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    9 hours ago, gasman449 said:

    Just had a go at a full top 40, week 14 2024 to week 13 2025. You're pretty much bang on with your sales estimates, just had to change Hot To Go (it would've done a few sales in 2023 so its total wouldn't fit this list).

    That’s brilliant , thanks very much for your help!

    Yes you’re right, I forgot to remove pre 2024 sales from the totals.

    A top 40 looks much better as it takes in more recent releases ……but Mr Brightside has snuck in too I notice 🤣

    Thanks for the positive feedback!

    4 hours ago, Julian_ said:

    If you want to estimate it every month or quarter I’ll definitely read it! Interesting to see “Espresso” getting that #1 peak.

    Yes, I would love to do it regularly.

    When I looked at a rolling chart more frequently I realised that movement in rankings was almost glacial (like the end of year chart is by December) so felt that quarterly was the most useful, I don’t know if you’d agree?

    I agree ‘Espresso’ was the most interesting example, in fact the reason I did the chart in the first place! The 2 million sales in 12 months is impressive too!

    4 hours ago, gasman449 said:

    Would definitely be willing to collaborate on a rolling chart if you need the help!

    Thank you! Yes help would be very welcome especially with some of the week to week sales as songs fall down the charts )eg my error with ‘Fortnight’ as below) or maybe in expanding to a top 40

    4 hours ago, jimwatts said:

    I am surprised to see 'Fortnight' dropping out from the EOY top 20 as it wasn't released until April so will have only gained from an approx. 810k in 2024 into this year (even before its RSD release).

    48 minutes ago, Julian_ said:

    ^ Yes I reckon “Fortnight” must have done roughly 100-110k so far this year.

    Ah, that’s the one I was most unsure about.

    So what would you estimate sales up to week 13 to be? Would maybe put it at 19th or 20th. I can edit the list with your help if so?

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    I was wondering if anyone would be interested in looking at this (or maybe it’s just me)?

    In the streaming era the EOY chart has appeared heavily biased towards songs released/peaking in the first half of the year, especially Q1. In the physical eras the Q4 sales tended to be so much higher that it often compensated for the lack of weeks in the chart so that even a December release could place high at EOY.

    So I’ve been trying to estimate a ‘rolling’ 12 month best sellers chart to reduce some of the bias and highlight some bestsellers that would not reach the very top of any EOY chart.

    I apologise for errors but from my (very) rough estimates, with the help of some of the brilliant data from this thread (so thanks to Julian and many others) I think the  top 20 chart for the 12 months from the beginning of Q2 2024 to the end of Q1 2025 would look something like this:-

    1 Sabrina Carpenter - Espresso 2.064m

    2 Hozier - Too Sweet 1.711m

    3 Benson Boone - Beautiful Things 1.697m

    4 Shahboozy - A Bar Song (Tipsy) 1.586m

    5 Billie Eilish - Birds Of A Feather 1.574m

    6 Chappell Roan - Good Luck, Babe 1.554m

    7 Lose Control - Teddy Swims 1.532m

    8 Sabrina Carpenter - Please Please Please 1.389m

    9 Noah Kahan - Stick Season 1.366m

    10 Dasha - Austin 1.314m

    11 Myles Smith - Stargazing 1.257m

    12 Lady Gaga and Bruno Mars - Die With A Smile 1.100m

    13 Sabrina Carpenter - Taste 1.100m

    14 Post Malone Ft Morgan Wallen - I Had Some Help 1.089m

    15 Gracie Abrams - That’s So True 0.950m

    16 Gigi Perez - Sailor Song 0.940m

    17 Teddy Swims - The Door 0.940m

    18 Rose and Bruno Mars - APT 0.920m

    19 Kendrick Lamar - Not Like Us 0.910m

    20 Taylor Swift Ft Post Malone - Fortnight 0.890m

    It isn’t massively different from the EOY 2024 but positions of the top songs have shuffled, and differences will develop more as we work through Q2 and Q3.

    Any comments, corrections (especially with sales accuracy) and criticisms welcome (even if it’s just to say you think it’s a waste of time), and if anyone has already done something like this I apologise!

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    Great idea for a poll!

    Picked my favourites: White  Stripes, Pink Pantheress (JFM), Vines, Lil Nas X,, SFA’s., Liam Lynch, Rakes and obviously ‘Poland’!

    I know you’re highlighting charting songs from the 21st century but it got me thinking of some of my other favourites, from the 20th century and also non charting/album tracks. I think my absolute favourite short song would be The Smiths Please Please Please Let Me Get What I Want but there are many other really great ones. Has anyone got other favourites, I can see a playlist developing and would love your recommendations?


    A worthy winner!


    I find it interesting that the top 2 are a grunge anthem (maybe the ultimate grunge anthem) plus a fledgling Radiohead that were making their attempt at a ‘grungy’ song. They would go on to make, in my opinion, many other wonderful and better songs but I still love Creep, enough to give it 48 points!

    But Smells Like Teen Spirit is one of the greatest rock songs (if not one of the greatest songs in general) ever. My 50 pointer, so couldn’t be happier!


    Thank you so much Rollo for your fantastic work! 

    This was my first ‘official’ rate as a Buzzjack member and I really enjoyed all the listening, ranking, voting, following results and most of all the commenting. 


    Hopefully my first of many!🙏

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    Well the first act to make their chart debut at No. 1 was Whigfield  in 1994 (if you discount the first ever one and Billy Preston with the Beatles) so it was very rare and took over 40 years of initial chart history for it to happen.

    Soon after it became quite common, as previously mentioned, and now rare again. I think that like most of  chart history, and history in general, it goes in cycles so will probably happen again eventually. Just that it might take a very long time and maybe another change in our music consumption methods in the future for it to happen!

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    28 minutes ago, King Rollo said:

    5. R.E.M. - Everybody Hurts 1355pts

    Writers - Bill Berry, Peter Buck, Mike Mills, Michael Stipe

    Top scores - jimwatts 50, DarrenJ77 49, Jaz13music 49, Julian_ 49

    Low scores - AH Gold 1, Jason 2, Mark223jy 8

    Average score - 31.5

    From 1993, this was the second of eleven top 10 singles for R.E.M. A charity cover version by Helping Haiti took the song to number 1 in 2010.

    Everybody Hurts is one of my favourite songs by probably my favourite band ever.

    It’s also massively important to my wife and I. It was there for us during our baby son’s long illness and, after it helped us grieve his loss, it always obvious we would choose it to be played at his funeral.

    A bittersweet beautiful uplifting comforting masterpiece.

    But I’m afraid I find it difficult to listen to these days

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    Loved the White Stripes but I think Seven Nation Army maybe suffers a bit from overexposure.

    Coincidentally they did an excellent cover version of one of our 6 remaining songs (I won’t say which one) on one of their early B sides and also a great live version, both of which are worth checking out.

    4 hours ago, King Rollo said:

    Songs from the 90s have always done well in these polls. I think that's down to the average age of the posters on here.

    Out of interest, do you know the average age of the forum? Most people seem fond of songs of their teens and twenties, so I’m guessing born in 70s to 80s maybe?

    2 hours ago, Julian_ said:

    There was also this, where “Common People” and “Born Slippy” were 1st and 2nd respectively!

    https://www.buzzjack.com/forums/topic/256919-buzzjacks-favourite-no-2-of-the-90s/page/56/#comment-7234697

    That’s a really great poll! Common People was my number 1 choice of that year at the time, and very near the top for the whole 90s.

    I’ve been reading about all the 30th anniversary stuff this week, special memories for me as I saw Oasis live at Sheffield Arena on 22nd April 95, the week of the release of their 1st number one single ‘Some Might Say’ my favourite of theirs, so there was an air of celebration about the concert. We were lucky as they also played Don’t Look Back In Anger live for the very first time and Pulp played Common People for one of the first times ever (prior to release later that year), it was wonderful even then. They actually stood in for the Verve, as support, at the last minute, a decision I was very happy with having been a Pulp fan for ages before they became famous. I think this concert was their real springboard at the time.

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    Basket Case is a great song, probably my favourite Green Day song along with ‘American Idiot’. Wow, there’s a been a few candidates for that title in the last few months!

    Just noticed there is a definite leaning towards the 90s in the final songs here. Half of the top ten seems quite a significant number.

    Were there any dominant decades in the other rates, for numbers 1 to 6?

    White Lines is easily my favourite song out so far. A real hip hop classic and brings back so many memories of my school days.

    At the time there was a rumour that a massive proportion of its sales, certainly early on, were from up here in the north of the country on 12 inch as it was absolutely huge in the clubs. Then it later caught on across the whole country, hence the record breaking slow climb to the top 20 and the relatively huge sales for a number 7 single.

    So glad it made the final, thanks guys!

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