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In terms of boybands, we've seen JLS and also A1 back in the charts recently, so clearly they can still do well.

She released a 10th anniversary remix of the song recently. It didn't do well in the charts, but it was more well-known than a lot of the number-ones that year (maybe most of them). And I don't mean that as a dig against the popularity of the songs that year, just Friday went REALLY viral. I'm surprised we haven't really had something like this happen since. I think the difference was that a lot of people actually liked Gangnn Style. This meant it could be played on the radio, people were willing to actually download it, play it at parties, etc. If a DJ played Friday on the radio or in a club I could guarantee they would get complaints.

RITMO by Black Eyed Peas was #50 in the US year-end chart last year, which is quite good. For comparison it's about the same as where Ain't It Different and Better Off Without You were in the UK last year. So I don't think it could have done that bad on streaming if it charted so well. I know it's another country but it shows that I don't think it's streaming as a chart mechanic which hurt them. Scream and Shout was also the 25th most streamed song of the year in 2013 in the UK: https://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/t...-of-2013__3666/ This also demonstrates a point I made earlier about alternative songs doing really well on streaming in the early days. Bastille at #2!

Yes, it's an easy solution. Either that or awards by sex like we did before. It has to be one of those two options. Doing awards by gender, properly, would be an absolute logistical nightmare. If we do only the two most common genders, it leads to people like Sam Smith being ineligible. Gender HAS to be kept out of award shows completely from now on I think. We have to divide by sex, or not at all. There's also the fact that people can be genderfluid. They can be a man for a few years, then a woman for a few years, and then back to a man for a few years. There have even been reports of some genderfluid people saying that their gender can change multiple times in the space of a single day, and between non-binary genders. So theoretically, how would we ever incorporate this into award shows?In this time of discovery many people are going through with their genders, it's possible that in 10, 20 years we might one day have a situation where a music artist changes gender DURING an award show and becomes ineligible for their award, or have to be moved categories during live TV. It sounds weird, but given the new things we're discovering about gender now, it really is possible something like that could happen one day. So it has to be by sex, or none at all. Having categories by gender is too complicated.

That's what we've been doing the whole time. That's what male and female MEAN! They refer to sex, not gender. The categories aren't best man and best woman, they're best male and best female. When we talk about dogs being male and female, we're not talking about what gender they identify as, because we have no way of knowing that, we're talking about their sex. Same with historical figures, we can never know what gender they identified as because they had to keep that secret back then. I think it's the most inclusive way to do it actually, because it means all people can be included in just 2 categories, and it helps people of the female sex get recognised in a male dominated music industry. And it's also inclusive of people who wish to keep their gender identity secret or just as a personal thing. It's also far more inclusive on a global scale because most other cultures in the world don't have the concept of non-binary, or certainly have different concepts of gender to what we do in Western Europe and the US. I know it's the BRIT awards, so maybe this last point shouldn't be considered if we want to be nationalistic about our award ceremonies, but the fact of the matter is we do live in a global world now, so it's another thing we might have to consider. I don't know, but I think it's the best solution. Either this or just do away with awards divided by sex all together, but that might result in people of the female sex struggling to get awards, I think that's probably why they did this in the first place.

The BRITS could solve this problem easily. Gender and sex are different. The male and female awards should be for people of the male and female SEX, not gender. And I've been told, generally speaking, that male and female are generally the words used to refer to sex in humans and animals, whilst man and woman (or boy and girl) are used to refer to gender in everyday life so it makes even more sense. I think that's the easy solution. Everybody will be happy and everybody will be included. Even intersex people, because usually they do manifest as one sex rather than the other, even if they have XXY chromosomes or whatnot. If they can compete in the Olympics, which has happened in the past, they can be put in a category in the BRITS in the same way.

All of his songs for years were having extremely low peaks considering how popular they were the time. The only exceptions were the ones played on Capital FM, which is why Find Your Love and Bedrock charted well but Headlines and Best I Ever Had didn't, for example.

Adele is not as big as she used to be. I think Lizzo is probably the biggest one now.

Pompeii was really big on streaming if I remember correctly. In fact around 2012/2013 all sorts of alternative songs did well on Spotify.

Dark Horse was literally THE most streamed song of the whole of 2014 in the US. So I don't think Katy Perry can be included here. I think her career just declined naturally. https://www.billboard.com/charts/year-end/2...streaming-songs

I agree she's probably going to get the year-end #1, but it's not 100% guaranteed. Even with the charts heavily streaming dominated a song released in April managed to do it before.

I don't think it's that similar, because All About That Bass took something like 2 months to reach to #1, with the help of radio airplay, news coverage, TV performances, and so on. It didn't get record-breaking streams after 2 days out of nowhere I think Ariana Grande is more similar. It didn't happen in the UK, but in the US when she released The Way it shot straight up to #1 on iTunes, and there was the same reaction from chart followers "Who the hell is she? How does she shoot straight to #1 on iTunes when nobody knows who she is?". Mac Miller was actually the famous one on the song at the time. Obviously The Way didn't go to #1 in either chart officially, but the "What is going on?" feeling was similar. And I guess another parallel between Ariana and Olivia is that they were on children's TV beforehand apparently.

Well no. Especially not in the physical sales era. But it's different with streaming. I'm placing my bets on Mr. Brightside for this decade. Or if a song even bigger than Blinding Lights gets released in the next 12 months. Or if radio completely ends in a few years that would lead to massive growth in streaming, meaning hit songs at the end of the decade could have a chance. Or another kind of major shift in the music industry could create conditions where songs later in the decade would have a chance. However, if things stay similar to how they are for the rest of the decade, I don't think any song released 2022 or later would really have a chance. Although, thinking about it, One Kiss was year-end #1 in the streaming era whilst being released when it was already about 25% of the way through the year, which on a decade scale is like being released in mid-2022, but that only JUST beat out God's Plan in the end, and Blinding Lights is probably a more formidable opponent than God's Plan.

I think Rihanna is/was the best pop star ever. At least since I can remember. But I think she will underperform, maybe full-on flop if she releases anything now. It's been too long I think. I guess that's my prediction for next year. Rihanna will release music but none of it will go top 10 (unless she collaborates with Drake, Eminem or Calvin Harris again, then maybe).

Nobody says that to Cardi B! She gives a lot more personal information about herself to hundreds of millions of people (including children) all around the world every week! :lol: In all seriousness, yes, I know it's TMI. But giving up pornography is one of my greatest achievements and I encourage others to do it. It's benefited my life greatly and I want others to experience the same. I recommend it as a New Years Resolution to everybody here. :wub:

Around 2015 there was a Bicep song called Gotta Let You Go which was a huge club hit where I live. And I'm not exaggerating, I heard it regularly for about 2 years in many different places (mostly at raves). Maybe it was just the same DJ playing it everywhere, I don't know, but it's true.

I haven't seen anybody complain about the lyrics to WAP? I know a lot of people who think the song is disgusting, but there are hit songs which get a similar kind of reception every year, it's nothing unusual, and they never get banned. Fairytale of New York is being accused of being homophobic (which it obviously isn't btw). It's a different situation I've never actually heard anyone complain about EITHER Fairytale of New York or WAP. It's just rich and famous people on the TV and the radio (and journalists) who are complaining one is unacceptable in this day and age and the other one is powerful and empowering. It's pathetic. Both are fine in my opinion. But WAP isn't anything revolutionary and FONY isn't homophobic.

You haven't told the full story. It went like this: 1. A rumour came out of nowhere from an "insider" that the song was not going to be played, because it is considered racist. 2. A lot of people get really angry about it on the Internet. 3. THEN, after the backlash, an official statement is made, where they say that they will play the instrumental version (and with vocals in future years), and they say that the reason is not because it is racist, but because of coronavirus. People with certain political views believe that they are lying and would have completely left it out had it not been for the leak and resulting public outrage, forcing them to make a compromise. Most of these people don't believe the official statement and they believe they will try and remove it in future years, if they can get away with it with less backlash next time. People with certain other political views believe the leak was completely false and they believe the official statement that it is just due to coronavirus and it will be back as normal in the future. Who knows the truth. I am not arrogant enough to claim I know the real truth of what happened here. I will keep an open mind.

I listened to this song when it came out too. It's fantastic.

The chart is basically what the number-ones would be if every song became inelligable for the chart after hitting #1.

How is it even possible that a 15 year-old boy can be making pop songs for major pop stars? Are his parents working for record companies? Or did he go to the BRIT school?

I know there's like 20 of them, but this is now the 3rd person from Glee Cast to pass away? And they were all pretty young too. And maybe there's another case of a pop group having multiple early deaths but I would assume that it's likely to to one incident like a plane crash, rather than 3 seperate incidents like this.

I would call them pop stars. Definitely Leona Lewis, Jessie J and Jess Glynne. With those American pop stars you talk about, they've been specifically trained and groomed since childhood to be pop stars. A lot of people don't know this, but it's true.

What do you mean? Her fans were astronomically annoying. They were much worse than even Justin Bieber fans.

About Ulrika, the producers clearly have a huge amount of favouritism towards her. Firstly they paid her a huge amount of money to go in the house, secondly she was a pretty non-eventful housemate but they act like she's an iconic one, and thirdly she managed to win even though the public never seemed to have a strong opinion of her (I suspect there were some dodgy things going on behind the scenes to get her to win but I can't prove this). They could just show everything Makosi did and it would be fantastic. But a lot of the show can't be shown today. For example in BB7 there was a transgender girl in the house but half the housemates insisted of calling her "he", and made cruel jokes about her. Including Nikki, in fact she was probably the worse one for this. This passed a lot of people by at the time, but if this was shown today she'd become a very hated public figure. Same with Rex, he'd be considered extremely misogynistic and sexist if his series was shown today. Like how he was calling Sara a $l*t, or how he wouldn't let Nicole wear high heels because she wasn't allowed to be taller than him, or how he used to tease Bex for being fat. The accusation was levelled at the time, but people didn't care so much in those days. A lot of the most liked housemates wouldn't be liked in today's social climate. I don't even know if BB could work today, they'd have to be ejecting someone every week for some kind of bigotry.