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I decided to look at all their Youtube views out of curiosity to see popularity. I have only sought out official videos of the songs. Back For Good. 91.8 million. The Flood. 48.2 million. Patience. 38.9 million. Rule The World. 38.3 million. Greatest Day. 23.2 million. These Days. 21.5 million. How Deep Is Your Love. 20.9 million. Shine. 19.2 million. Love Love. 15.9 million. Could It Be Magic/Kidz. 10.8 million. Never Forget. 10.4 million. Everything Changes. 8.7 million. Get Ready For it. 7.9 million. Babe. 7.7 million. Pray. 7.2 million. Relight My Fire. 6.9 million. When We Were Young. 5.9 million. A Million Love Songs. 5.3 million. Cry. 4.8 million. It Only Takes a Minute. 4.7 million. Giants. 4.3 million. Up All Night. 3.4 million. Said It All. 3.1 million. Do What You Like. 2.9 million. New Day. 2.5 million. Hey Boy/Let In The Sun. 2.2 million. Happy Now/Love Ain't Here Anymore. 2.1 million. I'd Wait For Life/Sure. 1.9 million. Eight Letters/Out of Our Heads. 1.5 million. I Found Heaven. 1.2 million. Promises. 730,000. Why Can't I Wake Up With You (slow version). 682,000 Once You've Tasted Love. 634,000. Why Can't I Wake Up With You (single remix). 472,000. Satisfied. 458,000. Pray (Odyssey version). 316,000. The Garden. 195,000. Relight My Fire (Element Remix). 129,000.

Remember half the chart is full of Christmas songs and will be for a few weeks to come.

Having just listened to the album, here are the songs, in alphabetical order, I liked the most: Bad Libran. Incredible. Let's Get Drunk. -very Jamiroquai like with the strings- Oh What A Day. -on first listen, think this was my favourite- The Kind Of Friend I Need. This Is My Time. What Leaving's All About. Who's Driving This Thing.

Are McFly even a big act? They have a loyal fanbase, though have had diminishing returns since their first and most succesful album. Gary could potential sell what McFly would in total, in a few weeks, if not the first. McFly UK Studio Album cert level given. 600,000, 300,000, 300,000, 100,000, 100,000, 100,000. (McBusted) And speaking of Busted here are their UK Studio Album cert levels. 1.2 million, 900,000, 100,000, (McBusted) 60,000, Last studio album currently less than 60,000. Both McFly and Busted peaked with first studio album in terms of sales, however Busted are close to having second album equal 1.2 million threshold. Gary UK Studio Album cert levels. 300,000, 2nd studio album currently less than 60,000. 100,000, 600,000.

Would tables have turned and they have been most popular pop act in Britain? Robbie has said East 17 are one of his favourite pop bands and joked that he would have been better fitted in that group. If he was a member, do you feel compared to a 4 man Take That in 90s, East 17 would have done better and potentially outsold Take That? Thoughts.

I agree, the drop off was something huge. I too had always hoped they would at least break over 1 million with all albums. Though, they had two albums in 90s which didn't sell over a million, though Take That & Party is quite close. They really have to work for a hit lead off single and with no multiple hits coming off the albums, it's inevitable sales won't match. Robbie though is in exact same position and sales as Take That, so I feel it just happens the longer you are around.

The Flood is iconic. Albums of theirs I love are Beautiful World, Progress and Nobody Else. Their vocals and musicianship peaked on that album, regarding first phase. It is also by far globally furthest reaching album. It also blended fun pop with great adult contemporary. Without that album success, there are places (North/South America) which simply wouldn't have known Take That existed. I too loved The Circus at the time, though have disinterest in it now and much prefer three albums mentioned above. Take That & Party, Everything Changes, III and Wonderland are never played by me. Though I love 'Another Crack In My Heart' from Everything Changes and play this still. I think Odyssey works for someone not familiar with Take That, hearing those versions as first timers with no preconceptions. That is feedback I have got, sending this album to others, namely as all singles are in one place, if not their original versions.

I agree for the tone and progression, even if fans wanted pure pop still, cover mis-represents maturity. They should have flipped pictures in booklet had the pensive all 5, black background as cover and dolls image inside cover of booklet. I don't like the version of Never Forget on the album. The Jim Steinman single remix, globally known, is far superior for me and money well spent. There is no way the single would be as iconic or mark TT out as different without the Steinman boombast. Take That & Party is my least favourite album, it sounds like a big confusion of ideas, production, vocals and lack of identity. Again, Could It Be Magic and Why Can't I Wake Up With You would have gone nowhere without the remixes, in my opinion. It Only Takes a Minute, A Million Love Songs, Promises and Give Good Feeling, I feel being only songs which have stood test of time. Take That and Party also holds a certain charm still also.

What are other thoughts on this? It is my favourite 90s album from them, due to the maturity and deeper songwriting from Gary, in my opinion. However now as an adult, I feel the front cover featuring the dolls and child like items, Teddy, crayon etc, does album a disservice to an older and new potential audience. Even though they are very much brooding and on complete other end of spectrum, less fun more serious on US album cover. I feel I like this image as a front cover more, you don't know what to epect from the album. The dolls cover seems a bit juvenile perhaps and doesn't represent depth of album to a non fan. As fans we know it is a great album, thoughts?

A very fascinating article to show where TT are in the World. A lot of time and effort placed in gathering all this information. I wondered why Nobody Else didn't sell like the others, despite BFG being on it. https://chartmasters.org/2019/12/take-that-...nd-songs-sales/ Their top 10 album markets and sales: Take That 1.UK - 17,080,000 2.Germany - 3,203,000 3.Italy - 908,000 4.Japan - 778,500 5.USA - 425,000 6.Netherlands - 400,000 7.Spain - 367,000 8.Ireland - 352,500 9.Switzerland - 288,000 10.France - 248,000 Robbie 1.UK - 21,615,000 2.Germany - 10,415,000 3.France - 2,700,000 4.Australia - 2,665,000 5.Italy - 2,425,000 6.Netherlands - 2,180,000 7.Switzerland - 1,287,500 8.Mexico - 1,245,000 9.USA - 1,097,500 10.Austria - 1,080,000 The only major market nation Take That have outsold Rob is Japan, 778,500 albums sold to 326,500. However, this was down to huge selling 'Nobody Else' #6 and 'Greatest Hits' (96) #12 peaks there, both of which featured his involvement. Top 10 based on current global streaming platforms data. Take That 1.Back For Good 2.Patience 3.These Days 4.Rule The World 5.The Flood 6.Shine 7.Greatest Day 8.Relight My Fire 9.Never Forget 10.How Deep Is Your Love Robbie 1.Angels 2.Feel 3.Rock DJ 4.She's The One 5.Candy 6.Let Me Entertain You 7.Better Man 8.Love My Life 9.Somethin' Stupid 10.Supreme Enjoy. Comparing to other boybands he has done, album sales. For Latin America, I took out Mexico sales and placed them in North America. Africa sales weren't listed and Westlife haven't been calculated as yet. Take That: Europe: 25,690,000 Asia: 2,649,000 North America: 683,500 South America: 275,000 Oceania: 203,500 NSYNC: North America: 35,045,000 Europe: 1,575,000 Asia: 1,150,000 South America: 210,000 Oceania: 155,000 BTS: Asia: 14,340,000 North America: 1,963,000 Europe: 1,002,500 South America: 342,500 Oceania: 46,500 One Direction North America: 10,040,000 Europe: 7,840,000 Asia: 2,440,000 South America: 1,380,000 Oceania: 1,175,000 Backstreet Boys North America: 31,739,000 Europe: 15,840,000 Asia: 4,850,000 South America: 2,930,000 Oceania: 1,227,500 and Robbie album sales .. Europe: 51,655,000 Oceania: 3,277,500 North America: 2,733,000 Asia: 1,740,000 South America: 1,174,000 The fact Backstreet Boys, One Direction and Robbie have sold over one million albums on all continents (Africa not calculated) truly is a huge achievement. I've added The Beatles, even though I don't view them as a boyband, purely for how insane their album sales are! By Continent - Album Sales Asia: The Beatles - 33,180,000 BTS - 14,340,000 Backstreet Boys - 4,850,000 Jackson 5 - 3,100,000 Take That - 2,649,000 One Direction - 2,440,000 Robbie Williams - 1,740,000 NSYNC - 1,150,000 Europe: The Beatles - 86,230,000 Robbie Williams - 51,655,000 Take That - 25,690,000 Backstreet Boys - 15,840,000 Jackson 5 - 8,660,000 One Direction - 7,840,000 NSYNC - 1,575,000 BTS - 1,002,500 North America: The Beatles - 183,400,000 NSYNC - 35,045,000 Backstreet Boys - 31,739,000 Jackson 5 - 24,705,000 One Direction - 10,040,000 Robbie Williams - 2,733,000 BTS - 1,963,000 Take That - 683,500 Oceania: The Beatles - 6,580,000 Robbie Williams - 3,277,500 Jackson 5 - 1,300,000 Backstreet Boys - 1,227,500 One Direction - 1,175,000 Take That - 203,500 NSYNC - 155,000 BTS - 46,500 South America: The Beatles - 10,840,000 Backstreet Boys - 2,930,000 One Direction - 1,380,000 Robbie Williams - 1,174,000 BTS - 342,500 Take That - 275,000 NSYNC - 210,000 Jackson 5: No sales given.

People may have forgotten, however when Boyzone arrived in Britain, they went head to head with the biggest acts. This was deliberate for their first five UK singles by the group. The reasoning was Louis Walsh wanted a big, bold, tabloid worthy, take down of a giant act, to fuel huge publicity for Boyzone and a changing of the guards, so to speak. Take That being his main target, though East 17 and Michael Jackson were also pitted against. Hoping to knock the act off the top spot. I'm so thankful Take That had a strong fanbase which didn't allow that to happen! The headlines, as Walsh predicted would have been HUGE. Interestingly he famously did reverse with Westlife, picking 'quiet weeks' with no competition and easy routes to the top. Single #1. 1st January 1995 #1. Stay Another Day - East 17 #2. Love Me For A Reason - Boyzone Single #2. 23rd April 1995 #1. Back For Good - Take That #3. Key To My Life - Boyzone Single #3. 6th August 1995 #1 Never Forget - Take That #3 So Good - Boyzone Single #4. 23rd December 1995 #1 Earth Song - Michael Jackson #2 Father And Son - Boyzone Single #5. 3rd March 1996 #1 How Deep Is Your Love - Take That #4 Coming Home Now - Boyzone By the end of 1996 and Take That's initial split, they had double the overall British sales of Boyzone. (8.4 million to 4.2 million)

UK Sales - Original Studio albums, Live Albums and Greatest Hits As of the end of 2019. Take That Take That & Party (1992), 870,000 Everything Changes (1993), 1.3 million Nobody Else (1995), 680,000 Greatest Hits (1996), 1.2 million Never Forget: The Ultimate Collection (2005), 2.4 million The Platinum Collection (2006), 60,000 Beautiful World (2006), 2.8 million The Circus (2008), 2.3 million The Greatest Day - Take That Present The Circus Live (2009), 514,000 Progress (2010), 2.4 million Progress Live (2011), 175,100 III (2014), 579,200 Wonderland (2017), 220,946 Odyssey (2018), 337,800 The Best Of Take That (2001), Forever...Greatest Hits (2002) and Odyssey - Greatest Hits Live (2019) are all currently below 60,000 UK sales. Westlife Westlife (1999), 1.5 million Coast To Coast (2000), 1.8 million World Of Our Own (2001), 1.2 million Unbreakable - Greatest Hits, Vol 1. (2002), 1.8 million Turnaround (2003), 778,000 Allow Us To Be Frank (2004), 717,000 Face To Face (2005), 1.3 million The Love Album (2006), 1 million Back Home (2007), 992,730 Where We Are (2009), 600,000 Gravity (2010), 381,500 Greatest Hits (2011), 702,300 Spectrum (2019), 131,200 The Love Songs (2014) is currently below 60,000 UK sales. UK Singles - Platinum+ Take That: Triple Platinum: Over 1.8 million copies sold. Rule The World (2007) Double Platinum: Over 1.2 million copies sold. Back For Good (1995) Patience (2006) Shine (2007) Platinum: Over 600,000 copies sold. Babe (1993) Never Forget (1995) How Deep Is Your Love (1996) Greatest Day (2008) The Flood (2010) These Days (2014) Westlife Double Platinum: Over 1.2 million copies sold. Uptown Girl (2001) Platinum: Over 600,000 copies sold. Swear It Again (1999) If I Let You Go (1999) Flying Without Wings (1999) I Have A Dream/Seasons In The Sun (1999) World Of Our Own (2002) You Raise Me Up (2005) Hello My Love (2019)

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Best: I'm in minority it would seem but for me it's Nobody Else. The song writing, group vocals and songs were at their strongest and this showed in fact album embodies Take That's global peak success EVER. There are continents, namely North and South America were this was their only successful studio album, that was for a reason. Their image was at strongest/sleekest and album packed with some very under-rated songs. They broke America top 10 as a four in late 1995 with Back For Good, though I could see 'The Day After Tomorrow' becoming another global hit and top 40 US follow up. Moody and very of it's time and US radio friendly. A follow up video shot in NYC to capitalise on recent US success, however we know what came next instead. I'm sure I read TDAT was due to be next single had they stayed together. Worst: Take That & Party: It's personality, charm and potential future greatness (A Million love Songs) are it's strengths. However, production, cheesy songs and lyrics for majority of album let it down and vocals weren't as great/strong as from second album onwards.

Songs by Take That which were hits across Europe are: Could It Be Magic, Pray, Relight My Fire, Babe, Everything Changes, Love Ain't Here Anymore, Sure, Back For Good, Never Forget, How Deep Is Your Love, Patience, Shine, Rule The World, The Flood. That's 14 European hits, all of which should be performed, then make numbers up with the rest. Regardless of how we feel about a song across Europe TT are remembered for a string of hits starting 1994 - 1996 and then again Beautiful World era 2006 - 2007. Basically picking up where they left off. Bookends either side being breakout Euro hit 'Could It Be Magic' and reunion lead 'The Flood'. The ratio of European hits being 10:4 - 90's:00's onwards. In the UK they have had 19 Top 10 singles and a whole load of other top 40 singles, so they can pick and choose setlist. Europe it's different.

They performed Odyssey in UK and Ireland as the album did well in both these countries. The original versions make sense in Europe. How confusing it would be had they done reworked versions. The European Greatest Hits Live setlist is 20. Australia/New Zealand/Israel Wonderland Tour (2017) 22. European Take That Live (2015) 21. European Progress Tour (2011) 17. (taking RW solo off) European Beautiful World Tour (2007) 17. Nobody Else World Tour (1995) 20. European Pops Tour (1995) 16. European Everything Changes Tour (1994) 14. As you would expect with more albums the setlist has picked up overseas. It now is on the 20 song mark.

As they embark on the European dates, hopefully the album will re-peak or chart in some of these nations. I'm still disappointed they promised their fans in North and South America tour dates only to ONCE AGAIN not materialize. Months spent asking nations to request and they would take it into account. At least they are still going into Europe. They are after all the highest selling boy band of all time in Europe. Regardless of the huge UK sales, we are still European and they are millions ahead of any other boyband group European sales because of this.

Everything Changes being scored higher than Pray and Never Forget. The interesting thing is Sure is higher ranked by general public than by the fanbase, it would appear. Brief instrumental of song is regularly featured in Derry Girls, namely the dramatic change after piano intro and into first chorus. All four comeback chart toppers ranking so highly, especially These Days, always assumed this was fan #1 due to sole week at top and supported as first by them as a three piece. Westlife their four highest are all original songs and their best. Interesting to see how Rule The World would have scored, as we know it was #2 behind Bleeding Love by Leona Lewis for weeks. That song was scored 6.92 overall and would rank second in TT,WL,GB,RW,BM list above behind Patience.

Yes. Done over months, three years given at a time between 1952 and 2018, scored for a week and then averages complied after voting closed.

Digital Spy Number Ones Vote: Average Out of 10. Voted on by a range of music fan and age. All number one singles by Take That, Westlife, Gary, Robbie and Brian. 40 UK chart topping singles between all of them. 1.Patience - Take That, 8.00 2.Millennium - Robbie Williams, 6.82 3.Back For Good - Take That, 6.61 4.These Days - Take That, 6.38 5.Shine - Take That, 5.86 6.Greatest Day - Take That, 5.82 7.Rock DJ - Robbie Williams, 5.25 8.Relight My Fire - Take That, 5.04 9.Flying Without Wings - Westlife, 4.88 10.Everything Changes - Take That, 4.82 11.She's The One - Robbie Williams, 4.78 12.Pray - Take That, 4.75 13.Never Forget - Take That, 4.59 14.Radio - Robbie Williams, 4.56 15.Swear It Again - Westlife, 4.54 16.Somethin' Stupid - Robbie Williams, 4.38 17.World Of Our Own - Westlife, 4.23 18.If I Let You Go - Westlife, 4.21 19.Eternity - Robbie Williams, 4.15 20=I Have A Dream - Westlife, 4.00 20=It's Only Us - Robbie Williams, 4.00 20=Sure - Take That, 4.00 23.My Love - Westlife, 3.87 24.Love Won't Wait - Gary Barlow, 3.86 25.The Rose - Westlife, 3.67 26.Fool Again - Westlife, 3.63 27.Candy - Robbie Williams, 3.60 28.How Deep Is Your Love - Take That, 3.52 29.The Road To Mandalay - Robbie Williams, 3.50 30.Uptown Girl - Westlife, 3.38 31.Real To Me - Brian McFadden, 3.33 32.Babe - Take That, 3.26 33.Sing - Gary Barlow, 3.22 34.Seasons In The Sun - Westlife, 3.11 35=Mandy - Westlife, 2.86 35=You Raise Me Up - Westlife, 2.86 37.Unbreakable - Westlife, 2.77 38.Queen Of My Heart - Westlife, 2.55 39.Forever Love - Gary Barlow, 2.35 40.Against All Odds - Westlife, 2.30 Take That Top 10 Rated 1.Patience - 8.00 2.Back For Good - 6.61 3.These Days - 6.38 4.Shine - 5.86 5.Greatest Day - 5.82 6.Relight My Fire - 5.04 7.Everything Changes - 4.82 8.Pray - 4.75 9.Never Forget - 4.59 10.Sure - 4.00 Westlife Top 10 Rated 1.Flying Without Wings - 4.88 2.Swear It Again - 4.54 3.World Of Our Own - 4.23 4.If I Let You Go - 4.21 5.I Have A Dream - 4.00 6.My Love - 3.87 7.The Rose - 3.67 8.Fool Again - 3.63 9.Uptown Girl - 3.38 10.Seasons In The Sun - 3.11

Cry has gone Silver few weeks back and late last year These Days went Platinum. Cry was defiantly kept in the setlist for years after release keeping it's exposure up. This is what they would need to do to defy chart positions and sales/streams that come from obvious exposure relating to chart positions. These are the singles yet to reach Silver (minimum certification) for Take That now: Possibles and unlikely in my opinion. Possible Do What U Like (possible due to infamy and continued referencing - even if for comedy purpose) It Only Takes a Minute (likely through trickle sales and rare plays still - all top 10 singles should have met this minimum criteria) Up All Night (possible though it's hype has worn off a little these days) Said It All (as above and all their top 10's should really go at least Silver) Hold Up a Light (hard to judge this one in terms of continued sales/streams as no chart success like two above - would need to go outside just fanbase) Love Love (has the chart position but not so much exposure these days) Giants (Still gets some exposure as backing music on tv but would need a push) Unlikely Promises Once You've Tasted Love I Found Heaven I'd Wait For Life Kidz When We Were Young Let In The Sun Hey Boy New Day Pray (OV) Out Of Our Heads To answer above question Take That UK Single Platinum Certifications: To show length of time taken I've gone first to last based on date achieved not order of release. Babe Back For Good How Deep Is Your Love Patience Rule The World (2x) The Flood Greatest Day Shine Never Forget These Days 10 Platinum singles in total - 4 90's, 4 00's and 2 10's. Currently sitting at Gold level. Pray 1 90's. Currently sitting at Silver level. Could It Be Magic Why Can't I Wake Up With You Relight My Fire Everything Changes Love Ain't Here Anymore Sure A Million Love Songs Cry 7 90's, 1 10's. 19 singles overall certified in UK: 12 90's, (4.2 mil) 4 00's, (3 mil) 3 10's. (1.4 mil) As we know it was in album sales they really took off the second time around from a few big selling singles. the 19 Single certs and album represented. Combined single sales from certified singles in brackets. 6 Everything Changes (1.8 mil) 3 Beautiful World (2.4 mil) 3 Nobody Else (1.4 mil) 2 Take That & Party (400k) 1 The Circus (600k) 1 Greatest Hits (600k) 1 Progress (600k) 1 III (600k) 1 Wonderland (200k)

Cry yesterday was certified Silver for sales/streams totaling 200,000 copies despite peaking outside the top 20! It means their most recent minimum certified single release is from 2016 which isn't too long ago. Giants could possibly go Silver in time, having peaked higher than Cry. However, Cry had 8 weeks and Giants 3 weeks in UK top 100.

Unfortunately I've just deleted off my iPod quite a few Odyssey tracks, a new intro or updating the sound isn't enough for me. I kept Everlasting out of the three new songs and 6 reworked versions which offer different takes.

So we now know the first week of the Westlife reunion. Their comeback single has reached #2 in Ireland and #13 in the UK.

With regard to Westlife I think it'll be the same as Giants, like Take That it has had a strong opening few days however now is slipping. It'll be #1 in Ireland though as on all platforms it's charting highly. In terms of the UK, Spotify #113, Apple Music #92, ITunes # 5 and You Tube #19. I put the four in order of most weighted towards the charts. My guess between 10 and 20 debut in UK.