Fruity
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Hi There
Welcome to the forum firstly.
To take your points in turn:
1- Madonna, I am aware of the list you mention, as I mentioned at the start of the thread my figures will differ from the OCC list as in doing this I have come to the conclusion that for acts before the OCC era (i.e pre 1994) they have used either shipment figures or record company figures for acts before that period. In the 80s she sold 7.4 million we know this as Gallup gave us the figures yearly for her sales and this is what it adds up to, similarly in the 90s she sold just over 5 million (this is using the higher multiplier for 94-96) this is again pulled from year end charts so we know it to be true. Her 00s sales come to 3.1 million- again we know this from her position in the list of best selling acts for the decade (there is some scope for movement but not too much)- this makes it 15.5 million up to 2009.
This decade, as you know, she's had 4 hits which have charted for 9 weeks in total, and thanks to regular updates we know that she isn't selling huge amounts of her back catalogue so the question really is how could have sold another 3 million in 3 years by the end of 2012?
2- Rihanna- as I noted in my write up the OCC stated her sales in March 2014 as 18.7 million so if you find this troublesome then you may want to ask the OCC. Here's the link to the sales post that week http://www.buzzjack.com/forums/index.php?s...t=0&start=0 I believe the 2012 figure did not include any collaborations where she was not the lead act- this is how they usually operate but I include all sales.
3- Kylie- as with Madonna I can't get it to over the ten million mark- we can account for 8.1 million to the end of 2009. We know she sold 522k in 2010 which only leaves "Higher" plus some minor hits to consider.
4- Whitney- much the same- it all relates to pre-OCC information and where they obtain it from- she makes 6.9 million to 2009 which is available to "evidence"
5- Lady Gaga- MW gave us a figure of 7.6 million in August 2013.
Finally- this list goes up to the end of 2013- you may have misinterpreted the time frame in addition to your other points.
Well explained B-) So basically the list in question overestimated the pre OCC era for Madonna and Kylie.
And you are definitely right that they didnt include collab numbers for Rihanna.
Thanks for the countdown, really interesting!
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However We Found Love is the most dubious lead artist crediting of all time. That song is Calvin's through and through.
Sure you can give him credit for the awesome production, but she still made it the huge hit it was.
I mean, Rihanna was coming off the Loud era with with like 7 top 10s in the past year.
Let's just say if the song had gone to Leona Lewis (as originally intended) with the same production, it probably wouldn't be one of the defining songs of the 2010s.
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A lot of Rihanna's big hits were features which will account for a lot of sales which was a good structure in her management. Maybe her having so many features makes me feel like she had less stand alone hits like others on the high end of the list.
This is literally not true AT ALL though.
Until the end of 2013 Rihanna had 21 top 5 hits of which 17 she was the lead artist. ie. only 4 were collabs.
She also had 4 million sellers and LTWYL was the only collab in there.
Rihanna is easily the biggest hit maker of her generation/the 21st century.
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Favourite songs with Door or Wheel in the title
in UK Charts