Everything posted by Jaz13music
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2025 singles year to date estimates
Thank you that’s great! Sorry, I got quite a few of my initial estimates wrong this time, so I’m very grateful for your help. Great to see Good luck, Babe! get the number 1 though. Like you, I checked and double checked the figures with the feeling that it couldn’t be ahead of Billie since their positions seem to be reversed in all the other cumulative lists. As jimwatts says it’s odd to see a top 2 that didn’t reach a weekly number one. Reminds me of ‘Love The Way You Lie’ being end of year number 1 back in the day. Sabrina’s great 12 months is reflected in 3 songs in the top 7 (4 in the top 30). Will her new album be as successful I wonder? Hopefully if we do an end of Q3 list it will be a bit fresher though. Are we expecting Alex to have ascended to number 1 by then?
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2025 singles year to date estimates
I’ve had a go at another rolling 12 month best sellers list, this time July ‘24 to June ‘25 (end of Q2). Thanks again to you all on this thread for any data I’ve adapted. I’m hoping the top 30 are fairly accurate but any corrections/comments are very welcome. In particular some of the sales totals are very close this time (particularly at the top) so any errors could easily affect the positions. I struggled a bit more with trying to get accurate sales figures for positions 30-40 when a lot of the older songs become a factor, so if anyone can help with those I would be very grateful. I estimate Iris plus Carry You Home, maybe Red Wine Supernova and Dreams, and obviously Mr Brightside are in there somewhere! 1 Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe! 1.565m 2 Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather 1.561m 3 Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 1.551m 4 Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 1.430m 5 Lady Gaga & Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile 1.390m 6 Sabrina Carpenter - Taste 1.350m 7 Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please 1.317m 8 Shaboozey - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 1.293m 9 Rose & Bruno Mars - APT. 1.290m 10 Gracie Abrams - That’s So True 1.260m 11 Chappell Roan - Pink Pony Club 1.260m 12 Teddy Swims - Lose Control 1.260m 13 Post Malone ft Morgan Wallen - I Had Some Help 1.260m 14 Myles Smith - Stargazing 1.219m 15 Teddy Swims - The Door 1.118m 16 Lola Young - Messy 1.170m 17 Gigi Perez - Sailor Song 1.170m 18 Hozier - Too Sweet 1.168m 19 Alex Warren - Ordinary 1.096m 20 Noah Kahan - Stick Season 1.040m 21 Chappell Roan - Hot To Go 1.025m 22 Bl3ss & CamrinWatsin ft BbyClose - Kisses 1.000m 23 Dasha - Austin 0.959m 24 Sonny Fodera, Jazzy & D.O.D. - Somedays 0.880m 25 Billie Eilish - Wildflower 0.860m 26 Chrystal - The Days 0.850m 27 Gracie Abrams - I Love You, I’m Sorry 0.850m 28 Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us 0.824m 29 Sabrina Carpenter - Bad Chem 0.79m 30 Teddy Swims - Bad Dreams 0.77m Interestingly the 2024 year end and the likely 2025 year end number ones are sitting together in the middle of the list, perhaps suggesting what I suspected, that a January to December list is no longer fully reflecting the biggest songs of the year in the streaming era.
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2025 singles year to date estimates
Am I right in saying there’s still 5 songs on track for a second year of a million sales? I know the sales might drop off before year end but it would be unprecedented if it continued. Benson looking the most likely to achieve it, and join an exclusive club atm though.
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RATE: Buzzjack's Ultimate Platinum Non-Top 40 Single: 1st Semi-Final
+25 Let It Happen - Tame Impala +24 I Follow Rivers - Lykke Li +23 Where Is My Mind? - Pixies +22 Mardy Bum - Arctic Monkeys +21 The Sound Of Silence - Simon And Garfunkel +20 Wouldn’t It Be Nice - The Beach Boys +19 Swimming Pools (Drank) - Kendrick Lamar +18 Intro - The xx +17 One Way Or Another - Blondie +16 Gimme Shelter - The Rolling Stones +15 Changes - David Bowie +14 To Build A Home - The Cinematic Orchestra +13 The Chain - Fleetwood Mac +12 Here Comes The Sun - The Beatles +11 Champagne Supernova - Oasis +10 Walking On A Dream - Empire Of The Sun +9 Isn’t She Lovely - Stevie Wonder +8 Cold Little Heart - Michael Kiwanuka +7 Tiny Dancer - Elton John +6 Wild World - Yusuf/Cat Stevens +5 Hypersonic Missiles - Sam Fender +4 9 to 5 - Dolly Parton +3 Summer of ‘69 - Bryan Adams +2 Somebody Else - The 1975 +1 Lost - Frank Ocean
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RATE: Buzzjack's Ultimate Platinum Non-Top 40 Single: Round 1
I’m afraid I’ve lost 10 songs and it’s a shame Redbone went out on the tiebreaker. Not too disappointed though as I think there’s so many great songs left. Really enjoying the write ups and already looking forward to the semi finals. Thanks!
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RATE: Buzzjack's Ultimate Platinum Non-Top 40 Single: Round 1
No problem, I’m amazed you’re able to keep track of all these stats in the first place! As you say it’s a great song and at least it’s meant I’ve been listening to it, and the Beastie Boys in general again, after not hearing it/them for a while. Really enjoying the results so far though, thanks for your great work!
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RATE: Buzzjack's Ultimate Platinum Non-Top 40 Single: Round 1
So hard to choose, so I went for my favourite song for each artist to be able to fit more in. Also it’s great to be able to put in a Beach Boys song in tribute to the genius of Brian Wilson. +30 Let It Happen - Tame Impala +29 Something Good Can Work - Two Door Cinema Club +28 I Follow Rivers - Lykke Li +27 Fade Into You - Mazzy Star +26 Where Is My Mind? - Pixies +25 Come And Get Your Love - Redbone +24 Mardy Bum - Arctic Monkeys +23 The Sound Of Silence - Simon And Garfunkel +22 King Kunta - Kendrick Lamar +21 Sabotage - Beastie Boys +20 Christmas Wrapping - The Waitresses +19 Figure It Out - Royal Blood +18 Intro - The xx +17 Straight Outta Compton - N.W.A +16 Ride - Twenty One Pilots +15 In My Life - The Beatles +14 Acquiesce - Oasis +13 For What It’s Worth - Buffalo Springfield +12 One Way Or Another - Blondie +11 Baby Can I Hold You - Tracy Chapman +10 Changes - David Bowie +9 A-Punk - Vampire Weekend +8 To Build A Home - The Cinematic Orchestra +7 What’s The Difference - Dr Dre Eminem Xzibit +6 Psycho Killer - Talking Heads +5 Gimme Shelter - The Rolling Stones +4 Wouldn’t It Be Nice - The Beach Boys +3 Pink And White - Frank Ocean +2 Space Song - Beach House +1 Perfect Day - Lou Reed
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RATE: Buzzjack's Ultimate Platinum Non-Top 40 Single: Round 1
What a great idea for a rate! Just got back from my hols so will sort out my votes ASAP.
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Streaming Services Chart Discussion; W/C 23/05/25
New Pulp is fantastic! 2 from 2 so far. Great to have them back.
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Streaming Services Chart Discussion; W/C 25/04/25
Best single released this week, the fantastic Georgie & Joe, getting better with every single!
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Total bangers not on streaming that DIDN'T get to #1
Two songs that made my SOY lists back in the day Soldier Girl - Polyphonic Spree - the original single version (the best version) I’m Leaving - Lodger
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Streaming Services Chart Discussion; W/C 18/04/25
New Lorde! Sounds pretty good on first listen, any chance of chart success do you think?
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2025 singles year to date estimates
That’s brilliant , thanks very much for your help! Yes you’re right, I forgot to remove pre 2024 sales from the totals. A top 40 looks much better as it takes in more recent releases ……but Mr Brightside has snuck in too I notice 🤣
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2025 singles year to date estimates
Thanks for the positive feedback! Yes, I would love to do it regularly. When I looked at a rolling chart more frequently I realised that movement in rankings was almost glacial (like the end of year chart is by December) so felt that quarterly was the most useful, I don’t know if you’d agree? I agree ‘Espresso’ was the most interesting example, in fact the reason I did the chart in the first place! The 2 million sales in 12 months is impressive too! Thank you! Yes help would be very welcome especially with some of the week to week sales as songs fall down the charts )eg my error with ‘Fortnight’ as below) or maybe in expanding to a top 40 Ah, that’s the one I was most unsure about. So what would you estimate sales up to week 13 to be? Would maybe put it at 19th or 20th. I can edit the list with your help if so?
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2025 singles year to date estimates
I was wondering if anyone would be interested in looking at this (or maybe it’s just me)? In the streaming era the EOY chart has appeared heavily biased towards songs released/peaking in the first half of the year, especially Q1. In the physical eras the Q4 sales tended to be so much higher that it often compensated for the lack of weeks in the chart so that even a December release could place high at EOY. So I’ve been trying to estimate a ‘rolling’ 12 month best sellers chart to reduce some of the bias and highlight some bestsellers that would not reach the very top of any EOY chart. I apologise for errors but from my (very) rough estimates, with the help of some of the brilliant data from this thread (so thanks to Julian and many others) I think the top 20 chart for the 12 months from the beginning of Q2 2024 to the end of Q1 2025 would look something like this:- 1 Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 2.064m 2 Hozier - Too Sweet 1.711m 3 Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 1.697m 4 Shahboozy - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 1.586m 5 Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather 1.574m 6 Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe 1.554m 7 Lose Control - Teddy Swims 1.532m 8 Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please 1.389m 9 Noah Kahan - Stick Season 1.366m 10 Dasha - Austin 1.314m 11 Myles Smith - Stargazing 1.257m 12 Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile 1.100m 13 Sabrina Carpenter - Taste 1.100m 14 Post Malone Ft Morgan Wallen - I Had Some Help 1.089m 15 Gracie Abrams - That’s So True 0.950m 16 Gigi Perez - Sailor Song 0.940m 17 Teddy Swims - The Door 0.940m 18 Rose and Bruno Mars - APT 0.920m 19 Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us 0.910m 20 Taylor Swift Ft Post Malone - Fortnight 0.890m It isn’t massively different from the EOY 2024 but positions of the top songs have shuffled, and differences will develop more as we work through Q2 and Q3. Any comments, corrections (especially with sales accuracy) and criticisms welcome (even if it’s just to say you think it’s a waste of time), and if anyone has already done something like this I apologise!
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Sub-2 minute hits of the 21st century POLL
Great idea for a poll! Picked my favourites: White Stripes, Pink Pantheress (JFM), Vines, Lil Nas X,, SFA’s., Liam Lynch, Rakes and obviously ‘Poland’! I know you’re highlighting charting songs from the 21st century but it got me thinking of some of my other favourites, from the 20th century and also non charting/album tracks. I think my absolute favourite short song would be The Smiths Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want but there are many other really great ones. Has anyone got other favourites, I can see a playlist developing and would love your recommendations?
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Buzzjack's Ultimate UK Number 7 Single - The Final
A worthy winner! I find it interesting that the top 2 are a grunge anthem (maybe the ultimate grunge anthem) plus a fledgling Radiohead that were making their attempt at a ‘grungy’ song. They would go on to make, in my opinion, many other wonderful and better songs but I still love Creep, enough to give it 48 points! But Smells Like Teen Spirit is one of the greatest rock songs (if not one of the greatest songs in general) ever. My 50 pointer, so couldn’t be happier! Thank you so much Rollo for your fantastic work! This was my first ‘official’ rate as a Buzzjack member and I really enjoyed all the listening, ranking, voting, following results and most of all the commenting. Hopefully my first of many!🙏
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Will any artist ever debut at number 1 in the singles chart again?
Well the first act to make their chart debut at No. 1 was Whigfield in 1994 (if you discount the first ever one and Billy Preston with the Beatles) so it was very rare and took over 40 years of initial chart history for it to happen. Soon after it became quite common, as previously mentioned, and now rare again. I think that like most of chart history, and history in general, it goes in cycles so will probably happen again eventually. Just that it might take a very long time and maybe another change in our music consumption methods in the future for it to happen!
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Buzzjack's Ultimate UK Number 7 Single - The Final
All my top 3 favourites are in the last 5 with 1st and 3rd to come. Wasn’t expecting that so I’m pleasantly surprised! I love both ABBA and Pulp and those two songs are among my favourites of theirs.
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Buzzjack's Ultimate UK Number 7 Single - The Final
Thanks for the ‘hugs’, I wasn’t expecting that. To be honest I was a bit taken aback/emotional, in a good way. You have a lovely community and as a relative newbie I am glad to be a small part of it!❤️
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Buzzjack's Ultimate UK Number 7 Single - The Final
Everybody Hurts is one of my favourite songs by probably my favourite band ever. It’s also massively important to my wife and I. It was there for us during our baby son’s long illness and, after it helped us grieve his loss, it always obvious we would choose it to be played at his funeral. A bittersweet beautiful uplifting comforting masterpiece. But I’m afraid I find it difficult to listen to these days
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Streaming Services Chart Discussion; W/C 04/04/25
Enjoying End Of The World the most of the new Miley songs. Co-written by some of Alvvays, one of my favourite current ‘indie’ bands
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Buzzjack's Ultimate UK Number 7 Single - The Final
Of course, sorry!
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Buzzjack's Ultimate UK Number 7 Single - The Final
Loved the White Stripes but I think Seven Nation Army maybe suffers a bit from overexposure. Coincidentally they did an excellent cover version of one of our 6 remaining songs (I won’t say which one) on one of their early B sides and also a great live version, both of which are worth checking out.
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Buzzjack's Ultimate UK Number 7 Single - The Final
Out of interest, do you know the average age of the forum? Most people seem fond of songs of their teens and twenties, so I’m guessing born in 70s to 80s maybe?