake they're here but I'm going to leave these results separate from the main ones! Therefore you get ONE 11 here and ONE -1 but of course there are not compulsory.
Thailand Series 1
Amadiva
Année Maywong
B Ella
Bunny Be Fly
Dearis Doll
JAJA
Meanie Minaj
Morrigan
Natalia Pliacam
Petchra
Thailand Series 2
Angele Anang
Bandit
Genie
Kana Warrior
Kandy Zyanide
Katy Killer
M Stranger Fox
Maya B'Haro
Miss Gimhuay
Mocha Diva
Silver Sonic
Srimala
Tormai
Vanda Miss Joacquim
Holland Series 1
ChelseaBoy
Envy Peru
Janey Jacke
Madame Madness
Ma'Ma Queen
Megan Schoonbrood
Miss Abby OMG
Patty Pam-Pam
Roem
Sederginne
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It's just what I'm assuming from rumours and speculation. I'm thinking with there being more episodes, there will be more than one point where somebody gets re-instated to the competition so the twist will keep going for most of the series. It is kind of like normal but I like that they're forced to fight for their own place in the competition rather than having someone else decide on a whim.
I'm not sure of the finer points and how they'll do everything, I hope it's not one of those they manipulate at their convenience for some bullshit but we'll see, I think it could go either way :lol:
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I think it's one of those that depends on who wins them and when the return is, which I guess you could say for most possible twists - it's always good if it's going your way :lol: I feel like I'd find it really unfair if say someone got eliminated on week 1 and got to come back in like 6th place because of winning lipsyncs all along, plus it could be really boring if we had a lipsync assassin who won like 4 or 5 in a row, you could so imagine Ra'Jah doing that and the fandom being fuming that we couldn't get rid :lol:
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Honestly I'd quite like that! Would it mean week 2 and beyond we'll have 3 way lip syncs? So:
Silky vs Ra'Jah - Ra'Jah goes home.
Silky vs Eureka vs Ra'jah ; Eureka wins, Silky rolls over to next week, Ra'jah permanently gone.
Eureka vs Scarlett vs Silky; Scarlett wins, Eureka rolls over to next week, Silky permanently gone.
etc?
No I think it's just the two, it was on the Survivor season that fans are using to explain. I guess it'll be maybe that the challenge winner decides who goes, or maybe just the judges come to the conclusion who is eliminated straight up, they could even go full Survivor/Big Brother and have the queens vote (which they kind of did already last season) on the bottom 2. I'd much rather they mixed a normal judges' decide situation with the new format, I don't want it to get too tactical all the time and overtake it being about the challenges and talent of the queens.
I guess week 1 could be a normal lipsync for your life too as obviously they don't have a second eliminee to lipsync against yet. I like that it will be the case that they have to fight to stay, instead of just whinging or causing shit about it, their fate is in their own hands. When they have lipsync for theirlegacy, ofc the queens are going to want the 10k, but I feel like sometimes they hold back not wanting to decide who is eliminated to get blood on their hands, given what happened to Shangela and Manila in previous seasons.
The more I think about the idea, the more I really like it actually! Especially compared to the damp squib of the lipsync "assassin" thing in AS5.
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Speculation is that the twist this season is "redemption lipsyncs" which appear to be similar to Survivor: Redemption Island. Basically, the eliminated queen each week rolls over to the next week and will lipsync against the next eliminated queen, and so on. At various points (a couple of times I assume), the winner will, instead of being rolled over to the next lipsync, be re-instated to the competition. I guess that explains there being more episodes, more chances to return keeping the cast bigger for a bit longer? Idk if it's random or at fixed points, it'll be kinda bullshit if production can kinda save who they want at certain points.
Idk if that made that clear but like imagine:
Week 1: Silky vs Ra'Jah - Ra'Jah wins, go into next week's
Week 2: Ra'Jah vs Sonique - Ra'Jah wins, goes into next week's
Week 3: Ra'Jah vs. Eureka - Eureka wins, goes into next week's
and so on
Idk how to feel about that tbh :lol:
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First season I saw: Season 1
First season: Season 6, as it aired
Favourite: Season 6, just followed by AS2
Top 3: Season 6, AS2, Thailand2
Favourite judges: Stacy and Pangina
Favourite recent winner: Jaida, her and Trinity are pretty much neck and neck but went for Jaida
Season 12 fave: Crystal
Top 10 fave: Manila
Most robbed: Shangela of those but MANILA, could easily have gone for Jimbo since she deserved at LEAST two or three more challenge wins plus she was consistently not given any credit by the judges,but she did deserve her eliminaton based on what she served in the Ball episode, whereas Shangela and Manila got unfairly eliminated when they shouldn't have even been in contention. Manila affected me more, but at least it was just the format and Naomi being cutthroat, whereas Shangela was robbed by a bitter jury like it was a series of Big Brother :/
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