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I know it is a long way off at the moment but which song do we feel has the potential to go Silver (200,000) over time? Windows, Brand New Sun, This Life, You and Me, All Wrapped Up. ?

Two in a Million, the other one has dropped from radio stations and forgotten about outside their fandom.

Take That Take That & Party (1992) - 600,000 A Million Love Songs: 400,000 Could It Be Magc: 200,000 Total: 1.2 million. Everything Changes (1993) - 1.2 million Why Can't I Wake Up With You: 200,000 Pray: 400,000 Relight My Fire: 400,000 Babe: 600,000 Everything Changes: 400,000 Love Ain't Here Anymore: 200,000 Total: 3.4 million Nobody Else (1995) - 600,000 Sure: 200,000 Back For Good: 1.2 million Never Forget: 600,000 Total: 2.6 million Greatest Hits (1996) - 1.2 million How Deep Is Your Love: 600,000 Total: 1.8 million Never Forget: The Ultimate Collection (2005) - 2.4 million Total: 2.4 million Beautiful World (2006) - 2.7 million Patience: 1.2 million Shine: 1.2 million Rule The World: 1.8 million Total: 6.9 million The Platinum Collection (2006) - 60,000 Total: 60,000 The Circus (2008) - 2.1 million Greatest Day: 600,000 Up All Night: 200,000 Said It All: 200,000 Total: 3.1 million The Greatest Day - Take That Present: The Circus Live (2009) - 300,000 Total: 300,000 Progress (2010) - 2.4 million The Flood: 600,000 Kidz: 200,000 Total: 3.2 million Progress Live (2011) - 100,000 Total: 100,000 III (2014) - 300,000 These Days: 600,000 Total: 900,000 Wonderland (2017) - 100,000 Cry: 200,000 Giants: 200,000 Total: 500,000 Odyssey (2018) - 300,000 Total: 300,000 This Life (2023) - 100,000 Total: 100,000 Westlife Westlife (1999) - 1.5 million Swear It Again: 600,000 If I Let You Go: 600,000 Flying Without Wings: 600,000 I Have A Dream/Seasons In The Sun: 600,000 Fool Again: 200,000 Total: 4.1 million Coast To Coast (2000) - 1.8 million Against All Odds: 400,000 My Love: 400,000 What Makes A Man: 400,000 Total: 3 million World Of Our Own (2001) - 1.2 million Uptown Girl: 1.2 million Queen Of My Heart: 400,000 When You're Looking Like That: 400,000 World Of Our Own: 600,000 Bop Bop Baby: 200,000 Total: 4 million Unbreakable - The Greatest Hits Volume 1 (2002) - 1.8 million Unbreakable: 200,000 Total: 2 million. Turnaround (2003) - 600,000 Mandy: 200,000 Total: 800,000 ...Allow Us To Be Frank (2004) - 600,000 Total: 600,000 Face To Face (2005) - 1.2 million You Raise Me Up: 600,000 Total: 1.8 million The Love Album (2006) - 900,000 The Rose: 200,000 Total: 1.1 million Back Home (2007) - 900,000 Home: 200,000 Total: 1.1 million Where We Are (2009) - 600,000 What About Now: 400,000 Total: 1 million Gravity (2010) - 300,000 Total: 300,000 Greatest Hits (2011) - 900,000 Total: 900,000 Spectrum (2019) - 100,000 Hello My Love: 600,000 Better Man: 200,000 Total: 900,000 Wild Dreams (2021) - 100,000 Total: 100,000 Final Table 1.Beautiful World (2006) Take That - 6.9 million. 2.Westlife (1999) Westlife - 4.1 million. 3.World Of Our Own (2001) Westlife - 4 million. 4.Everything Changes (1993) Take That - 3.4 million. 5.Progress (2010) Take That - 3.2 million. 6.The Circus (2008) Take That - 3.1 million. 7.Coast To Coast (2000) Westlife - 3 million. 8.Nobody Else (1995) Take That - 2.6 million. 9.Never Forget: The Ultimate Collection (2005) Take That - 2.4 million. 10.Unbreakable - The Greatest Hits Volume 1 (2002) Westlife - 2 million.

That is true. However, I still think it is fantastic that they are now going to new places to perform. As people say, it's better late than never. It also gives them more of an idea for potential future arrangements.

They are touring Europe, Middle East, and Australia for the album: 'This Life' More potentially to follow. Below is the year they last toured in that continent and country: Asia: Indonesia: 1995. Japan: 1995. Singapore: 2016. Taiwan: 2007. Europe: Austria: 2019. Czech Republic: Never. Denmark: 2023. Germany: 2019. Hungary: Never. Ireland: 2019. Italy: 2019. Malta: Never. Poland: Never. Portugal: Never. Slovakia: Never. Spain: 2007. Switzerland: 2019. Middle East: United Arab Emirates (UAE): 2017. Oceania: Australia: 2017. However these are the gigs they have had to cancel: Finland (2023), New Zealand, South Africa. *realised I posted this in wrong thread so have moved it.

Would be nice if Howard made the studio version of 'Speak Without Words' available.

They are playing their first ever shows in Malta, 19th-20th October. However, they pulled their two first ever South African dates to accomodate, with no reasoning. A lot of fans are unhappy, understandably, at the way it has been handeled. No communication or apology.

Shine has crossed over 1.2 million sales (Double Platinum) in the UK. It is their fourth song to cross this mark. I think in time Never Forget, Greatest Day, and The Flood will do the same.

https://www.iq-mag.net/2024/02/uta-duo-reve...ing-masterplan/ This is fantastic and what I wanted them to do in terms of finding where their international audience is.

I thought that also. Hopefully the tour will push the album back into the charts.

They are touring Asia, Europe, Middle East, and Australia for the album. 'This Life'! More potentially to follow. Below is the year they last toured in that continent and country: Asia: Indonesia: 1995 Japan: 1995. Singapore: 2016. Taiwan: 2007. Europe: Austria: 2019. Czech Republic: Never. Denmark: 2023. Germany: 2019. Hungary: Never. Ireland: 2019. Italy: 2019. Malta: Never. Poland: Never. Portugal: Never. Slovakia: Never. Spain: 2007. Switzerland: 2019. Middle East: United Arab Emirates (UAE): 2017. Oceania: Australia: 2017.

Out of interest, here are all the boyband singles (New Kids onwards) which have gone Double Platinum or higher in the UK. UK Singles - Platinum+ Triple Platinum: Over 1.8 million copies sold. I Want It That Way (1999) Backstreet Boys. Rule The World (2007) Take That. What Makes You Beautiful (2011) One Direction. Double Platinum: Over 1.2 million copies sold. Stay Another Day (1994) East 17. Back For Good (1995) Take That. Everybody (Backstreet's Back) (1997) Backstreet Boys. No Matter What (1998) Boyzone. Keep On Movin' (1999) Five. Uptown Girl (2001) Westlife. Patience (2006) Take That. Shine (2007) Take That. Glad You Came (2011) The Wanted. Little Things (2012) One Direction. Story Of My Life (2013) One Direction. Night Changes (2014) One Direction. Steal My Girl (2014) One Direction. Drag Me Down (2015) One Direction. History (2015) One Direction. Reggaeton Lento (2017) CNCO & Little Mix. Sucker (2019) Jonas Brothers. While One Direction has sold a lot of singles (14.4 million to Take That's 13.2) they are far behind on album sales (4.4 million to Take That's 14.4 million) Overall UK sales currently are: Take That: 28 million. Westlife: 22.3 million. One Direction: 18.9 million. Boyzone: 14.3 million. These are the only four boybands currently to have cumulatively crossed 10 million sales in the UK. Take That and Westlife being the only two to have gone over 10 million in both albums and singles separately.

Rule The World is now Take That's most succesful song in the UK having crossed into 3x Platinum and 1.8 million sales. The song which kept it at number 2 for weeks, Bleeding Love by Leona Lewis is on 2 million UK sales. Another case of Band Aid and Last Christmas! Take That & Solo: UK Singles - Platinum+ Triple Platinum: Over 1.8 million copies sold. Angels (1997) Robbie Rule The World (2007) Take That Double Platinum: Over 1.2 million copies sold. Back For Good (1995) Take That Rock DJ (2000) Robbie Patience (2006) Take That Shine (2007) Take That Platinum: Over 600,000 copies sold. Babe (1993) Take That Never Forget (1995) Take That How Deep Is Your Love (1996) Take That Let Me Entertain You (1998) Robbie Millennium (1998) Robbie She's The One/It's Only Us (1999) Robbie Feel (2002) Robbie Greatest Day (2008) Take That The Flood (2010) Take That Candy (2012) Robbie Let Me Go (2013) Gary These Days (2014) Take That Gold: Over 400,000 copies sold. Pray (1993) Take That Everything Changes (1994) Take That Forever Love (1996) Gary Eternity/The Road To Mandalay (2001) Robbie Somethin' Stupid (2001) Robbie Sing (2012) Gary Love My Life (2016) Robbie Silver: Over 200,000 copies sold. A Million Love Songs (1992) Take That Could It Be Magic (1992) Take That Why Can't I Wake Up With You (1993) Take That Relight My Fire (1993) Take That Love Ain't Here Anymore (1994) Take That Sure (1994) Take That Freedom (1996) Robbie Child (1996) Mark Love Won't Wait (1997) Gary Old Before I Die (1997) Robbie No Regrets (1998) Robbie Strong (1999) Robbie Kids (2000) Robbie Supreme (2000) Robbie Come Undone (2003) Robbie Tripping (2005) Robbie Up All Night (2009) Take That Said It All (2009) Take That Bodies (2009) Robbie You Know Me (2009) Robbie Shame (2010) Robbie & Gary Kidz (2011) Take That Cry (2016) Take That Giants (2017) Take That Albums - Over 300,000 (Platinum) referenced. 10x Platinum: Over 3 million copies sold. I've Been Expecting You (1998) Robbie 9x Platinum: Over 2.7 million copies sold. Beautiful World (2006) Take That 8x Platinum: Over 2.4 million copies sold. Life Thru A Lens (1997) Robbie Sing When You're Winning (2000) Robbie Swing When You're Winning (2001) Robbie Greatest Hits (2004) Robbie Never Forget - The Ultimate Collection (2005) Take That Progress (2010) Take That 7x Platinum: Over 2.1 million copies sold Escapology (2002) Robbie The Circus (2008) Take That 5x Platinum: Over 1.5 million copies sold Intensive Care (2005) Robbie 4x Platinum: Over 1.2 million copies sold Everything Changes (1993) Take That Greatest Hits (1996) Take That 3x Platinum: Over 900,000 copies sold Reality Killed The Video Star (2009) Robbie 2x Platinum: Over 600,000 copies sold Take That & Party (1992) Take That Nobody Else (1995) Take That Live At Knebworth (2003) Robbie Rudebox (2006) Robbie In And Out Of Consciousness: Greatest Hits 1990–2010 (2010) Robbie Swings Both Ways (2013) Robbie Since I Saw You Last (2013) Gary Platinum: Over 300,000 copies sold Open Road (1997) Gary The Greatest Day – Take That Present: The Circus Live (2009) Take That Take The Crown (2012) Robbie III (2014) Take That The Heavy Entertainment Show (2016) Robbie Odyssey (2018) Take That

Having kept up with the charts for the last few years, one thing stands out. Traditional greatest hits albums are DOMINATING the album charts, and have been for years. Not just older but newer released collections within the last ten years. Maroon 5, Green Day, My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, 50 Cent, Phil Collins etc. The other thing in common is that none of these newer released greatest hits, which have hung around during the last 5-10 years since release, changed anything. No reinterpretations or remixes. I can't help but feel 'Odyssey' should have been 'Greatest Hits: Vol 2'. 2006-2018 with the new tracks still on but the original versions. I appreciate they wanted to be different and the argument was that people already owned/knew the original versions. However, clearly that isn't the case and these albums are going strong without alterations. They should have 'Odyssey' down as a remix album and put out 'Greatest Hits: Vol 2', or like Queen have a 2 and 3, double album. It could also reintroduce their audience. Thoughts?

I will update this where relevant as more chart positions come in. The main album to album breakdown by countries is further up on page 4. In Ireland they now have a #1 album as a 5,4 and 3. In Germany they now have a top 10 album as a 5,4, and 3. In Spain, 'This Life' is their highest charting album since the 2005 reunion and first top 10 since 'Greatest Hits' (1996). In Switzerland, 'This Life' is their highest charting album as a 3. In Belgium (Flanders) it is their higest charting album since the 2005 reunion. *Flanders is the Dutch speaking northern part of Belgium and Wallonia the southern French speaking region of the country.* In Austria it is their highest charting album as a 3.

That is a great idea, didn't think about vinyl.

It will be fantastic when Beautiful World finally goes over 3 million and becomes 10x Platinum. The equivalent of Diamond in America and Canada. (10x) I would love Take That & Party, Nobody Else and Wonderland to all creep over into next sales certification as I believe all three should be higher. For the first two they were succesful by the standards of the day. I just think they should be higher to fall more in line with their post reunion sales. I think what would help both 'Take That & Party' and 'Nobody Else' is if they put the hit single versions of 'Could It Be Magic' and 'Never Forget' in place of the original album versions.

Have put peaks for all 9 studio albums and 3 Greatest Hits alongside each to show career trajectory. The first figure being Take That & Party and the twelfth This Life. An X denotes that particular album in sequence didn't chart in Top 40/100. I have excluded the live albums. Take That & Party, Everything Changes, Nobody Else, Greatest Hits, Never Forget: The Ultimate Collection, Beautiful World, The Circus, Progress, III, Wonderland, Odyssey, This Life. Ireland#1. / 27-4-1-1-12-1-1-1-6-3-3-1. UK#1. / 2-1-1-1-2-1-1-1-1-2-1-1. Germany#8. / 28-4-1-1-91-2-14-1-26-19-18-8. Spain#10. / X-X-2-1-X-16-27-17-54-18-54-10. Switzerland#14. / X-9-1-2-73-6-22-2-59-28-45-14. Belgium (Flanders)#30. / 6-6-1-2-76-62-94-36-84-43-42-30. Austria#39. / X-7-1-1-X-8-42-2-X-47-55-39. Italy#47. / X-13-1-1-X-25-32-3-39-36-80-47. Netherlands#84. / 21-3-1-1-X-33-68-4-64-48-85-84. Belgium (Wallonia)#140. / X-7-2-4-X-X-X-32-X-75-X-X. I think EMI has done a great job for them. However, I feel they should re-establish themselves in some other European territories, like they did with the Beautiful World release. Netherlands, France, Norway, Sweden, Finland and some promo in Italy would be good for them I think. In Ireland they now have a #1 album as a 5,4 and 3. In Germany they now have a top 10 album as a 5,4, and 3. In Spain, 'This Life' is their highest charting album since the 2005 reunion and first top 10 since 'Greatest Hits' (1996). In Switzerland, 'This Life' is their highest charting album as a 3. In Belgium (Flanders) it is their higest charting album since the 2005 reunion. *Flanders is the Dutch speaking northern part of Belgium and Wallonia the southern French speaking region of the country.* In Austria it is their highest charting album as a 3.

I totally agree. The three singles chosen were all one and the same. They are basically the retro '70s Americana vocal harmony tracks. They should have shown the diversity of the album more. It's not that Mark and Howard can't have leads, but like Milly above said, the two Gary led songs, 'Windows' and 'This Life' have charted on the Download Chart. 'Brand New Sun' didn't make the Top 100, and it was released in a less competitive market to 'This Life' single also. 'Brand New Sun' is a good track. However, Mark and Howard have to have the exact right song to make an impact. Clearly Gary picks up the ears of the general listener more. 'Where We Are' led by Gary is doing well on downloads also in Germany, Switzerland, Austria after Wetten Dass? I know downloads don't equate to mainstream success (Top 100) these days due to the ridiculous weight put on streaming as opposed to actual purchased content--baffling to me-- However, they are now the best way for them to judge what is actually proving popular. 'This Life' has been climbing on the Download Chart the past few weeks, and this Friday I believe it will creep inside the top 20. Just before all the Christmas songs blow it away. Since streaming has had its impact on Take That in the main singles chart after 'Giants' made #13 on the main chart, their last chart placement. The UK Download 100 Chart for them has been as follows: New Day (2017): Did Not Chart. Pray - Odyssey version (2018): #75. Out of Our Heads (2018): #25. Babe - Odyssey version (2018): #76. Greatest Day (Robin Schulz Rework) (2023): #7 Windows (2023): #3. Brand New Sun (2023): Did Not Chart. This Life (2023): #21. I wonder if there will be any videos? Since 2017, Robbie, Gary, and Mark have been in the same position with no singles on the main 100 chart. Placings on Download Chart. Robbie: Mixed Signals (2017): #85. Time For Change (2019): #87. Hey Tiger (2020): #89. Strange Days (with The Struts) (2020): #25. Can't Stop Christmas (2020): #9. Angels - XXV version (2022): #71. Lost - XXV version (2022): #25. Gary: Elita (with Michael Buble & Sebastian Yatra) (2020): #14. Incredible (2020): #19. Incredible Christmas (2020): #94. How Christmas Is Supposed To Be (with Sheridan Smith) (2021): #68. Mark: You Only Want Me (2022): #76. Magic (2022): #75.

Songs I liked: This Life, March Of The Hopeful, Days I Hate Myself, Mind Full Of Madness, Windows, Where We Are. Having heard the album, they could have put out something more diverse than Brand New Sun as a single. It made the three singles all be in the same vein and that may have put people off.

I like the fact the album will be vocal harmony led. That is after all what they were formed around, and moved away from with the later albums.

"Like they said - he never really fitted into TT even at 16" I think Robbie was more suited to East 17's style.

Bridgeton and Squid Game are two of the most succesful streamed Netflix programmes of all time and they managed 31,33 days in the Worldwide top 10. Beckham was around 20 days. That said, Robbie has achieved the best result (3) he can without a strong Americas, Asia or Africa showing. Therefore, the documentary is a success. Think of it like a single which has a high opening, a hit, then gradual decline as opposed to a huge blockbuster.

I'll update this post until the documentary leaves the Netflix Worldwide Top Ten. The daily run is: 3-4-5-5-4-5-5-7-10-8-10-9.

Netflix success is measured in days within the Top 10. Yesterday (first day) the documentary opened at number three on the Netflix Worldwide TV Chart, number four today (second day): https://flixpatrol.com/top10/netflix/world/2023-11-09/ https://flixpatrol.com/title/robbie-williams/ Number One in: Australia, Austria, Bulgaria, Croatia, Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, Iceland, Ireland, Latvia, Lithuania, Malta, New Zealand, Norway, Slovakia, Slovenia, South Africa, Sweden, Switzerland, UK. If he wants to go higher, promotion and general awareness will need to be given to regions outside Europe and Oceania.