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Tom Odell to become the new Cat Bruns. :lol: You've got 1,111 posts atm!

Moves Like Jagger was actually a held-back release itself. It was released here probably the standard 2-3 months after it was released in other countries, and got pre-release airplay on Radio 2 and a some small local stations.

There's Rihanna's song Right Now from 2013 (I think), it says "ft. David Guetta" but then I found out it is actually a Nicky Romero song and they just put his name on it. But I wouldn't be surprised if a LOT of chart music isn't written or produced (or possibly even sung) by who they say they are. You can easily lie about a pop star writing their own music and nobody can question it because nobody is ever actually there when the songs are made, and there are millions of people who would be willing to be ghost-writers. You won't be famous but you'll still be given loads of money and will have a life of luxury for agreeing to go along with it.

I don't see how it would hurt them in anyway. This happened to Adele, she had a song from her 1st album become a hit a few months before she released her 2nd album and it became one of the most successful albums of all time.

I have no idea. Maybe Madonna and Miley Cyrus spamming it on Youtube. :lol: kCkwYuoqnyo ZiBaQA0XHyg In all seriousness probably the CDs got released later after the downloads, and the music video, and increasing airplay. Also, is your username after the Janet Jackson song? I liked that song when it came out.

Well 4 Minutes debuted at #8 I think so it'll probably be off to a better start than that at least. :lol:

NIt3PM5DF_c Watch the bit after 3:08 in this video. :lol:

Scream & Shout would have definitely been top 10 on UK Spotify. I doubt Work Bitch or any of her 2011 songs would have been though.

Are the OCC ever going to reset 505? It clearly deserves one by now. It's not ever been top 40 before and to say its popularity is sustained is an understatement. :lol:

They played it even at the time, even outside of chart shows. It just wasn't very much, maybe once every few days.

Billboard have a list of like 50 club DJs who list their most-played songs in the past week and they combine all the lists to make the chart. That's how it's supposed to work, but one of the DJs who contributes to the chart revealed that most of the DJs don't list what they truly play. The list songs that they like and also record labels pay the DJs to rank certain songs high on certain weeks. And they try and organise it so they have as many different #1s as possible. A similar thing happens with the US country airplay charts. Although that chart is based on actual spins/audience estimates so the radio stations actually have to boost their plays of the chosen song each week, whilst in the Dance/Club charts the DJs just havr to report that they played them. And the Country Airplay chart thing isn't a conspiracy theory, it's well known this happens. The Dance/Club chart is a bit of fun but I wouldn't read too much into it. I don't think it should be included in Wikipedia articles really, considering what we know. And if you look at the charts and the nimber-ones historically it is obvious it's not real. A real chart based on club play would be the slowest chart that exists. A song like Yeah! by Usher would probably have been in the chart permanently since it came out, for example.

Have we seen any case of a song getting a big boost in streams after being added to Radio 1's playlist? It seems to me that their impact on the charts is negligible now. Their playlist did used to matter before streaming completely took over.

The thing is that Don't Play Nice and Champagne Showers were both at the low end of the top 200 in the year-end charts. So I would say they were roughly equal sized hits. Obviously Champagne Showers following on from Party Rock Anthem could/should have been a lot bigger, but if you ignore that then I don't think there's that much difference between them (certainly not a "hit" and "flop" sized difference). Someone did a countdown on here of all the follow-up singles of #1 hits that missed the top 20, and Champagne Showers was actually one of the best performing of the whole bunch. Natalia Kills became famous in the end because of the X Factor scandal though. :lol: I've actually researched into this incident a lot and I'm 99% sure now that she was set up. X Factor was absolutely brutal like that, they care only about their ratings.

Believe it or not record labels actually do use reception in clubs as tools to know what artists/songs to promote and even for new artists to sign. They send A&R scouts out to random clubs, concerts, live performances, etc. To see what songs and artists are being played and what reception they get. So if there was one at your club last night he'll be reporting that back to the label It sounds like the best job ever to me. :lol:

Well, "nobody" is an exaggeration of course, but this is the pattern with a lot of mega hits. I remember songs like Call Me Maybe and Somebody That I Used To Know acted like this at the beginning. If a song shoots up the charts just from 1 play on Radio 1 or one viral YouTube video that has 1 million views, or even Glastonbury. Those are small audiences, probably a couple of million people know the song so far. Imagine when 30 million people have heard the song. It's different with something like Green Green Grass for example. It's certainly smashing, but it's been exposed to tens of millions of people by now. It's been on big TV events, all over the radio, etc, so I wouldn't say for a certainty it will ever get to #1 (or much higher than it already has). But surely not many people can have heard BOTA yet, but since the few (million) who have are responding like this I think it's a surefire #1 really.

BOTA is probably going to be #1 until October if it's gaining this fast with nobody knowing the song yet.

Only 15 of the top 40 in the singles as well. And in the top 10 only As It Was was released in 2022. #2 to #10 were all released on 2021 apparrently.

Do you have the numbers by month? I want to compare it to the distribution of birthdays in the general population and see if there are any meaningful differences. 2,000 is a very good sample size for this kind of thing.

I was a fan of Gecko for a long time before the vocal mix came out as well. The instrumental version was a staple at clubs and raves around me for about 6 months before it got to #1. It's probably why they decided to give it a mainstream release because they knew from the early response that it would be a hit if it got on the radio. Pretty much the exact same thing happened with KDA - Rumble.

Ruth Lorenzo hasn't been in the charts since 2014?

Also Ella Henderson has actually had a hit song in the US before but it didn't make top 10 but had a long chart run.

I can't find anything about Fist Aid Kit either except that you can buy them for £10.99 on Amazon. You can probably buy Madonna or Cardi B for cheaper.

I reckon it's probably happened in a small country in the earlier days of Spotify because with lower numbers ties are more common.

I think Cher is Armenian. She had a lot of hits and also one of the biggest hits of all time. Also, they're not pop stars, but Ana Kasparian, Anita Sarkeesian and Kim Kardashian (and a bunch of her family) are also Armenian. And I've probably spelt all their surnames wrong, but maybe that's why Cher didn't use her surname. Apparently if you're Armenian your surname has to be a minimum of 4 syllables long. :lol:

The peak year for downloads was 2012 or 2013. I can't remember which but one of those two. The actual peak was around summer 2013 when they were frankly enormous, and then one week, all of a sudden they took a massive decline and they kept falling ever since. And nobody knows why. One of the biggest mysteries in pop music ever in my opinion. Also I don't know why people are surprised about Poker Face. I remember it was always like 100,000 ahead of Bad Romance in the download days. In the United States even Just Dance outsold Bad Romance by a big margin. The media attention for her outfits helped an incredible amount for Just Dance and Poker Face. She had newspaper articles written about her EVERY day in early 2009 because of whatever silly outfit she wore the previous day. And this was back before smartphones so physical newspapers were still a very common thing, on every train, bus, in every office, waiting room, bank, etc. It was fantastic promotion and meant that older people who had no interest in current pop music at the time knew who she was, but this all had already died down a lot by later part of the year when Bad Romance was out.