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    I think Gigi is borderline at a point where she’s “above” coming back, I just don’t see why she would with all the opportunities she has and such a strong run the first time around as well.

    Season 12 is a really weird one, it’s a shame they had a “weird” season the way they did with no proper finale and Covid stopping them touring etc, but other than the ones who have been back, I don’t think I’d necessarily be that bothered by any of them coming back bar maybe Crystal but I think the fans overrate her. Jackie Cox I do like but I think she’d be an early out. Gigi (moreso a couple of years ago), Rock and Aiden (both AS8 and AS10 iirc) I have seen rumoured or speculated but you don’t even really see the S12 girls come up in the casting rumours stages of All Stars funnily enough.

    I think Jan is most likely to come back actually, I don’t mean this in a shady way but I could see her on UKvTW or CanadavTW as the US rep. Like she’s strong enough to do okay but not so strong she’d steamroll and be another RuGirl winner lol

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    Happy she’s back: Aja, Bosco, Daya, Jorgeous (idc), Lydia, Mistress, Nicole

    Why: Kerri, Alyssa, Cynthia, lowkey Liv Lux oop

    My heart says Aja to win but I’d be happy with any of the ones I listed first. Bosco and Mistress both feel so AS winner coded but Aja coming back after all this time when she was robbed blind on AS3 just feels like the right timing.

    21 minutes ago, Calum said:

    It does feel like they're on a mission with Ginger bringing her back again. And either way I feel like I'm not gonna enjoy it lol if she does win then meh, she just really does not scream winner to me, and if she doesn't win she'll undoubtedly be back for AS14.

    I think 4 times has to be the limit for anyone but it depends, 2 or 3 can be enough. For me it depends if they’ve “peaked” or had a satisfying conclusion to their Drag Race storyline. Like Cheryl coming back for a 4th time is an example where I think it would make sense after she really had a glow up and was kind of robbed on CanVTW due to the format.

    And I didn’t really mind Alexis or Jujubee coming back because AS5 was kind of a mess and they had more to give but Ginger had such a good run on AS6 that made up for AS2. There isn’t really a storyline to build on and whilst I do love her and she is excellent at Drag Race, I just don’t see why she is back?

    I’m honestly most excited for Aja, I say this like WEEKLY at this point if not more but she should have won AS3 and she’s someone I never expected would come back. For her to come back with the trans glow, finally her true self and her happiest, I cannot wait to see it.

    Obviously Mistress is a given she had to do All Stars as soon as possible, also can’t wait to see Lydia (initially I was so baffled she even got cast but by the end of her S17 run she proved herself truly), Boaco, Nicole and Daya, and Jorgeous idc, I’d gladly see her do about 7 more seasons and not complain.

    Some of these are very much choices and it feels like they’re just filling up slots to get to the format they wanted, and this could have been a stellar normal All Stars cast, but with the older lesser known names I think it’s just great to even see them again and we don’t know what they’ll bring with 15 years under their belt in some cases. Honestly it’s Kerri I think they are SCRAPING with, no shade but they could barely do anything on their own season let alone All Stars.

    I am loving it being quite wide open, I’m still fairly sure Jack will win but it is great to see a season where there are a couple of valid options to win since all the BB seasons thus far on ITV have been pretty clear cut by the end.

    Want:

    01 Danny

    02 Jack

    03 Jojo

    04 Donna

    05 Chris

    06 Chesney

    Think:

    01 Jack

    02 Donna

    03 Danny

    04 Jojo

    05 Chris

    06 Chesney

    I genuinely think 2-5 could go any way at this point, can’t see jack not being top 2 at least even if he doesn’t win.

    Danny to win for me now, but I’d be fine with Jack. Danny has been totally himself I feel, for better or worse, after a bit of a shaky start, and Jack isn’t the most exciting but he’s been himself too and is quietly very darkly funny, I do kind of wish we saw more of him over the series. Donna would be fine but I think she’s been a bit more one dimensional and I can’t see her having the momentum to win. Jojo and Chris I do like but I have gone off of them over the season, it’s not their fault they were shown so much I guess.

    Chesney: Hawkes.

    That’s what is so infuriating and spineless is absolutely the perfect word to use. The Labour Party as it is now has absolutely no foundations or morals, and a complete lack of awareness that they only won the election because people were so fed up of the Tories and there is little other option. It could have been a real chance to actually have some left wing ideas to change the country for the better, but I had no faith that Kier Starmer would even do it because he u-turns on everything at the drop of a hat. Like Kier and Angela were pictured at Pride not even a year ago, acting like allies, and then the party is supporting this;

    It’s disconcerting that there is just no hope for left wing politics in the UK because Labour aren’t just “Tory lite” centrists that’s just pure doing the same as the Tories now.

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    I don’t see what’s so wrong with Chris, it’s weird to say specifically about Chris that he is from a reality TV background when Ella has done The Challenge and Ex On The Beach plus she is still on TOWIE. He did Love Island the best part of a decade ago and has carved out a career in other ways since. I don't think that him having a friendship with someone else that is quite intense is really worth the drama everyone has made of it, if Jojo was uncomfortable and/or being manipulated then she could and would say or do something I’m sure and wouldn’t have become friends with him so fast and so deeply.

    Some of these housemates are so miserable and I feel like they are so bothered about everyone else instead of enjoying or living the experience. Angelica is utter misery and a huge disappointment especially sadly and Chesney is just dull, both have brought less than nothing.

    I actually don’t mind Jack winning at this point, I do think if he was say a random comedian with the same personality and not David Platt I do think he wouldn’t be in such a good spot to win, but he’s one of the few who isn’t that arsed about everyone else and just enjoying the experience for what it is. Him or Danny would be good realistic winners but I’m still pulling for Ar Patsy. I know I just said most of them are miserable but she is just so unaware of it all in a camp way. Honestly Ella is kind of entertaining too, I won’t be sad to see her go and she is awful really but I was howling at her reaction to the nominations and she is very dramatic which is bringing a lot of the entertainment lately.

    I think Danny is still my winner, he’s not perfect by any means but I do think he has been real, there’s no hiding flaws, as time went on I do feel like he has shown different sides and been multi faceted as time went on. Whereas Jojo for example sometimes it does feel like she is trying really hard to not show anything too negative or be a certain person I hate to say it.

    Lexi had a weird run and I think lip syncing might have given her the right momentum, but she never did badly enough in a challenge to warrant being bottom 2. She also never really did amazingly to deserve a win other than the talent show obviously and arguably the Betsey Johnson design challenge, so she was stuck in this limbo of doing well but not well enough to stand out all the time, but never faltering enough to have that highlight of smashing a lipsync.

    Obviously the iconic Sasha Colby, such a trailblazer and the absolute best representation the community could wish for, one of the strongest and most dominant competitors the show has ever seen. I was lucky enough to meet her last year and she was just so warm and bright and welcoming. For other bigger name US queens, I absolutely love Aja and will always maintain she should have won AS3, Gottmik is one of the ultimate fashion queens for me and I will always have a soft spot for Eureka especially seeing her growth as a person over all the seasons that she competed on.

    Have to also highlight Dakota Schiffer, met her a couple of times and she is absolutely lush, I was just chatting away to her like I was meeting up with a close friend and she has the most stupid chronically online sense of humour which I love, and drag wise I love that she is so attuned with specific periods of fashion and has such a sharp mind for that kind of look.

    And some more underrated or international queens who deserve a shout out:

    Melissa Bianchini (honestly the day she gets on GAS, the rest of the cast should be TERRIFIED)

    Jazell Barbie Royale (surely a matter of time before she gets on Drag Race and it is over for the girls when she does)

    Hugo Grrl (first drag king to win or even compete in a TV drag show, House Of Drag, and a trans man)

    Fantasia Royale Gaga (that is c**t, someone who is very much in her own lane and is at the top of her game because she knows exactly who she is)

    Bernie (one of the most robbed queens ever on PH2, absolute sweetheart too)

    Miss Jade SO (absolutely insane in the best way)

    Asia Consent (absolutely at the top of her game and it’s effortless, she comes across so chill and unbothered and channels all her energy into faultless drag)

    Angele Anang (first trans winner of any Drag Race, with SIX wins to boot)

    Very early tea for AS11 already, feels like it come around a lot quicker due to AS10 having a hiatus in filming..

    Supposedly the same format as AS10 (ffs), but apparently it is like Slaysian Royale where it’s all the English speaking franchises coming together. On the call list there are apparently 6 queens from US/UK, 3 from Canada and 3 from Down Under. There is a discord spiller who said what seasons they are from and also some emojis:

    US 8, 10, 13, 14, 15, 16

    UK 1, 2, 4, 5, 6, VTW1, VTW2

    CAN 1, 3, 5

    DU 1, 3, 5

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    6 hours ago, Envoirment said:

    I think the merging of the spoiler threads works quite well. Also I really like the spoilers as I love seeing what ludicrous things are rumoured early on that unravel as the season goes on. Plus I feel like I get even more invested in seasons weirdly enough.

    I would be more active with the international seasons but there's so many at this point I can barely keep up lol Trying to mainly stick to US/UK and the odd spin-off season here or there (UK or Canada vs The World/Global All Stars etc).

    Agreed! I think it kind of gets me more excited, it prolongs the season in a way because you have that casting process, you have the initial tea, it’s like a little teaser for the season. I’m weird in that I also feel like I have to be prepared if anything drastic happens like a Pangina type elim lol

    Tbh people not watching the international seasons isn’t a problem as such, I don’t expect that, I think maybe where there isn’t a market we just don’t need to add say another spoiler thread for Brazil or some of the new franchises for example when I don’t think there’s a market for discussing it and that maybe adds more “clutter” in terms of spoilers? Whereas obviously when UK vs The World has filmed or an All Stars, there is naturally going to be way more spoilers floating around.

    Crucially I think the spoilers having their corner does kind of give this forum a niche and some life?

    1 minute ago, Calum said:

    Thanks for the insight, Liam. Just out of curiosity to get an outsider perspective as I know you don't really post your own rankings in the threads... do you think it could be worthwhile removing the ranking threads and just having people post their rankings in the season discussion threads themselves? I like posting rankings myself and always make an effort to comment on the episodes themselves too, but I realise not everybody does that like you say.

    On your second point would having threads for castings, placements and such for all different seasons be helpful for those of you that do enjoy discussing and dipping in and out of spoiler threads or potentially be worse? I don't want those of you that enjoy coming here to talk about spoilers feel like you shouldn't or can't. We can keep going with trialling spoiler threads for each version of the show at the moment but I'd hope people that feel it's a problem can come to the table with other suggestions too.

    The ranking threads are fine for me tbh, I just don’t go in a thread if I’m not interested in it, which is how I go for the whole site tbh. And the point of having a subforum and not just a thread in a TV forum is to have different threads for different things so I think a ranking thread is fine.

    And I don’t know why that can’t be the case with spoiler threads. I know the new site doesn’t have spoiler tags which isn’t great but I don’t think it’s hard to just avoid threads you don’t want to see?

    I am fine with how it is with this trial currently tbh, I literally read the spoilers for everything so if it was just one big spoiler thread there’s nothing I would read that I wouldn’t want to. But personally I think having one for each “arm” of the franchise is fine and it lessens threads but doesn’t totally minimise them for those that want to discuss them. And I think that’s better for people who want to see certain things but not others. Like I know some people were curious about AS10 so looked but don’t necessarily want to know anything about a main series, or they might want to peek into a thread early in the season to see the cast but not afterwards when they might get placement spoilers.

    That's just how I’ve always been like I’m ingrained in the Reddit, and I can’t know that a season is filmed say a year in advance and not go and look at what’s happened lol The reason I started posting them here back when I was a mod was because I thought it would bring discussion and I figured it might be nice for people who only want to know certain things to have a place where things were collated, not just scattered on a subreddit or discord server.

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