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Nope, doubled down on it and is complete Trump stan trash, but he was always a production fave and tbh still is

Angela Wynter was absolutely fantastic in today’s episode, she is going to nab a Soap Award if ITV don’t cancel them again for having no chance to win. Also why is Elaine so good in scenes with other women, but so horrific with her own family? lol: It’s like two different characters.

This is incredible, her album was comfortably my fave of last year and she’s the most interesting and dynamic new artist in absolutely ages! Honestly I don’t think any artist has had such a striking, unique and assured sense of who they are in their debut era since Lady Gaga. You get the sense nobody else could do what she’s doing, she has such an eclectic vibe that would be a mess if it was anyone else but it all works so seamlessly and I cannot wait to hear more from her. Casual is probably the big fan fave, I see so much too still :lol:

I’ve always said I could see Chapell absolutely going stratospheric, she’s just so so good and has such a unique appeal. She has the gay fave polish, but makes it so widely accessible and pop forward in a way I think will resonate with everyone.

He was super homophobic, I think it was his second season he basically said Dumbledore being gay in Harry Potter was like being a p**** and it was wrong for all these kids to be at boarding school with a gay man in charge

Not them all going on about how Megami was the weakest lipsyncer (Q is right there…) and she ate up every single lipsync :lol: I think Morphine was the right winner in the end though, she was incredible that whole episode. I’m glad Megami got a redemption episode though, as she didn’t really get enough spotlight during the season imo and the fans didn’t appreciate her enough, she was overlooked a lot.

With a lot of characters coming back, idk it feels like they are chasing nostalgia a bit too much and not focusing on what they’ve got. They could easily cut deadwood and still keep interesting characters but with who’s gone so far I worry it could go the other way and they kind of have underdeveloped characters they’ve wasted for the last few years and it would just be a weird balance. Part of what makes HO good and fresh is that there are lots of characters and they aren’t always in the forefront, it’s paced well so you get a good mix of dynamics and storylines before anything feels too stale. I feel like focusing on less people, that won’t be the case? For cuts potentially I’d probably go: Dilly - unless they really give her a stable relationship and set her up, or a business in the village, or something I don’t see the point. She’s just there faffing around the mansion :lol: Carter/Freya - she’s pointless and I think he should have some kind of dramatic commupance, I hope the time skip doesn’t put him with John Paul as yet another doomed relationship. Norma - without Warren, what need is there for her really, as fab as Glynis is. Beau - the Hutchinsons have enough with Ro’s storyline and the other two being older as well with the time skip could provide more storylines, there’s a strong crop of young actors coming up Zain - I’d be astounded if him and Misbah made it through the time skip as a couple and what else will he do really? Mason/Dave - I could make a case for Lizzie given Freddie but I wouldn’t be that upset if she went too, although I don’t mind her Ethan - since I’ve been watching again, he’s been pretty pointless Pearl/Zoe - love Zoe but they really have squandered this family unit at least from what I’ve seen Maxine and John Paul - for similar reasons, both classics but they are the kinds of characters where you just seem to watch the same circles of misery like the writers don’t know what else to do with them JJ/Suzanne - obvious shelf life on JJ, I could see Suzanne leaving Frankie with Darren and Nancy to bolster their family unit a bit There is quite a lot of deadwood but it’s a shame they’ve spent years not developing these characters and then just cut them quite cruelly. I do like the time jump idea as that was really good for Neighbours when it came back, but I worry they will just use it as an excuse to not say anything about how or why people left, instead of the kind of missing pieces vibe that Neighbours had which kept you watching to fill in the blanks of certain storylines. I’d be astounded if Zoe and Pearl survived the cut, especially with Sharon going, I’m not sure they would bring Goldie back soon just to cut her, but they could bring her back to wrap up things I guess and the boys leave too. That only leaves the Maliks and Vicky with her brother and dad. When I look at things the way I have in this post, they’ve given a lot of the non white characters the square root of f*** all to work with lately!

Lalaparuza: Round 1 Amanda vs Dawn - Damaged by Danity Kane Amanda wins Megami vs Q - What About by Janet Jackson Megami wins Morphine vs Geneva - Million Dollar Baby by Ava Max Morphine wins Mirage vs Hershii - Alone 2.0 by Kim Petras & Nicki Minaj Mirage wins Mhi’ya vs Plasma vs Xunami - Milkshake by Kelis Mhi’ya wins, automatically through to round 3 for winning against 2 queens Round 2: Megami vs Amanda - The Shoop Shoop Song (It’s In His Kiss) by Cher Megami wins Mirage vs Morphine - This Time I Know It’s For Real by Donna Summer Morphine wins Round 3: Megami’s name is drawn and she picks who to face, she chooses Mhi’ya so Morphine is sent to the final round Megami vs Mhi’ya - We Got The Beat by The Go Gos Megami wins Final: Morphine vs Megami - Make You Sweat (Everybody Dance) by C+C Music Factory Morphine wins

Plane for me is kind of in between say Rosé and a winner :lol: Like she is very good at Drag Race, but she does actually have a decent polished drag style, and knows who she is. I just think she doesn’t quite have that winner star power. Both her and Nymphia give me All Stars winner, Sapphira is there now, but I wouldn’t hate either of the two winning like I said.

to be the first big axing confirmed, really surprised at that and that means

It’s so funny thinking that Ru wanted Q gone so bad that for the first time since season 8 he’s like nope let’s eliminate someone :lol: It has to be Sapphira to win for me, she has killed virtually everything bar the makeover and that’s only because she had to change the outfit on the fly. It will feel so so wrong for her not to have a crown, as much as I love Nymphia and have enjoyed Plane, Sapphira is on another level as the whole package and an all rounder. I actually think Nymphia might do it now though, this week was the perfect momentum going into the final especially after a lot of her criticisms have been what she nailed this week. She’s also an insane and unique from what I’ve seen online and she’s the only one we haven’t seen lipsync so I could so see her pulling off something crazy. I’d be happy with any of the 3 but I will be gutted if it’s not Sapphira, it is amazing to have a top 3 where any of them really could win though, that’s never really happened in a main series.

We don’t know who wins yet, they filmed both

Bernie is iconic, it just goes to show how much a character can shine when they’re actually given something!

This season feels AI generated, right down to the fact that if you swap Eureka and Cheryl it’s pretty much the elimination order anyone would call too :lol: I do love the top 6 though and I think they all have a lot of strengths so it should be a decent season. I think Canada vs the world is lowkey so unserious and knowing that so many queens said no and it delayed casting, I’ll take whatever form it’s in to see more of Alexis, Eureka, Fierce, and Lemon.

The evil heinous Diane being a TERF is the least surprising thing ever tbh

It wasn’t a fave for me anyway but this is kind of one of the worst revamps like… ever? :lol:

It would be ludicrous for it not to be Sapphira, Nymphia and Plane are great but I feel their All Stars material rather than necessarily a winner now over Sapphira who is the whole package. She’s faltered once this entire time at the makeover, and that was pretty much just because she had to change her outfit last minute! Q is… also still in the competition :)

Elaine having more of a reaction to a shoulder of lamb than any of her daughter’s descent into alcoholism is peak Elaine

Further to that point, the Snatch Game is a Rusical format this time! Not sure how that will work and the only ESL queen is gone by that time, as it’s episode 2, but I’m interested to see. I wonder if it will be like AS3 type Rusical where it’s singers but they pick their role instead? I guess the queens do submit their Snatch Game choices and they have to be approved so they could write something around that. It’s a fairer choice to ESL queens to be able to do that but this is actually a cast that would do pretty well on Snatch Game with Alexis and Eureka being top twice, Kennedy doing one of the best Snatch Games ever, Lemon being a clear second on her Snatch Game, even Cheryl and Fierce did alright and could easily do a little better and be in the top tbh. Also Alexis and Fierce win the ball, and Lemon and Cheryl win girl groups, it will be amazing to see Cheryl get a win on her 3rd season!

I think Plane’s makeover partner won it for her, he gave it everything and really got into it more than the others, and that does count for the challenge for sure but it should mostly be the actual makeover aspect and Nymphia nailed that with the idea and execution. The critique about her yellow outfit I think was bullshit, if there is any challenge to show your brand it’s a makeover and she has ventured away from yellow plenty of times… Plane’s outfits were clean but really basic, which is fine, I get why she won in one way, but I definitely would have gone for Nymphia. I thought Sapphira definitely won that lipsync, it was muted for sure but I love that kind of measured lipsync with light and shade, kind of similar to a Symone lipsync where it might not be the most flashy and filled with stunts or impactful but I just love that kind of lipsync, Morphine did great but we’ve seen that same lipsync from her before.

Imo both queens win on vTW/All Stars where they are called as the top 2, and they lipsync for “the power to give one of the bottom queens the chop”, not for the win. I do think it’s kind of “lesser” than a normal season win though, as there’s less queens and two chances to win, which is why it bothered me a bit when people were saying Drag Sethlas had the best run ever over Keiona :lol: And kind of why track record gays who go as far as using PPE scores drive me insane sometimes because I do think it’s completely different on a small All Stars or vTW season with 6-8 episodes and less queens and say Season 16 with 14 contestants and double the episodes. Whereas say Morphine on the Season 16 political challenge or Daya Betty in Daytona Wind, they lipsync for the win as a little format twist so it doesn’t count as a win.

Agreed! I think anything more is more convoluted and cumbersome to the detriment of potential discussion within the threads

Does thst not exacerbate the problem by having twice as many spoiler threads? I guess a cast is barely a spoiler, and I know when it’s a UK season people will want to see if local queens or those on their wish list are on, but I still would argue the middle ground of clearly tagging them with block capital is fair enough. Or there could be one cast thread for all casting

The way I spent a year convinced I would hate this season bc I knew Tia was top 2 and didn’t like her on UK2, and I couldn’t fathom Hannah winning a lipsync against Marina. I was thinking up all these niche and campy songs they could use that would have Hannah winning :lol: The most gutting fake spoiler was that LGD won Snatch Game and would have been the first to do it in two languages!

I wouldn’t say Tia doesn’t deserve it, but I’d be lying if I said she didn’t feel like a disappointing winner here. Marina was just so next level, killed basically everything bar Snatch Game and the roast (even then, she did decent enough considering the odds were stacked against her) and was by far the best performer and really grabbed this chance to show herself to the wider fanbase which is what Vs The World should be about. Hannah also had the momentum at the end and it kind of felt like she had a bit of a winner’s edit too. This just feels like they wanted to crown another UK girl, I feel like I’ve said it a lot this season but if that’s the case they should just have done UK All Stars. Tia did well at every challenge bar the dancing and talent show but I just don’t feel like her performance across the season stood out the same way as Marina. It feels like Vs The World is an easy crown for an already popular Ru girl and a “be thankful you got to be on a series people watched :)” for the others :lol: Having said that, Tia did have a huge glow up and it’s amazing to see a black queen do this well on Drag Race UK after how they’ve been treated in the past on the show! I did really enjoy this season though, last season was an absolute horror with probably the most underwhelming winner of all time and my least favourite winner worldwide (aside from the two obvious horrors), and none of them really gave a shit by the end so it was a chore for the last two episodes. Here the top 4 really shone, and in the end they all actually fought for it and have a great show.