GreyAsh

This ⬆️ But this is the closest they’ve been to last year’s figures.

Agreed. Poptastic

Was The River number 2 on the Christmas Chart behind Perfect? Or did it debut a week later?

Ed has had a number 3. He’s in the Christmas number 3 rate, as is John Lennon and Paul McCartney

How many people have completed the medal positions of the Christmas chart either with the same song or different songs ? I assume ‘Last Christmas’ is the only song to have done it by itself. Ed Sheeran must have had several Christmas number 1s, 2s and 3s - does anyone know his full list? Have any of the Beatles done it - and if so, have any of them done it without the Beatles tracks? Kylie is on track to achieve this rare feat.

🤣🤣🤣🤣 but it’s true, it’s not false news. Just because the OCC haven’t announced it, doesn’t mean it’s false.

Yes. They would have done. I made a post about it on Facebook that has been picked up by others and shared as their own (but it also shows you how quickly rumours can spread).

I’m trying to get my head around what you are saying here. I guess the important point is (and this goes against something someone said later on the thread) George Michael is a person whose fanbase still mobilises to buy physical products. Like Kylie, he has a very large and committed fanbase in the UK.

If it was done as a request, wouldn’t it need to be done before the start of the chart week, rather than an increase related reset? Anyway, the OCC have already indicated that they want Kylie to be Number 1 apparently, so they’d refuse, and on good grounds.

Just realised I said somewhere it was going to be a battle between Kylie and Brenda to be number 3 on the streaming chart. Of course that’s not true 🤦🏼‍♂️ Brenda’s streams won’t be halved on the streaming chart - so she will have double Kylie. But still, I hope we find out how their streams compare.

Unfortunately it’s up to Spotify and Amazon. The fans have suggested this to me many times, and I’ve explained it’s just not feasible.

Yes - it was meant as an ironic question, or as a ‘Will she make it?’

But it will mean a lot to George’s huge fanbase and to his record label and Wham! bandmates (Andrew, Pepsi & Shirlie).

Has Cher fallen out of the top 40? 🥺

Who will be the first woman to have number 1s in 4 decades? It’s a shame that Kylie didn’t have a number 1 in the 2010s!

‘Let’s be honest.’ I love ‘XMAS’. You are dressing your opinion up as fact.

‘Last Christmas’ should remain top 40 this year, so I imagine Kylie might as well.

Kylie’s streaming sales this week will be roughly on a par with Brenda’s last year. So I feel the two of them will be battling it out for 3rd place in the streaming chart this week. And next week it could go either way: on the one hand Christmas classics might do better, on the other hand Amazon exclusives will take more of a priority (as discussed on countless occasions).

It looks like we have an outcome already. Even with no more sales, Kylie should be on 48.5k at the end of the week. My current estimate for Wham! is around 44.8k - at any rate between 44k and 47k. Even with my highest estimates, Wham! would have no more than 49k or 50k really pushing it. I don’t see any way that they can catch her now.

They seem to have done so last week.

It was the downloads. She got as many downloads yesterday as the rest of the week combined! (Just under 3,000). Unless her record company has only just announced its downloads.

Easily? They might take it, but if they do, I imagine it will be close. At present, as of yesterday, they were showing no signs of being able to catch up with Kylie. Last year they got 53k apart from physicals. They are down at least 6-10% on last year so 50k really would be their max - and Kylie is currently headed for around 49k.

There are two charts, but one of them is fairly irrelevant, because it puts several versions of each song in, and therefore, for example, Mariah is comparatively low. The other chart you can only find if you have Amazon Music membership.

I guess the reason is, people often start on track one and then press shuffle. We’ve seen the way that when random Christmas songs are placed high up, they suddenly do well in the charts, and then plummet afterwards, for example ‘Sleigh Ride’. And Mariah has been really struggling this year now that the number 1 position changes twice a week. Minor changes like this have a small but significant impact. And Wham! overtook Mariah on Spotify (I can’t remember if that was globally or in the US) straight after they were moved to the top of the playlist. The stories are endless.

Probably. But it’s always made a massive impact on daily charts globally, in the UK and US. And Kylie and Wham! are neck and neck at present - both aiming for around 49k. I’d say Kylie has the edge but we will know better today.